07-16-2015 01:19 AM
141 1234 ...
tools
  1. Raymond Lavertue's Avatar
    What I understand is that Microsoft is going to focus on releasing six mobile phones a year for two years, cutting back the array of Lumias on the market. This will make every release an event. After all how many phones does Apple release per year? After two years they will asseess. By then Windows 10 Mobile will have been a catalyst to other manufacturers. I predict Microsoft will contunue to release a small number of their own phones yearly, while OEM manufacturing continues to take off.
    RumoredNow likes this.
    07-09-2015 05:23 AM
  2. TechFreak1's Avatar
    How on earth can this be genius? It is fatal!
    Unless Microsoft secretly know that Samsung and HTC or Sony are going to make top notch windows 10 phones that don't suck compared to their Android counterparts. Or unless Microsoft does a big event very soon to announce a flagship that blows the whole world away but I doubt that very much. It will have cute features like Hello and Continuum but the majority won't care. And even then, the timing could have been better and well explained. They should look at Apple how they communicate and do marketing.
    In every other situation it is anything but genius and it damages the trust in the platform.
    Windows 10 for Phones brings a lot more than that however whether they are implemented in a phone at all is another matter entirely.

    Like I said, time will tell.
    07-09-2015 05:25 AM
  3. Pete's Avatar
    I understood they were gonna make less of them (for the next two years) THEN stop.
    "At least the next two years", isn't the same as "At most, the next two years"
    RumoredNow, a5cent and FinancialP like this.
    07-09-2015 05:27 AM
  4. batuhanbkeskin's Avatar
    I hope they really focus on software side and make better mobile OS. I think the market is overdominated with lumias. We don't need more lumias, we need more official apps.
    07-09-2015 05:45 AM
  5. Clive Rennie's Avatar
    I think Microsoft is right to do what they are doing 3 segments of the market = Continuum why do you need all the other phones whe you can have 2 or 3 that will work as a phone or a pc plug in your a pc unplug your a phone that's all you need. I'm not giving up on MS. have faith all lets not do the doom and gloom technology is changing and I'm willing to give MS the benefit.
    07-09-2015 06:41 AM
  6. vodda's Avatar
    I hope they make a lumia 620 successor. I am fed up with giant phones and want a small, but sturdy phone.

    L620 with a CC 3061 (water spill) case was a clear winner for me as I use it for sport ativities where I dont have to be careful not to drop a phone or spill water over it.

    Id also like to see "hey cortana" enabled on all WP phones.
    920Walker and Mogamy Cool like this.
    07-09-2015 07:01 AM
  7. iamakii's Avatar
    This news doesn't really help the outlook of people for WP. I agree with the OP.
    Mogamy Cool likes this.
    07-09-2015 07:09 AM
  8. BonzeUK's Avatar
    I follow 40 of the biggest tech sites and they all say it is dead or nearly dead.
    Do you have links to relevant articles on these 40 sites?
    07-09-2015 07:29 AM
  9. paulxxwall's Avatar
    Just saw CBS news this morning reported on the ms mobile debacle . I think once CBS or any other media is reporting on it ....its either really good or really bad .....for ms its bad:(
    920Walker likes this.
    07-09-2015 07:29 AM
  10. Paolo Ferrazza's Avatar
    It's all about the apps, if they'll develop apps for W10 then market share will grow and OEMs will get on board, it is as simple as that.

    All my friends love my L930 and the OS design, many ask me if they should switch, I'm just asking them what apps are they using and all of them would be usually missing one or two apps on windows store (or they would have limited functionalities) so I'm telling them to wait a bit more. This is to say that outside the US people are bored of android and iphone and they wold gladly embrace something new.

    This is a bet that can be won in 2 years, and if it is lost then it won't be won in 4 years either...
    07-09-2015 07:31 AM
  11. ohgood's Avatar
    WOW what a terrible message! Who the **** will make apps when they know Windows mobile will be dead in two years? Great message Microsoft. You are ******* dumb!!!!! And the timing. All these layoffs right before the release of Windows 10 and flagships. Those guys ay Microsoft have their brains in their ***! Do they wanna die badly??? Windows is doomed with every single tech site out there claiming windows mobile is dead. Long term this will mean windows as a whole will die. Mobile is essential. Which OEM will makes windows mobiles???? So far I can name almost NONE. Who made any device with the Microsoft health kit? NOBODY. Microsoft is acting in ways that are beyond stupidity. Giving such bad messages and still expecting Windows mobile 10 to to hit off? Are they smoking mushrooms? Who will make apps when the future is said to be unsure after 2 years???? I repeat: NOBODY. Nadella is the biggest fail ever with no patience.

    Two years are over in a heart beat and nothing will have changed. Thus Windows mobile is dead.
    To answer your question, very, very few developers are investing in windows phone. We already know this, unfortunately. This is bad for ALL platforms though, as android and ios can continue the daily grind, without worry of loosing 25% of their markets by a third place competitor. It simply isn't going to happen. There will be no innovate fires lit under them, and they can relax. This is bad for ALL of us, not just windows users.


    I wouldn't pin this on balmer, nadelia, or anyone in the developmental stack. This is a _too_late_to_market_ problem, that never cured itself. Sometimes companies relax (as google and apple can now) with their marketshares (like microsoft did with office and it's desktop OS's five years ago) and think the next 'big' thing isn't much to worry about. They are wrong, and pay a hefty cost.

    More importantly, the overall gist of the FAN websites like wpcentral are CHOCK FULL of arguing and doom/gloom posts, INSTEAD OF POSITIVE DEVELOPMENTS. This is a telling sign for what is really going to happen in the future. No matter how positive and upbeat a spin the moderators and link-grabbers put on the situation, the developers can see straight through the spin, and credibility is hurt in the process.


    One more time, I'd love to see a real third place COMPETITOR to prevent ios and google from resting. I don't care if it's symbian, ms, nokia, jola, sailfish, linux, bsd, or whatever running under the screen. I don't care where it comes from. China is fine. Just something to keep a fire burning under ios and android. Right now, there is nothing.
    07-09-2015 07:42 AM
  12. Indistinguishable's Avatar
    ...I'm extremely septic now.
    You should really get that checked out...
    07-09-2015 07:46 AM
  13. Ejwan2's Avatar
    Its not just the hardware. Who is going to write apps for a product line that has no long term commitment from its manufacturer? Microsoft thought it was tough getting developers before, wait to see what happens now.
    07-09-2015 07:48 AM
  14. ric2001's Avatar
    I also have to agree with the OP on this. I've been reading a lot of these tech sites and it doesn't sound good. Even though they have announced they'll be making fewer phones for the next 2 years, it's not a big headline and they need to refute others' claims that they are throwing in the towel. Why even announce "2 years"? What does that do to the developers that are thinking of creating apps for WP?

    Microsoft's messaging needs to be stronger. I used to see ads on TV but not anymore. Makes me wonder if Nadella is purposefully trying to slowly get out of it (without seeming to do so).

    I've had a 920 since Dec '12 and have been patiently waiting for a flagship. I was at the mall with family this past weekend and walked by an AT&T store. I decided to go in and must say the S6 Active was very tempting. I'm willing to wait out the rest of the year. I think this is part of the strategy, to cut back on phones so they can release them sooner and not have people like me wait for what seems like forever...
    07-09-2015 08:08 AM
  15. Jas Holden's Avatar
    OK, here's the deal. Windows 10 is going to be popular. Windows 10 Mobile phones will be popular with businesses who are going with Win10. Continuum will help with that.

    Do you really think that The Boss at the Company cares whether you have the latest hot games, entertainment and social media apps? Here's a hint, he doesn't. He hopes that you don't have any.

    I won't happen overnight, but businesses that up grade will make or break Win10 and Win10 mobile within the 2 year time frame.
    RumoredNow likes this.
    07-09-2015 08:19 AM
  16. vodda's Avatar
    Also remember guys, there is no such thing as a negative publicity, so making such a big noise about "m$ canceling WP" is actually doing it good.
    07-09-2015 08:20 AM
  17. Blacklac's Avatar
    Microsoft has never said they will cease to make phones in 2 years. The comment about two years was made to quiet people who incorrectly assumed Microsoft was leaving the mobile hardware arena simply because they said they were downsizing products.

    Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
    07-09-2015 08:32 AM
  18. Blacklac's Avatar
    Also remember guys, there is no such thing as a negative publicity, so making such a big noise about "m$ canceling WP" is actually doing it good.
    Lol... There is such a thing as bad publicity. I'm not saying this is it, but there definitely is.

    Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
    Jas Holden likes this.
    07-09-2015 08:33 AM
  19. Jas Holden's Avatar
    I think that Donald Trump and Bill Cosby are finding that out.
    FinancialP likes this.
    07-09-2015 08:40 AM
  20. JamesDax's Avatar
    How is this thread still open?
    RumoredNow likes this.
    07-09-2015 08:50 AM
  21. tangledW's Avatar
    I also have to agree with the OP on this. I've been reading a lot of these tech sites and it doesn't sound good. Even though they have announced they'll be making fewer phones for the next 2 years, it's not a big headline and they need to refute others' claims that they are throwing in the towel. Why even announce "2 years"? What does that do to the developers that are thinking of creating apps for WP?

    Microsoft's messaging needs to be stronger. I used to see ads on TV but not anymore. Makes me wonder if Nadella is purposefully trying to slowly get out of it (without seeming to do so).

    I've had a 920 since Dec '12 and have been patiently waiting for a flagship. I was at the mall with family this past weekend and walked by an AT&T store. I decided to go in and must say the S6 Active was very tempting. I'm willing to wait out the rest of the year. I think this is part of the strategy, to cut back on phones so they can release them sooner and not have people like me wait for what seems like forever...
    They said AT LEAST 2 years. With development time for hardware, I'd imagine this means that they have hardware in the works or planned that may not be out for another 2 years, then they'll see after that.

    Which means there is no need to jump ship just yet.
    RumoredNow likes this.
    07-09-2015 08:56 AM
  22. PepperdotNet's Avatar
    It seems that any news from Microsoft, whether good or bad, automatically triggers the Prophets of Doom to announce the death of Windows as a mobile platform.

    What the situation was yesterday:
    • Countless Lumia models in the marketplace, only the ardent FanBoi has any chance of keeping up with what model has what specs and abilities.
    • No perceivable structure or marketing to speak of.
    • No idea what Microsoft's future plans may be, there was plenty of speculation that they might kill the platform tomorrow for all we know.

    What the situation is today:
    • There will be fewer, better defined and obvious-what-they-are models to choose from.
    • They will be using the same methodology that has proved to be successful for Surface. I expect that means fewer models, better quality, and a lot more advertising.
    • Microsoft will be making hardware for at least two more years. This is two more years than we knew of yesterday.

    And yet, the "journalists" of the click-bait media take this as CONCRETE PROOF that Microsoft has given up and is killing Windows mobile. Mainstream media who know nothing at all about technology just parrot what they read on the click-bait.

    I just don't get how you can make such a dire conclusion, without having a very big preconceived idea of what you want to hear and ignoring what was actually said.

    I do not listen to "news" about celebrities, politics or technology because 99% of the time what they are calling news is nothing more than uninformed opinion and bluster.
    07-09-2015 09:01 AM
  23. OwenDL's Avatar
    Just because a bunch of anti-MS tech news sites say it's dead doesn't mean it's dead.

    Why are you all letting other people think for you?
    EMINENT 1 and StevoPhilo like this.
    07-09-2015 09:11 AM
  24. vodda's Avatar
    I just wonder, how this affects other m$ products, like the band? Im reading apple clock is moping the floor with sales, are microsoft band sales any better than their phones?
    07-09-2015 09:21 AM
  25. theefman's Avatar
    Pro tip - if WP handsets were wiped off the face of the earth today, Microsoft would still be in mobile..... on ios and android with all their software. After all, when they were porting office and their other apps the party line was 'they are a software company, they need to be everywhere". So now they are, and with the pitiful numbers of WP devices sold, losing that hardware base will hardly make a difference. The 2 years mentioned gives them even more time to solidify their presence and by that time they can kiss WP goodbye without a care in the world if the situation doesn't improve.

    Windows 10? It'll survive, consumers might be switching to mobile but enterprises will always need Windows. Universal apps? They were always a gamble and Windows will carry on without them no problem. The biggest thing to consider though is if Microsoft has embraced the competition in ios and android with their apps and services, why are WP fans still fighting this lost cause? The time has come to enjoy what you have for the remaining time you (might still) have it and move on when the time comes because at the end of the day, what matters is how best these devices serve our needs, and not how much we serve or are "loyal" to the companies behind them.
    Laura Knotek, pericle, tgp and 2 others like this.
    07-09-2015 09:31 AM
141 1234 ...

Similar Threads

  1. Kill 'em. Kill 'em With FIRE!!!
    By RumoredNow in forum Microsoft News & Rumors
    Replies: 183
    Last Post: 07-23-2015, 02:39 PM
  2. Replies: 1
    Last Post: 07-21-2015, 06:00 PM
  3. Replies: 2
    Last Post: 07-08-2015, 10:54 PM
  4. Anyone have a BLU WIN HD LTE with Tempo Wireless?
    By Windows Central Question in forum BLU Win HD LTE
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 07-08-2015, 09:30 PM
  5. Bloomberg Microsoft 'expects to make its own phones for at least the next two years'
    By WindowsCentral.com in forum Windows Central News Discussion
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 07-08-2015, 08:12 PM
LINK TO POST COPIED TO CLIPBOARD