08-21-2015 06:31 PM
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  1. minus365's Avatar
    I for sure will update to Win 10 on day1. I am on TP now and even I wasnt too optimistic and there are some UI changes I dont like too much, I must admit that OS is making another step forward. There are some nice improvements all over the place, some minor, some major. As part of OS are now in separate apps, they can be updated anytime without need to update whole OS, that is great.

    I will update regardless if more new features are added or not.
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    07-15-2015 03:18 AM
  2. AkArora's Avatar
    I installed build 10149 on my 830 and used it for more than a week as my daily driver. Not even once was I greeted with "Resuming" screens while switching between apps.

    I could even pick up my phone after an hour and switch to an app like Skype in a second, with no Resuming etc. That for me beats any other reason I could have thought of to upgrade to WP10. On WP 8.1, I would see Resuming screens for 5-10 seconds before switching to most of the apps.
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    07-15-2015 03:22 AM
  3. mikepalma's Avatar
    I like 8.1 better than what 10 is supposed to be...hopefully can get the new "flagship like 1520" and load 8.1 and dump androidy 10
    07-15-2015 03:41 AM
  4. dwaynebritton's Avatar
    I for one will stay with Win Phone as long as it's around!

    I hate all things apple. I have been doing computer work since before apple came along. I remember the first few times I call them for support. They were even then so arrogant, even about the smallest things. Then I met the god known as jobs, I have never met anyone so arrogant in my life. I also had some friends over the years that went to work for the apple pit, the stories they tell!

    I met Bill Gates back in the mid 80's, he was so easy to talk to, and either answered everything I ask about, or gave me numbers of people that could! I talked to lots of MS people over the years, never once was I ever treated badly!

    I have had 5 different android phones, None of them worked the same, even running the same version of android! I hate it when friends get a new android, and ask for help. No it doesn't take long to figure them out, but Why!

    I have loaned my old Lumia 620 to a few friends to try, 70%+ just loved it, half or better now have Lumia's

    My Lumia 635, is still trying to get build 166, it sticks at 31%. Am I upset, no a bit disappointed, but I have been playing with beta software from MS for 20+ years, and I kn MS will fix it!

    Even if my 635 bricks, it will still be ok, I knew the risks, I was warned, it's my fault!

    But when wp10 comes out, I will be in line for a new Lumis with wp10 on it!

    Live long and Prosper, MS Lumia!

    Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
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    07-15-2015 04:58 AM
  5. rhapdog's Avatar
    I have been doing computer work since before apple came along.
    Nice to meet someone else who lived through the 60's and 70's. ;) I say 60's also, because you'd have to be at least that old to be doing computer work already by the time 1976 came around.

    Also nice to meet someone who, when they say "computer work", is not talking about a personal computer of some sort. Yeah, those computers were WAY to big to put on a desk, yet didn't have near the power of a phone from 10 years ago. Ah, memories.

    I remember the first few times I call them for support. They were even then so arrogant, even about the smallest things. Then I met the god known as jobs, I have never met anyone so arrogant in my life. I also had some friends over the years that went to work for the apple pit, the stories they tell!
    I had heard nightmares from a couple of friends, but I never had to call Apple for support. Never had to call Microsoft either, though. The products over the years supported themselves pretty well for the most part. I sort of called IBM for support a few times, though, which was, in essence, calling my Dad. He's still awesome on what's what with computers, and he's getting on up there. What do you expect with an IQ over 170, though.

    I met Bill Gates back in the mid 80's, he was so easy to talk to, and either answered everything I ask about, or gave me numbers of people that could! I talked to lots of MS people over the years, never once was I ever treated badly!
    You see, I'm more impressed with you meeting Bill Gates than Steve Jobs. Bill Gates has taken his billions and helped so many people, and he and his wife are still in the business of helping people all over the world. The same can't be said of anyone at Apple.

    You will see that plays down into the corporate philosophy. When you've got an arrogant egomaniacal CEO, then you get arrogant customer support. When you've got a CEO that cares for the people in the world, then you get customer support that cares. Does every single person in support care? I think that would be impossible to screen and hire, but I'll bet those that don't care don't last long at Microsoft.

    I had a friend that had met Bill Gates around the time that Microsoft was founded. He tried to get me to invest $100 in this "new company" that Bill Gates was starting, because he thought it would pay off. I can't tell you how many times I've been sorry that I didn't. $100 then would have had me set for life by the time 1990 rolled around.

    I have had 5 different android phones, None of them worked the same, even running the same version of android! I hate it when friends get a new android, and ask for help. No it doesn't take long to figure them out, but Why!
    Yet, whether you purchase a Lumia 520, or a 1520, or an 830, or a 635, the experience is the same. Even purchasing a different OEM (non-Lumia), it's the same experience. You don't have to learn how all over again, until we get to Windows 10, we'll learn that once, but it's going to be easy.

    I have loaned my old Lumia 620 to a few friends to try, 70%+ just loved it, half or better now have Lumia's
    Yeah, same here. So many people say you can't convert people on Android because they've purchased apps they don't want to lose or have to purchase again. Thing is, a large majority of Android users only get the free apps and never pay for one. It's one of the reasons they go Android. Not an issue for 70%+ of them, nor are specific apps an issue for 70%+ of them. That's been my experience in real life, as opposed to what people tell you on the internet. "It's the apps! It's all about apps!" Yeah, not really. Somewhat, yes. After all, we'll need to get that other 30% at some point. ;) If it were the apps, then you and I would not be converting 70%+. Those 70%+ are the ones who have stayed with it and are still happy with their choice, you know, without having buyers remorse. There was one that wanted to go back, but I don't count him in that.

    I wonder how many people continuum for phones will convert, especially when paired with an Intel x86 architecture to run desktop apps in the future?

    My Lumia 635, is still trying to get build 166, it sticks at 31%. Am I upset, no a bit disappointed, but I have been playing with beta software from MS for 20+ years, and I kn MS will fix it!
    Agreed.

    Even if my 635 bricks, it will still be ok, I knew the risks, I was warned, it's my fault!
    Been there. Bricked mine already. Lumia Software Recovery Tool brought it back to life doing a dead flash of the ROM. However, while it was bricked and before I figured it out, I bought a replacement 635, which now my wife owns. I challenged her to use it for 7 days, which was nearly 3 weeks ago. She's told me I'm never getting it back, and has already bought a 32GB microSD for it, a new case and a tempered glass screen protector. I think she's going to keep it. ;)

    She had said she will never use a smart phone, period, because her old "feature" phone did everything she needed, yet a week with a Lumia changed her mind. She's tried iPhone and Android in the past, but they could not change her mind. They are the reason she said she would never have a smart phone. She hated them that much, that she would rather go without a smart phone than have to use them. She absolutely loves her 635.

    Thanks so much for your post. Enjoyed it immensely.
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    07-15-2015 06:21 AM
  6. dwaynebritton's Avatar
    Hey Thanks for your reply, I enjoyed it as well!

    I had really just got Started with the big computers, as the first kit computers you built yourself came along, I built two. My first store bought was a TRS 80, with a tape deck for the backup. Next was TRS 80 #4 with two floppy drives. Lots of fun! Timex Sinclair was next. Then a Digital running UNIX. Next and IBM 286 with 1/4 meg of ram, and a 10 meg HD!

    I will be saving money for the Lumia Flagship coming this year!
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    07-15-2015 11:21 AM
  7. dwaynebritton's Avatar
    Peter Norton, was a treat to meet. I had read a book by him, and it just blew my mind, how he understood computers, and how well he explained how they worked! I set though an hour talk about antivirus software, and what was ahead!
    07-15-2015 12:11 PM
  8. koreatownexile's Avatar
    I'd like to see more new features. The people hub needs more cleaning I don't like it at all . Also the live tile people hub sucks .6tag integration would be nice. The new calendrer app is way to messy . I really like the calendar on 8.1.
    With you on that. I hate HATE the animations on the people tile, those stupid circles. The adapting, enlarging squares on the original look amazing. I hate it when things get changed just to be changed and are then worse.
    07-15-2015 12:15 PM
  9. Al4video's Avatar
    Having to wait a couple of seconds every time I need to reach the menu gets boring real fast.
    If you have to wait a few seconds maybe you need another phone. it's very quick (instant) on my phone.
    07-15-2015 12:32 PM
  10. chasvs's Avatar
    I'll upgrade as soon as they fix the Cortana Bluetooth device connection issue. I was going to keep the 10166 preview on my daily driver but ended up reverting to 8.1 because I no longer had Cortana reading me my texts and allowing me to reply or send new texts over Bluetooth in my car. Once that is fixed I'll be good to go. All other new features in the works or planned will be icing on the cake!
    07-15-2015 12:57 PM
  11. pw38's Avatar
    Yes this is a sufficient enough upgrade that I'd definitely do it on day 1. I like everything I see so far even with the buggy state it's in. I can see the complaints people have because it does seem to be cribbing a lot from Android/iOS and seems to be losing the metro aesthetic but everything seems sharper now and there's far less wasted space, especially in the new Outlook app. In spite of the loss of originality it seems with their OS we're getting a more versatile product that customers are more accustomed to.
    07-15-2015 01:00 PM
  12. DavidinCT's Avatar
    Over all, only really using 10166 in depth (used 10149 for 3 hours then found MMS was not working and rolled back), I think I would upgrade. Why ?

    1. Better Email client (worlds better than 8/8.1)and better calendar
    2. Customization of the start screen is more dynamic, you can do a lot more with it (background images or just on tiles, or other options) to make it yours
    3. Better Notifications with more shortcuts, even a flashlight (finally !)
    4. Better Alarm layout (something I use every day) with stopwatch and timer built in.
    5. Voice writing on any app, when you bring up the keyboard, it shows a microphone, was doing Twitter and facebook posts via voice, saves so much time ! Very cool
    6. Better Xbox live Client (I am a gamer, so it's something I was looking forward to, although very buggy at this point).
    7. More options in Settings, although it's not finished, I think it's got a lot of hope

    Now, All depends if all the bugs are fixed will make the deciding factor, Cortana does not work right (only partly), Xbox live is slow as crap, Application crashes are very common, battery life is good but, not as good as 8.1 and the phone gets very hot after even 3-4 min of use.... So, I will not update on day one but, maybe day 3....

    Then there is the other side of it, IF I OFFCALLY can. This is a Verizon ICON, a discontinued phone that we made a BIG deal to get 8.1 and it took forever. The MAJOR question is, will Verizon actually spend the time on a phone that was discontinued about a year ago with a new update ?

    Knowing Verizon's history, I don't think it will happen, so we will be stuck on The dev preview forever, If it does happen, 6-8 months after release.

    Waiting for the moment to say "S.C.R.E.W YOU Verizon again".....sigh...

    but, no question when new models come out (high end models, not entry level stuff), with Continuum, I will look, as long as the Application "gap" is closed a little with Universal apps...
    07-15-2015 01:15 PM
  13. Vago Pachuquero's Avatar
    Well the OS seems okay, it still lags and freezes up on my 1320 especially when I try to share a picture. The ability to have texts read out while plugged in to y car's AUX jack is not there no more so that sucks. Also I cannot choose a ringtone from the list of my custom ones, they just don't show up when trying to set one, it just lists the default built in ones and what's strange is that I can browse to the files and open them via file browser and can even open them; the only app that can open them is my alarms app, it lets me choose from my ring tones. WTF?
    07-15-2015 01:20 PM
  14. MikeSo's Avatar
    Absolutely. While I mourn the loss of the pivot navigation, the rest of W10M is coming together very nicely, and the new UI, input methods and apps make me excited about it. I will jump at it first chance I get. Hope more developers get on board too....

    Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
    07-15-2015 01:46 PM
  15. MikeSo's Avatar
    Yes. I will be upgrading! As a graphic/web/mograph designer my life revolves around design. The new UI and aesthetics of Windows 10 Mobile are far better than WP8/8.1. I liked WP8 and I fell in love with it but things change and evolve. Though I wish the new UI was a bit more vibrant and live. Maybe adding the Aero effect in some areas, like the Notification + Action Center, in Cortana, banners/toast notifications/music controller.Attachment 108424Attachment 108425
    https://windowsphone.uservoice.com/f...ication-center

    I would also like to see a more integrated Cortana, maybe living next to the Start Screen, on the left. Check it out! Attachment 108423https://windowsphone.uservoice.com/forums/101801-feature-suggestions/suggestions/8496286-more-integrated-cortana-cortana-on-the-start-sc

    Today, I used an iPhone, which I hadn't in a while, and though I stopped liking Apple products, there was something that called me to it. The UI and smoothness of the OS was good. It looks alive and colorful, fun and entertaining.

    If you would like to see these features vote for them on User Voice (links below images).
    By the way, I heard that they said they/Microsoft said that there wouldn't be new features in W10M until the PC version reached RTM. Dont quote me on that though.

    Note: Excuse the mockups as they were made under 5 mins.
    That's a total Android ripoff (having Cortana on swipe-from-left) but I like it. :) It would be nice if MS also ripped off the swipe-from-left in apps, to access the hamburger menu. Not sure if they can even do that without getting sued though. :p

    Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
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    07-15-2015 02:02 PM
  16. PBLNS's Avatar
    Hi, I have 1 simple question.... anyone has this version on a Lumia 920?? is it good enought for my main device? The battery will last the same amount of time?

    Thx =D I have been waiting to upgrade far too long!
    07-15-2015 02:13 PM
  17. MikeSo's Avatar
    If you have to wait a few seconds maybe you need another phone. it's very quick (instant) on my phone.
    What is it you are talking about? I don't see any functionality like that on my 635 with 10166. At least I haven't noticed.

    Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
    07-15-2015 02:17 PM
  18. chuckdaly's Avatar
    There is far more to deter me than persuade me to make the switch to W10 mobile. Edge browser, Store Beta and new Outlook calendar app are the only things I that I find to be better. I'm having a hard time seeing what is in build 10166 that would make someone switch from iOS or Android.
    07-15-2015 02:18 PM
  19. akhilesh lumia's Avatar
    Dont updated now , its irritating worst os and support
    every half an hour its asking scan SD card if we press YES even doesn't happen anything

    apps are not supporting

    and i lost all data

    its horrible ,

    what ever android is best

    even no Magic jack app

    no better apps

    my model number lumia 535
    First microsoft worst mobile which is continuing [sucking my blood
    07-15-2015 02:41 PM
  20. rhapdog's Avatar
    Dont updated now , its irritating worst os and support
    every half an hour its asking scan SD card if we press YES even doesn't happen anything

    apps are not supporting

    and i lost all data

    its horrible ,
    If you're having that trouble with the SD card, it isn't the OS or the phone. That sound like you picked up a "fake SD" card. Once you get to a certain point filling up the card, the data corrupts and you start losing stuff. Get a valid microSD card for your phone, and that will clear up the problem. Shame on whomever sold you the card in the first place. Unfortunately, there are a LOT of disreputable dealers that do just that.

    If you don't know what a fake SD card is, do a quick search in your browser. You'll get more hits than you care to read. Read one and and see what it is.
    07-15-2015 03:08 PM
  21. MikeSo's Avatar
    Dont updated now , its irritating worst os and support
    every half an hour its asking scan SD card if we press YES even doesn't happen anything

    apps are not supporting

    and i lost all data

    its horrible ,

    what ever android is best

    even no Magic jack app

    no better apps

    my model number lumia 535
    First microsoft worst mobile which is continuing [sucking my blood
    That reads like a poem.
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    07-15-2015 03:52 PM
  22. DavidinCT's Avatar
    Dont updated now , its irritating worst os and support
    every half an hour its asking scan SD card if we press YES even doesn't happen anything

    apps are not supporting

    and i lost all data

    its horrible ,

    what ever android is best

    even no Magic jack app

    no better apps

    my model number lumia 535
    First microsoft worst mobile which is continuing [sucking my blood
    Stop what your doing now, Take your 535 back to the store you got it from and return it. Your an Android fan, so go back to your Android device.

    Your right a lot of apps are missing but, if you can find all the apps to do what you need, then it's all good stick with what like if your just going to bash it.

    -Email - Notifications for sub folders without having to pin them to the start....
    LOL good luck with that one... We have been asking it from the Windows Mobile days (going back to WM 5.0)... Keep asking and never get...

    I think I gave up when WP 7 came out and still nothing. At least in Mail on Windows 10, if you pin a folder (so you don't have keep hitting folders) it would be nice to see a notification for a new message but, that is more of a fantasy....
    07-15-2015 04:19 PM
  23. martinwtaylor's Avatar
    I shall upgrade as I like 10166 so far, it only has a couple of minor issues now. More importantly, I will go W10 on all my devices and I want a common platform to access my OneDrive documents wherever I am and whatever I'm doing. Windows 10 will be greater than the sum of each device.
    07-15-2015 04:29 PM
  24. KarmaEcrivain94's Avatar
    Here's a reason:
    https://gist.githubusercontent.com/d...7db/NewClasses

    This massive list is all the new APIs available to developpers in Windows 10. This means apps will be capable of doing waaaaaaaaay more stuff, and without w10 mobile, you will not get access to those apps.
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    07-15-2015 04:33 PM
  25. seasidepb's Avatar
    Proper Bluetooth support. I know it's in 8.2 but that's almost impossible to get hold of unless you have a Lumia 640. And I don't think the UI changes are superficial - the extended "settings" menu in 8.1 is frankly ridiculous: whoever thought that was a good idea? That said the bug fixing still has a long way to go. I've just gone back to 8.1 from 10166 because I was finding it hard to end a phone call... the screen just became unresponsive (on a 630). I will upgrade asap but I don't think I'll bother with any more preview versions until it's much closer to completion.
    07-15-2015 05:11 PM
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