View Poll Results: Is using Hamburger Menu counter one handed use for you?

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    23 60.53%
  • Disagree

    15 39.47%
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  1. Snowy Nokia's Avatar
    Is it called hamburger our new menu system? I personally do not care for the technicalities anymore, fed up with changes in so called "metro".

    To my point (finally jumped to windows mobile 10, build 10149) an noticed how difficult, unintuitive, and cumbersome it is for one handed orientation! Sucks balls, literally....

    What's the community's feedback!?

    Ps. I have an alternative idea to be able to keep our new "menu" layout solution to share with the community, but first let's get some feedback on the first topic.
    Thx
    Last edited by Snowy Nokia; 07-06-2015 at 05:37 AM.
    07-06-2015 04:06 AM
  2. buddy007's Avatar
    I don't like it too, but it seems according to Microsoft research "most people don't use their phones single handedly" and hence that's their defence on hamburger menu, I gave countless feedback but they are not gonna budge on it as they want consistent look with respect to desktop. The cheap compensation they have for it is the reachability feature on phones 5 inches and above.
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    07-06-2015 04:09 AM
  3. Snowy Nokia's Avatar
    Ha! Felt something along those lines an knew I would get a mention of their cheap reachability lol. Thx dude.

    By the way, our old way for menu "...." Is it called pivot?
    07-06-2015 04:14 AM
  4. heickelrrx's Avatar
    Is it called hamburger our new menu system? I personally do not care for the technicalities anymore, fed up with changes in so called "metro".

    To my point (finally jumped to windows mobile 10, build 10149) an noticed how difficult, unintuitive, and cumbersome it is for one handed orientation! Sucks balls, literally....

    What's the community's feedback!?

    Ps. I have an alternative an be able to keep our new "menu" layout solution to share with the community, but first let's get some feedback on the first topic.
    Thx
    Depend actually. If it just unlock,make call I can do it with one hand I can do it easily.

    But changing setting browse file ect may not easy but when I did it my hand both free
    07-06-2015 04:18 AM
  5. TheFunMachine's Avatar
    Ha! Felt something along those lines an knew I would get a mention of their cheap reachability lol. Thx dude.

    By the way, our old way for menu "...." Is it called pivot?
    "..." is called ellipsis, pivoting is how you could swipe left or right to go between different sections of an app. (For example, swiping between now playing, recently played, xbox music store, etc in the Xbox Music app on WP8.1) You can pivot in W10 in a few apps, like Alarms & Clock, but it's inconsistent and most apps don't use it. I don't care much for the hamburger menu either, especially as they still seem to be using the app bar, which I thought was what the hamburgers were replacing. W10 isn't too bad though once you get used to it, but one handed use certainly sucks.
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    07-06-2015 04:30 AM
  6. Snowy Nokia's Avatar
    "..." is called ellipsis, pivoting is how you could swipe left or right to go between different sections of an app.
    Appreciate the clarification very much!

    I do not have an issue with hamburger myself either, just how its being applied( which i hope they do not add swiping gesture to it)
    07-06-2015 05:35 AM
  7. Pete's Avatar
    I think the poll here is assuming that everyone who answers uses their device with one hand.

    I don't. I typically hold my device in one hand and poke it with the other.
    Jazmac, Skamath, N_LaRUE and 1 others like this.
    07-06-2015 05:39 AM
  8. kokola's Avatar
    Use two hands
    07-06-2015 06:17 AM
  9. Snowy Nokia's Avatar
    Use two hands
    Lame...
    Go use a tablet/PC
    nohra likes this.
    07-06-2015 06:20 AM
  10. ArrowQueen's Avatar
    I use my phone (L925) with one hand a lot (depending on the situation). I'm not ok with hamburger menu. Why did they put it on the left ? They should have put it on the right with the ability to swipe and it would have been great for one or two hands usage. They said they put it on the left because people are more used to find it there. I don't think its a good excuse.
    07-06-2015 06:29 AM
  11. Snowy Nokia's Avatar
    @ArrowQueen, thanks for the feedback. I'm also on the Lumia 925.
    Swipe is what has been requested allot, though I'm personally not for it.
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    07-06-2015 06:37 AM
  12. Pete's Avatar
    Lame...
    Go use a tablet/PC
    You can't call people lame for using their device differently to the way you want them to. Accepting alternative views is always an important part of any information gathering exercise.
    Skamath, N_LaRUE and rhapdog like this.
    07-06-2015 07:12 AM
  13. Kevin Rush's Avatar
    I think the poll here is assuming that everyone who answers uses their device with one hand.

    I don't. I typically hold my device in one hand and poke it with the other.
    I prefer one handed use. Designing the phone with one handed use in mind, does nothing to make two handed use more difficult. Thus, why isn't the obvious"goal" to make it so it is good for everyone? Actually, I would also add an option to mirror the one handed aspects for left handed people. Wouldn't that be a distinguishing feature?

    Also, I like ellipses, panoramas/pivots and do not like the hamburger with it's left sliding drawer. Maybe left handed people like the left side hamburger and drawer?
    07-06-2015 07:44 AM
  14. heickelrrx's Avatar
    You can't call people lame for using their device differently to the way you want them to. Accepting alternative views is always an important part of any information gathering exercise.
    Sometimes I use even nose
    07-06-2015 10:19 AM
  15. Snowy Nokia's Avatar
    Sometimes I use even nose
    I really wanna lol to that one...but I'll try an stay to the topic, Ha somehow...
    But overall, good one.
    07-06-2015 10:50 AM
  16. Snowy Nokia's Avatar
    You can't call people lame for using their device differently to the way you want them to. Accepting alternative views is always an important part of any information gathering exercise.
    @Pete, I'll agree with you for argument sake.
    07-06-2015 10:52 AM
  17. heickelrrx's Avatar
    I really wanna lol to that one...but I'll try an stay to the topic, Ha somehow...
    But overall, good one.
    I'm serious. It happend when my hand really full and turn on loudspeaker to answer call.

    I recall that they have one hand operation mode. What do you think of it?
    07-06-2015 10:58 AM
  18. tgp's Avatar
    Sometimes I use even nose
    Hey, that's what handkerchiefs are for!

    About the hamburger menu, I think that the problem is WP's implementation of it more than the hamburger itself. You should not have to tap on it. It should slide open. I use it on WP, iOS, and Android. Most Android and iOS versions of it have the sliding feature, but I've not yet seen it on any WP app.
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    07-06-2015 11:00 AM
  19. Snowy Nokia's Avatar
    I prefer one handed use. Designing the phone with one handed use in mind, does nothing to make two handed use more difficult. Thus, why isn't the obvious"goal" to make it so it is good for everyone? Actually, I would also add an option to mirror the one handed aspects for left handed people. Wouldn't that be a distinguishing feature?

    Also, I like ellipses, panoramas/pivots and do not like the hamburger with it's left sliding drawer. Maybe left handed people like the left side hamburger and drawer?
    Definitely on the same page as you, though it seems Microsoft will not budge on this case...
    Let's look for a workaround.
    Left handed case I'm totally looking at for those users. Many comments actually have been that the ellipsis now is not convenient in thier use case, example no longer swiping up gesture brings the app bar.
    As you mention the love use of pivot, sad to somewhat go an somewhat still their so far, which is one of my reasons I strongly disagree for swiping add on for hamburger menu, too annoying!
    07-06-2015 11:02 AM
  20. Snowy Nokia's Avatar
    Hey, that's what handkerchiefs are for!

    About the hamburger menu, I think that the problem is WP's implementation of it more than the hamburger itself. You should not have to tap on it. It should slide open. I use it on WP, iOS, and Android. Most Android and iOS versions of it have the sliding feature, but I've not yet seen it on any WP app.
    Yes! Exactly correct about it's implementations!
    07-06-2015 11:06 AM
  21. Snowy Nokia's Avatar
    I recall that they have one hand operation mode. What do you think of it?
    Please tell me where!?
    07-06-2015 11:11 AM
  22. mary beth hale's Avatar
    Please tell me where!?
    Press and hold Windows button. I think only works on 5" or more screens. Works on my 930
    07-06-2015 11:34 AM
  23. Krystianpants's Avatar
    You know what. I have the lumia 830 and I can't use it with one hand regardless of the hamburger menu. I have a short thumb apparently. I can't even reach the back button. In the world of large screens I don't think anyone uses phones with one hand. Sometimes if i'm shopping I'll open up my grocery list with one hand and so on. But full usage? I think it's best you can't use it with one hand because it will just end up with more people driving while using their phone.

    I think the hamburger menu is way more intuitive. This is why it has gotten popular. It's almost become the "standard" and it makes sense. So now moving to Windows phone will be easier because where do people look for settings? Hamburger menu! I actually never liked the ellipses, it's not intuitive to the general public. And it's not like it really helps that much. I have apps where I hit the ellipses but then it opens a small menu where I still have to reach my thumb to press one of the settings. And my thumb can't reach it!

    Little thumbers everywhere rebel!
    07-06-2015 11:42 AM
  24. Snowy Nokia's Avatar
    a short thumb apparently.

    Little thumbers everywhere rebel!
    👌
    07-06-2015 11:48 AM
  25. heickelrrx's Avatar
    I think I have a great idea.
    I'll make a tumb extender so ppl who had short tumb, using 1520, and can't get used to hamburger menu can use it single handed.

    Personally new UI feels nice. It kind of little pain to scroll down the whole setting to grab one setting. New UI group it and really helps
    07-06-2015 11:52 AM
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