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  1. Ganesh Venkat's Avatar
    It is safe to use this build as a daily driver if not for the endless start screen loading bug.
    Solution: Just go to the startscreen settings and switch off the show more tiles toggle. That's it and this build is safe for everyday use.
    07-11-2015 06:23 AM
  2. sweeperdk's Avatar
    It is safe to use this build as a daily driver if not for the endless start screen loading bug.
    Solution: Just go to the startscreen settings and switch off the show more tiles toggle. That's it and this build is safe for everyday use.
    Define "Safe for everyday use".

    People are experiencing some apps not working. Does this still mean "safe for everyday use"? For some, yes. For others, no.
    07-11-2015 06:24 AM
  3. Praxius1's Avatar
    Odd I have no loading screen issues, in fact I haven't seen a loading screen anywhere. Results vary of course but I also use an unlocked 930 and dev features for sideloading turned on, if that makes any difference.
    07-11-2015 06:41 AM
  4. Charles Brown8's Avatar
    So far it's been great for me on my icon. I updated from 149 yesterday evening and just let the phone sit overnight while I slept. Woke up and soft reset. Battery drain that was in 149 is way better. Have had no problem with apps so far as a matter a fact in 149 I was having problems updating some apps including here maps and drive. All updated in 166 with no problems. It's a keeper for me at this point. I am pleasantly surprised.
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    07-11-2015 06:46 AM
  5. sweeperdk's Avatar
    Only current issue is that the People live tile is showing empty circles. None of my contact images appear.
    07-11-2015 06:47 AM
  6. Teo Bartulovic's Avatar
    Solution: Just go to the startscreen settings and switch off the show more tiles toggle. That's it and this build is safe for everyday use.
    NO, it's always off on my phone and I still having problems with loading, even after hard reset and setting image to none, currently I'm testing it with radically reduced number of tiles on full screen wallpaper and 11% tile transparency, so far, so good....
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    07-11-2015 07:13 AM
  7. Teo Bartulovic's Avatar
    Only current issue is that the People live tile is showing empty circles. None of my contact images appear.
    I'm not getting even empty circles, just a blank tile...
    07-11-2015 07:14 AM
  8. Jazmac's Avatar
    I would say if your phone has the horses for it, this build has my endorsement. On my HTC M8, its tight as you want it to be to be and comfortable with on the road.

    Of course, its been with me on the road since the last build (10136) and it did 90 percent of what I use daily well. With this latest build however, this bad boy absolutely screams. And its very fast. If app developers want to make an impression of their work, they would do it here. It simply performs well and looks fantastic.

    But keep in mind, when I did the 10136 update, I rolled it back to 8.1. I did a hard reset to "Hello" and avoiding 8.1 settings and apps re-populating my phone. Installed 10136. Then, I installed my apps a few at a time until I had my basics on.

    I still maintain, 8.1 settings and WinXM don't work well together and it will take your phone a longer time to settle down with WinXM. And if after you update your phone is warm to the touch, its not ready to be used yet. The processor is working overtime to put things in place so its best to let it sit. When its cool, then its cool to use it but not before. Again, this is my experience for success and believe me, I've bumped around in the dark for weeks trying to make sense of this. So to answer the question, yes, its road ready and will only improve from here.
    07-11-2015 09:44 AM
  9. mhc48's Avatar
    Build 10166 is working fine on both my 635 and 930, definitely good enough for a daily driver. I couldn't say that for the two prior builds but this one is fine, except as said above, I do miss "Hey Cortana" on my 930.
    07-11-2015 02:21 PM
  10. Ivan05il's Avatar
    After 10 hours I still did not remove it which cannot be said about previous builds. If you perform hard reset and do not restore a backup you get a pretty good experience. I got one crash related to Pictures app so far and that's it. Just to add, I have L1520.
    07-11-2015 02:58 PM
  11. loribinca's Avatar
    I wouldn't do it - I'm rolling my 1520 back to 8.1 - pictures App is an excerise in how to take a perfectly good app and totally make it useless - whoever thought it was a good idea to get rid of folders and glob every single picture on the phone into one massive list is an *****

    also be aware that all the lumia photography apps are no longer in the store - and apps like zinio and proshot are not either - errr... why?

    so disappointing in the way WP is going ..
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    07-11-2015 03:14 PM
  12. Slovenix's Avatar
    I wouldn't do it - I'm rolling my 1520 back to 8.1 - pictures App is an excerise in how to take a perfectly good app and totally make it useless - whoever thought it was a good idea to get rid of folders and glob every single picture on the phone into one massive list is an *****

    also be aware that all the lumia photography apps are no longer in the store - and apps like zinio and proshot are not either - errr... why?

    so disappointing in the way WP is going ..
    I see those apps in the store.

    Anyways.. The pictures app, it was the best app in 8.1 I agree
    07-11-2015 04:03 PM
  13. Ivan05il's Avatar
    You will be able to switch to Albums view, it's just not working yet.
    07-11-2015 04:05 PM
  14. ML10's Avatar
    I think now the question is:

    Is a hard reset necessary??
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    07-11-2015 05:31 PM
  15. Skulls138's Avatar
    I think now the question is:

    Is a hard reset necessary??
    This. And battery life?
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    07-11-2015 05:54 PM
  16. 2uiam's Avatar
    You will be able to switch to Albums view, it's just not working yet.
    I can already switch to album view.
    07-11-2015 06:23 PM
  17. Praxius1's Avatar
    After 10 hours I still did not remove it which cannot be said about previous builds. If you perform hard reset and do not restore a backup you get a pretty good experience. I got one crash related to Pictures app so far and that's it. Just to add, I have L1520.
    What's interesting is I did the whole hard reset / recovery wipe process for my 930 for the last build and had to do everything all over from scratch three times before the last build finally installed and started to function properly. It was frustrating beyond belief

    With this build, I just did the normal update, let it restart and do it's thing with no hard reset / wipe or recovery. It's functioning just fine and fixed all the apps I had that were stuck with errors and / or updated all the apps that I purchased but installed as demos.

    This was the smoothest update by far.

    Then again, I could have simply been one of the lucky ones.
    07-11-2015 06:24 PM
  18. afgzee's Avatar
    Sorry I didn't read the entire thread in on my phone. I installed the latest win 10 on my test 735 and not impressed. Its losing its windows phone design that update 2 for 8.1 gives. WP 8.1 update 2 is amazing I love it, but is the latest win10 preview suitable for my 930 which is my main major phone after my htc one m8 (android)
    07-11-2015 06:29 PM
  19. Praxius1's Avatar
    I think now the question is:

    Is a hard reset necessary??
    Based on my experiences with my 930, No.

    Please note that this is based on my Unlocked 930 running the previous Fast Ring Build. I can't say what will happen if you are on slow ring or using an older build on a different phone... But I did not hard reset this time and everything works just fine. Oh and all my stuff is still here on my phone.

    As for Battery Life, it's not bad. It's better than it was in older builds and might even be better than the last build, but that's because you now have the ability in this build to access your background tasks/apps and switch a bunch of crap off..... This build even gave me a pop up on my Start Screen telling me I should switch off a few things to save battery.

    All the previous builds I would have described as Alpha Builds..... This is the first build I could describe as a Mid-Late Stage Beta.

    It's not complete or perfect, but it is pleasant to use daily on my primary phone and hardly any issues to speak of. If someone wanted to be introduced to W10M for the first time, this build would be it.

    Oh, a side note: Why do people say "Daily Driver" when referencing their Primary Mobile Phone? I don't drive my phone and it's more than a simple driver for a printer or video card. Just say Primary Phone....
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    07-11-2015 06:35 PM
  20. loribinca's Avatar
    I couldn't - plus when you use the photo browser - for example when you want to upload a picture via an app you get this asinine view of all the files - and they need to load again - and you can't just navigate to a folder - really Microsoft? really?

    plus the start screen bug makes this build pretty much a non-starter - how it ever made it out with that kind of BLOCKER bug is beyond me - i mean I get that it's a preview - but c'mon - this renders the phone useless
    07-11-2015 07:08 PM
  21. Praxius1's Avatar
    Well my wife put this on her 925 and with my 930, neither of us have this so called start screen bug. Lori I would say that bug isn't something everybody experiences, but a few do. I'm sure a hot fix will come soon
    07-12-2015 03:22 AM
  22. Ivan05il's Avatar
    Battery life is fine. In standby the phone is a room temperature, when you start doing something, yes I am talking about you, Candy Crush Saga, it warms up, but that's normal. It wasn't like that with the previous ones. It's still not on the same quality level as the 8.1 preview builds, but you can really use it daily and not be hindered by it.
    07-12-2015 03:31 AM
  23. jval88's Avatar
    I am using it as my daily driver (L625), quite surprised that it works just fine (given the fact that my phone is old) except for the battery life and the looooong time before the apps on the SD Card loads properly after reboot.
    07-12-2015 03:44 AM
  24. robinleck's Avatar
    Ivan, I did exactly what you have done and I find the OS is so much fluid and snappy. Thanks!So highly recommended to do a hard reset on a clean slate. Cheers !!!
    07-12-2015 06:21 AM
  25. Hadrian Embalsado's Avatar
    My problem is that my keyboard isn't responding. I try to type but it's not showing letters.

    I'm using a Lumia 630.
    07-12-2015 06:30 AM
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