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  1. Panathas's Avatar
    Why we need new hardware for face recognition? I understand the iris part, but from what I read there will be face recognition also. So why new hardware for that? My Nexus4 did that some years ago with a crappy cam.
    06-01-2015 10:48 AM
  2. Jas00555's Avatar
    Because without special hardware, you could just hold a picture of a face and it would work. That's why you need special, new cameras.
    Laura Knotek, jfa1 and colinkiama like this.
    06-01-2015 10:55 AM
  3. Guzzler3's Avatar
    If I remember reading somewhere, you need an infra red capable camera for the "Hello" feature to work, that way it can tell there's a real person in front.
    Harrie-S and xandros9 like this.
    06-01-2015 01:21 PM
  4. Panathas's Avatar
    For 99% of people a normal cam would be sufficient. If someone steals your phone he will not have a photo of you, would he?
    06-01-2015 03:39 PM
  5. Harrie-S's Avatar
    For 99% of people a normal cam would be sufficient. If someone steals your phone he will not have a photo of you, would he?
    Security is a serious business and if you do not (want to) understand that we can not help.
    06-01-2015 03:53 PM
  6. Panathas's Avatar
    You can let the people with old hardware chose to use face detection, that isn't very secure and people with new hardware secure face detection. If you do not want to understand that we can not help.
    06-01-2015 11:32 PM
  7. hotphil's Avatar
    A normal camera isn't going to be able to determine a unique iris with suitable accuracy. Maybe there's some extra hardware bits too such as secure storage for encryption keys.
    06-01-2015 11:50 PM
  8. slyronit's Avatar
    Facial recognition using a normal camera is a joke. A good gimmick, but far from secure.
    Harrie-S and a5cent like this.
    06-02-2015 12:26 AM
  9. a5cent's Avatar
    You can let the people with old hardware chose to use face detection, that isn't very secure.
    Do that and within days you'll have a ton of blogs and a million consumers screaming\laughing over how unprofessional and insecure the newest Windows security features are.

    With your proposal, the majority of WP owners would be given a false sense of security. Providing no security at all would then actually be the better option. At least consumers would then realize that they are unprotected and adapt their behavior.

    Considering a simple PIN is a lot more secure than a poorly implemented facial recognition system, there is no reason to go half way. The PIN is what those people without the necessary hardware should use.

    By treating facial recognition as a serious feature, rather than a toy-feature on a marketing checklist (what you had on Android), MS is actually protecting your interests.
    Last edited by a5cent; 06-02-2015 at 02:32 AM.
    06-02-2015 01:18 AM
  10. raphok's Avatar
    yes, new camera (2 cameras + infrared)
    06-02-2015 02:33 PM

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