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  1. jason2234's Avatar
    I cant find Here Drive in the store. I'm on build 10166.

    Is it just not a windows 10 app or has something gone wrong
    07-11-2015 08:57 AM
  2. marratj's Avatar
    In Windows 10 you actually don't need HERE Drive. All features except for my commute are available in the built-in maps app.
    07-11-2015 09:12 AM
  3. Charles Brown8's Avatar
    I had the opposite experience. In 149 I could not update here maps or drive. I updated to 166 and the here apps updated with no problem from the store. Weird.
    07-11-2015 09:16 AM
  4. Teo Bartulovic's Avatar
    I have no problems at all, all here portfolio of apps works just fine, maps downloading as well, on both, 149 & 166...





    07-11-2015 09:27 AM
  5. wozburger's Avatar
    None of the Here apps are available to me either (US store).
    07-11-2015 04:54 PM
  6. Rande's Avatar
    In Windows 10 you actually don't need HERE Drive. All features except for my commute are available in the built-in maps app.
    Disagree.....
    There are a lot of features like choice of the route (fastest, shortest etc.), route options , speed warning missing in the build in maps app.


    Unfortunately I have the same problem with all of the here apps. After a hard reset these apps are gone and can't be reinstalled.
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    07-13-2015 06:36 AM
  7. Teo Bartulovic's Avatar
    There are a lot of features like choice of the route (fastest, shortest etc.), route options , speed warning missing in the build in maps app. .
    very agree with U ;)
    07-13-2015 06:55 AM
  8. Zulfigar's Avatar
    SysApp Pusher? See if that can find Here Maps and Here Drive+
    07-13-2015 07:03 AM
  9. Rande's Avatar
    Oh, hi Teo.
    World is really small. Greetings from Germany. (Randy F.)
    It's true, the Here Maps app is a lot better than the build in maps app.


    SysApp Pusher? See if that can find Here Maps and Here Drive+
    Hi.
    I also tried this. The new store tells me, that the here apps are unavailable.
    07-13-2015 07:22 AM
  10. EndOfRope's Avatar
    Hi,
    i have downloaded Here Drive+ last weekend. The store was slow but i have installed it on my old L520 running 10.0.166
    However with the old TP 10.0.149 it was impossible.
    07-13-2015 07:28 AM
  11. Rande's Avatar
    Hi,
    i have downloaded Here Drive+ last weekend. The store was slow but i have installed it on my old L520 running 10.0.166
    However with the old TP 10.0.149 it was impossible.
    Very mysterious...
    With the x.149 the here apps where working until the store (beta) wanted to update them. After that I couldn't start the apps. They stayed in the app list, but that was all. No starting and no uninstalling was possible. So I decided to hard reset the phone and all was fine. But almost there, I only could download the here apps through the old store.
    And then x.166 was coming... the apps worked well, but I was forced to do a hard reset twice due to some other issues. After hard reset and installing a backup from onedrive, the apps where gone.

    Very curious.
    07-13-2015 11:28 AM
  12. marratj's Avatar
    Disagree.....
    There are a lot of features like choice of the route (fastest, shortest etc.), route options , speed warning missing in the build in maps app.


    Unfortunately I have the same problem with all of the here apps. After a hard reset these apps are gone and can't be reinstalled.
    Route options (except fastest/shortest, but with traffic avoidance) and speed warnings are there.
    07-13-2015 01:35 PM
  13. Guzzler3's Avatar
    I really think MS is consolidating those apps into the new maps app.
    07-13-2015 01:45 PM
  14. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    Maybe Nokia needs to update HERE for Windows 10.

    HERE is still owned by Nokia. Microsoft didn't buy HERE.

    Sent from my rooted Nexus 7 (2013) using Tapatalk
    07-13-2015 02:13 PM
  15. kurtd's Avatar
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    07-13-2015 06:55 PM
  16. EndOfRope's Avatar
    Hello,
    Laura is right, the Here Drive+ App is from Here BV. So this is were the problems come from. I think there are 3 ways MS may go:
    - Building WM10 in a way that the old WM8.1 App Here Drive+ works. Until now MS failed to do so. Maybee its impossible without changing the App.
    - MS could pay Here BV a lot of Euros to bring a new App to WM10. I think they dont want to pay and even then Here BV will need some time. That would possible not be finished for the offical release of WM10 in September.
    - MS may try to build their own navigation App. It seems like the try this with that build in Map app. This would be a big step backwards. If MS does this they will not have a useful navigation in WM10

    If finally they release WM10 without a good navigation app then WM10 will probably fail. Nobody will buy it like that and market share will soon be similar to blackberry. I think all that tech bloggers out there are only waiting for something like that. It would be a pity.
    07-14-2015 02:42 AM
  17. marratj's Avatar
    Hello,
    Laura is right, the Here Drive+ App is from Here BV. So this is were the problems come from. I think there are 3 ways MS may go:
    - Building WM10 in a way that the old WM8.1 App Here Drive+ works. Until now MS failed to do so. Maybee its impossible without changing the App.
    - MS could pay Here BV a lot of Euros to bring a new App to WM10. I think they dont want to pay and even then Here BV will need some time. That would possible not be finished for the offical release of WM10 in September.
    - MS may try to build their own navigation App. It seems like the try this with that build in Map app. This would be a big step backwards. If MS does this they will not have a useful navigation in WM10

    If finally they release WM10 without a good navigation app then WM10 will probably fail. Nobody will buy it like that and market share will soon be similar to blackberry. I think all that tech bloggers out there are only waiting for something like that. It would be a pity.
    What exactly do you think should change in the built-in maps app so it gets as useful as here drive?
    07-14-2015 11:51 AM
  18. pipe7's Avatar
    I'm thinking the HERE apps might be going away. Nokia made it clear they weren't going to spend much time on WP apps a while after MS bought the phone division. But rather concentrate on Android and iOS apps. MS then piped up when people started freaking and said something about working with Nokia/HERE to maintain those services on WP. But i'm thinking they're just going to license map data and some other HERE technology and built it into their own Windows Maps app. If you try various things in the W10 Maps app you can see they're basically trying to build all the functionality from HERE Maps, Drive, Transit, etc into the single app. Not the worst way to go, HERE really has a lot of apps with overlapping features which makes things a little messy. Single app to do it all would be great - BUT MS really needs to polish it up and add a lot of stuff. Pretty crude at the moment.
    07-14-2015 03:52 PM
  19. Paenthy's Avatar
    I hardly think HERE apps are the core of W10 to claim it probably will fail without them :/ But i get your point. A good navigation app is needed and for me, HERE was on point :) Lets hope and see what comes out :D
    07-14-2015 08:08 PM
  20. pmhgeneral's Avatar
    The new navigation map is a good start, but after trying to use on 3 recent trips it just went bad each time. Twice it froze up about three miles from my home just started trip and the third time about one hour into the trip it wasn't able to tell me if I should go left or right, but the only way was left or straight. I don't believe it could find it's way out of a bag. Back to co pilot & here maps should have known better.
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    07-14-2015 08:29 PM
  21. marratj's Avatar
    The new navigation map is a good start, but after trying to use on 3 recent trips it just went bad each time. Twice it froze up about three miles from my home just started trip and the third time about one hour into the trip it wasn't able to tell me if I should go left or right, but the only way was left or straight. I don't believe it could find it's way out of a bag. Back to co pilot & here maps should have known better.
    I have the same problem with the maps app freezing after a few minutes of voice navigation and sent a feedback request about it. I hope they fix that one soon, then I personally don't need HERE Drive anymore.
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    07-15-2015 03:24 AM
  22. marratj's Avatar
    I have the same problem with the maps app freezing after a few minutes of voice navigation and sent a feedback request about it. I hope they fix that one soon, then I personally don't need HERE Drive anymore.
    Yay, after last night's update, the maps app no longer freezes during navigation for me. So long HERE Drive, and thanks for all the fish.

    Now that Nokia only ccares for their android and iOS versions anymore, they can keep their outdated HERE suite for Windows phone.

    I just hope, Microsoft keeps further developing what they got now, as I already find it better than HERE Drive.
    07-18-2015 04:56 PM
  23. tangledW's Avatar
    In Windows 10 you actually don't need HERE Drive. All features except for my commute are available in the built-in maps app.
    Except that navigation freezes constantly and the app crashes randomly.
    07-18-2015 05:05 PM
  24. kurtd's Avatar
    Yay, after last night's update, the maps app no longer freezes during navigation for me. So long HERE Drive, and thanks for all the fish.

    Now that Nokia only ccares for their android and iOS versions anymore, they can keep their outdated HERE suite for Windows phone.

    I just hope, Microsoft keeps further developing what they got now, as I already find it better than HERE Drive.
    Can you still download the maps? If it's basically here re-branded and improved by MS then it wouldn't make sense to offer both apps. Sounds nice though, can't wait to try it.
    07-18-2015 07:30 PM
  25. marratj's Avatar
    Can you still download the maps? If it's basically here re-branded and improved by MS then it wouldn't make sense to offer both apps. Sounds nice though, can't wait to try it.
    Yes, you can download the maps still in the phone settings (so they are available offline system-wide for all apps), just like you could already from 8.0 onwards. It's basically just rebranded as you said. There was even a blog post by the MS maps team a few months ago, where they said they wanted to retain all the familiar features from HERE Drive.

    As for the freezing issue, since the last maps app update yesterday, it doesn't freeze during navigation anymore for me.

    Edit: here is the blog post by MS: http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwin...aps-for-phone/

    Edit2: what the MS maps app also does (unlike HERE Drive) is offering you driving routes based on current traffic conditions. This is one thing HERE had already for their Symbian app, but never integrated into the Windows Phone version.
    07-19-2015 03:36 AM
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