05-15-2015 09:31 PM
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  1. maverick786us's Avatar
    According to this article

    Windows 10 desktop version will launch before Windows 10 for Phones

    WP 10 for mobiles will be not be released this summer. It will be released after windows 10 desktop version. Just like the way it happened with 8.1. Usually MS releases its new OS in October.

    Does that mean that windows 10 for desktop will be released in October and the the mobile version along with flagship will be released on April next year?
    05-02-2015 02:21 AM
  2. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    It sounds like Windows 10 for phones will be available a few weeks after Windows 10 for desktop. Windows 10 desktop will come out before Phone in a staggered release cycle | Windows Central
    05-02-2015 02:24 AM
  3. maclancer's Avatar
    It will not be next year... I promised ;)
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    05-02-2015 02:27 AM
  4. DCTF's Avatar
    I don't think you read this carefully enough!

    That means that while the PC version of Windows 10 will be released this summer, Windows 10 for Phone might not see the light of day until the fall. And Lumia devices that launch with Windows 10 for Phone out of the box won't be available until later this year.
    If the financial report given by AMD's CEO is correct (and given the source, it ought to be), Windows 10 for desktops is set for release at the end of July.

    All we know from Belfiore is that Windows Phone will come a bit later. The expectation is that it will be pretty soon after. We've seen images of some radically different-looking test builds set to arrive soon, so let's hope the appearance is matched by under-the-hood improvements too.

    The launch of Windows Phones is nothing more than a sensible guess. It would make sense if MS used the official launch of Windows 10 for Phones to launch new hardware too, so that each one can boost the other. Nobody really knows that for sure, though - they could just as easily mount a new push for the 930 and 830 as the greatest platforms for Win10, and follow with a true flagship later. A lot of the time we're getting angry about things that we feel like we were promised, but MS never pledged; we just read them so many times, they felt like cast iron.
    05-02-2015 04:42 AM
  5. hotphil's Avatar
    Well, let's combine all the speculation, guesses, "I'm sure"s and wild rumours into something completely fantasy-based:
    W10: Summer. The end of summer. People keep screaming "July", but that's crazy talk.
    W10 for Phones: Autumn (or Fall, if you must). But for US-only to maximise tankage/fail headlines during Black Friday/Holiday Season
    W10 for Phones​​: Spring 2016 for the general availability of any new own-brand hardware. If any exists. Who's to say MS don't go all Google-y and just farm out hardware manufacturing to someone else. Nokia maybe.
    ven07 and xandros9 like this.
    05-02-2015 05:10 AM
  6. DCTF's Avatar
    Nokia's denying it's even got a phone-manufacturing business anymore, and it's hard to see how it would benefit them to lie. Maybe they've got some R&D, but I doubt they're ready for making phones, let alone Windows phones.

    The notion of an end of July Win10 release is actually the best-supported rumour we have. Unless MS overruns this date for other reasons, there's no reason to suppose the CEO reading a carefully prepared report would make a mistake on the fly: AMD may have revealed Windows 10 launch date in earnings call - Industry - News - HEXUS.net
    ven07, Loco5150, aximtreo and 1 others like this.
    05-02-2015 05:21 AM
  7. DoctorSaline's Avatar
    In my opinion, windows for PCs will RTM sometime this July/August while Windows Phone flagship may be announced in IFA Germany or a dedicated event sometime in September/October so, here is to hoping that we will have our hands on a Windows 10 flagship phone until November max.
    aximtreo, ven07 and Laura Knotek like this.
    05-02-2015 05:27 AM
  8. Ma Rio's Avatar
    I don't think it will be next year.
    They said only that Win10 for Mobile will come after Win10 for PCs. So if Win10 for PCs coms in July or whatever they've said. I expect Win10 for Mobile to be released around the holiday season, along with a few devices that run it out of the box.
    05-02-2015 04:47 PM
  9. ShinraCorp's Avatar
    I say around by November to get that holiday marketing up in time as well :P
    05-02-2015 09:48 PM
  10. todd7900's Avatar
    As I've posted elsewhere, from a marketing perspective a staggered release makes sense. A summer release for the desktop/tablet in order to take advantage of the back to school sales. A fall/early winter release for the phone with new hardware for the holiday sales. MS has shown an ability to keep new hardware secret until they are good and ready to let it out, Hololens, Band, 640, Surface 3 are just a few recent examples, so I'm just not panicking about the lack of rumored new flagships.
    ven07, aximtreo and Laura Knotek like this.
    05-02-2015 10:17 PM
  11. Giddora's Avatar
    According to this article

    Windows 10 desktop version will launch before Windows 10 for Phones

    WP 10 for mobiles will be not be released this summer. It will be released after windows 10 desktop version. Just like the way it happened with 8.1. Usually MS releases its new OS in October.

    Does that mean that windows 10 for desktop will be released in October and the the mobile version along with flagship will be released on April next year?
    Why does "after october" mean April 2016 for you?
    05-03-2015 02:41 AM
  12. Brian McMahon's Avatar
    What will be will be. It's been just over a year since Satya took over the reigns at MS and in that time the company has changed direction dramatically. There are huge challenges ahead and it shows but the release dates to me don't matter, what will matter when they are shown is the specs of the handsets and only then will we know what MS has planned.

    Android development is lightning fast at the moment and MS needs to show it's teeth with some real good handsets but i'd rather have to wait than have something pushed out that may have a detrimental effect on the platforms development. We need to focus on hard concrete facts when they are given to us rather than speculation by hacks looking for click bait.
    05-03-2015 03:40 AM
  13. Greywolf1967's Avatar
    On Windows Weekly this week (Friday, the all Alcohol Edition), both the Big Guy here Dan R. and Mary Jo said staggered release.
    End of July for Windows 10 PC, and about 6 weeks behind will be or Phone.

    Now also please remember Microsoft will pop the top on Windows 10 for Phone and send to the carriers, like all updates it is then into the hands of the oh so wonderful Tech Monkey's of your branded carrier. The same wonderful people who looked after the Cyan and Denim updates with the speed of a snail...........

    Good news is there will be a way to use the developer preview to have a stable/running full version, and the rumor is there may be 2 new Rings added ( I think that' what they are called), So you will be able to pick Slow Ring, Fast Ring, Stable Ring, and Daily Ring.

    The last two I think are already used by Cyanogen Mod for Android updates of custom Roms
    Laura Knotek and ven07 like this.
    05-03-2015 03:48 AM
  14. hotphil's Avatar
    What will be will be. It's been just over a year since Satya took over the reigns at MS and in that time the company has changed direction dramatically. There are huge challenges ahead and it shows but the release dates to me don't matter, what will matter when they are shown is the specs of the handsets and only then will we know what MS has planned.

    Android development is lightning fast at the moment and MS needs to show it's teeth with some real good handsets but i'd rather have to wait than have something pushed out that may have a detrimental effect on the platforms development. We need to focus on hard concrete facts when they are given to us rather than speculation by hacks looking for click bait.
    well it's easy enough to avoid carrier-induced delays and their loathsome bloatware.
    Just buy your own handset.
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    05-03-2015 03:51 AM
  15. hotphil's Avatar
    Why does "after october" mean April 2016 for you?
    My guess would be he's not in the US. And MS will do their usual staggered roll out.
    05-03-2015 03:53 AM
  16. Brian McMahon's Avatar
    well it's easy enough to avoid carrier-induced delays and their loathsome bloatware.
    Just buy your own handset.
    Exactly and given the MS strategy at the minute of bringing handsets to the man on the streets budget which matters the most this method of purchase is getting easier and easier. Sure i want a top notch phone but for kids or people on a budget that choice matters the most. Considering price for price comparisons of windows phones to similar Android phones i think the quality shows in windows favour at the moment. Whole life costs matter and some people don't want the expensive contracts to be tied down with.
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    05-03-2015 03:59 AM
  17. psudotechzealot's Avatar
    It is bad idea to release their phones in the fall, IMO.
    05-03-2015 06:52 AM
  18. grantpwarren's Avatar
    It is bad idea to release their phones in the fall, IMO.
    Black Friday and Christmas? Not so much a bad idea..
    ven07 and Laura Knotek like this.
    05-03-2015 06:59 AM
  19. WanderingTraveler's Avatar
    It is bad idea to release their phones in the fall, IMO.
    It's not a bad idea if they can avoid stock issues as well as having it release by end-October.
    gpobernardo and ven07 like this.
    05-03-2015 07:03 AM
  20. hotphil's Avatar
    Problem is, every analyst report you can get your hands on is quite clear on the state of market saturation in the US.
    Add in Apple's annual offering ​at that time of year and you have to wonder why they bother with it.
    If they're in the game to increase market share, then US Autumn is the wrong time. In the wrong place.
    If they're trying to clean up the low-end market, US Autumn is the wrong time. In the wrong place.
    If it's about creating hype and a halo-effect device, US Autumn is the wrong time. In the wrong place.
    Without knowing what the strategy (if any!) MS has around an OS for phone hardware, it's hard to know which game they're going to suck hardest at.
    05-03-2015 07:11 AM
  21. paulxxwall's Avatar
    Many are ready for upgrades or need upgrades but with consumers like me on att....there's only 2 phones to choose from, a budget phone and a mid level that's it! Apple at least has 2 high end! And androids are every where all shapes and sizes. Unfortunately for me my phones broke and don't know to buy now when flagships are on the horizon but they've been much needed for while now.
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    05-03-2015 07:50 AM
  22. heickelrrx's Avatar
    Many are ready for upgrades or need upgrades but with consumers like me on att....there's only 2 phones to choose from, a budget phone and a mid level that's it! Apple at least has 2 high end! And androids are every where all shapes and sizes. Unfortunately for me my phones broke and don't know to buy now when flagships are on the horizon but they've been much needed for while now.
    Just get the low end one.

    Luckily Lumia devices didn't suffered great amount of performance gap between high and low end devices
    05-03-2015 08:01 AM
  23. DCTF's Avatar
    Problem is, every analyst report you can get your hands on is quite clear on the state of market saturation in the US.
    Add in Apple's annual offering ​at that time of year and you have to wonder why they bother with it.
    If they're in the game to increase market share, then US Autumn is the wrong time. In the wrong place.
    If they're trying to clean up the low-end market, US Autumn is the wrong time. In the wrong place.
    If it's about creating hype and a halo-effect device, US Autumn is the wrong time. In the wrong place.
    Without knowing what the strategy (if any!) MS has around an OS for phone hardware, it's hard to know which game they're going to suck hardest at.
    I don't know how it works for this market, but I do know the music industry and the music industry always loved autumn. It's less the case now that people's spending habits have changed and they're less likely to buy physical media, but traditionally Sept/Oct was the time when labels were most keen to put out important records. The games industry still loves that period. People's summers are over, students are spending their newly-acquired debt, Christmas is coming to pick up the tail on whatever's been of interest in the previous few months, and anybody looking to buy a gift for themselves had better get that done before Christmas too.

    Do they have anything to lose by going up against the iPhone? There's no question of beating it, so there's no shame in "losing" a fight that never really happened. It's not as if people forget about the iPhone the rest of the year; it's always there looming over the market, so you're always looking for the customer who doesn't want the iPhone to notice you instead of Android. WP has the advantage that it looks like a family of handsets with a few extremely similar relatives, whereas the Androids have greater variety but suffer slightly from being so disparate. As a Windows Phone customer, wouldn't it be quite an attractive proposition to have a new flagship WP in your pocket at the same time that every iPhone user is proudly showing off their phone?
    05-03-2015 08:13 AM
  24. maverick786us's Avatar
    Why does "after october" mean April 2016 for you?
    Because it happened with WINDOWS 8.1. The desktop OS was released in October and the mobile OS was released next year in April. I suspected, that they might do the same with Windows 10 too
    05-03-2015 11:01 AM
  25. Greywolf1967's Avatar
    Because it happened with WINDOWS 8.1. The desktop OS was released in October and the mobile OS was released next year in April. I suspected, that they might do the same with Windows 10 too
    Your fear was debunked already.....look up......OS End of July (This Year), Mobile about 6 weeks after.

    So no The may not do that again.
    05-03-2015 12:43 PM
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