Here Drive+ and Here Maps are gone in 10512

[divyan]

My experience is that Here drive is very slow to sync with GPS. Especially if I stop in a traffic signal for a minute, then start the car. While testing a known route, it asked me to take a left instead of a right. Then after I drove 50 meters in the right direction, Here drive rerouted to show the correct road. Later on, it took me to a dead end and then went into endless loop.

This happened on TP 10512.

PS : This is not a complaint or whining, while I love the new Here Maps, there are things MS still should streamline.

 

[realwarder]

The augmented reality view is gone. Also, HERE Drive had the My Commute, ability to set route settings (toll, dirt roads, etc.) and had a UI much better suited to using in a car. Nearby was simpler and quicker to use in HERE.

Overall the map UI just feels more thrown together and less optimized for phone and car use. But that argument has been made about WP 10 in general.

But the integration with Cortana data is nice.

If you tell Cortana where your Work location is she will optionally give traffic info/trip time to work which is what the My Commute was. In fact she does it for all meetings too so that feature is done another way.

When you ask for directions the Options section allows selection of Toll roads etc.

I agree Augmented view is gone though.

 

[Ed Boland]

Will I lose the Lumia and Here apps when I hard reset? Yes or no

Not sure. I think it might depend on your region. I installed 10512 on my AT&T (U.S.) 1520 and did a hard reset and found HERE Drive and HERE maps installed by default (as part of my phone's "stock apps") strangely enough. Of course they had to update through the store along with about 37 other apps.

 

[heickelrrx]

I think HERE suite are need to get updated for windows 10

Don't expect see them in preview

 

[michail71]

Well, HERE seems to be there (sorry, had to say that). I've got it now but haven't hard reset either. It doesn't show in the store but that doesn't always mean it can't install.

Cortana knows my work and home but doesn't seem to alert me to issues like MyCommute did on HERE. Perhaps I need to check more closely.

I guess the big issues then are poor UI for use in car (all over feedback too), no 3D driving mode outside of an actual route and no augmented reality.

Biggest thing people on feedback are mentioning is confusing controls, hard to read and poor use of space.

I figure it is that way because they are trying to make it a universal app on the desktop and phone. However, trying to be both it fails to excel at either. I fear this may be the result of designing for Continuum.

 

[Jakoh]

You know, you COULD give microsoft's replacement a chance before instantly discarding it and complaining that the old apps aren't there.

As long as M$ maps run offline, i have no issue with not having Here maps. I think Maps app is pretty good. Especially for manually navigating directions (not dummie mode Navigtaion)

 

[heickelrrx]

MS map aee Here maps technically

 

[mhc48]

The augmented reality view is gone. Also, HERE Drive had the My Commute, ability to set route settings (toll, dirt roads, etc.) and had a UI much better suited to using in a car. Nearby was simpler and quicker to use in HERE.

Overall the map UI just feels more thrown together and less optimized for phone and car use. But that argument has been made about WP 10 in general.

But the integration with Cortana data is nice.

My Commute is in (and integrated with) Cortana. To get to route settings for toll roads etc.) open directions, then options. If by augmented reality view you mean aerial photo ) vs roadmap, click the layers icon.

 

[michail71]

My Commute is in (and integrated with) Cortana. To get to route settings for toll roads etc.) open directions, then options. If by augmented reality view you mean aerial photo ) vs roadmap, click the layers icon.

Augmented reality is where you can use the screen combined with the GPS and compass to view your surroundings superimposed with data. Kind of like a virtual reality compass.

 

[michail71]

As long as M$ maps run offline, i have no issue with not having Here maps. I think Maps app is pretty good. Especially for manually navigating directions (not dummie mode Navigtaion)

Pretty good but not good enough compared to what the other platforms are doing these days. Although it's all subjective. Had they kept the HERE core and integrated it with Cortana the end result would have been better.

But I'm seeing more and more how Win 10 being designed for Continuum, universal app and android apps is making it optimized for neither mode of operation. This doesn't need to be the case. There are plenty of HTML5 frameworks that are highly adaptive to their environments.

 

[devlam]

Will I lose the Lumia and Here apps when I hard reset? Yes or no

I lost it while running WP10 preview. Also hard reset didn't bring them back.
I downgraded back to 8.1 and there Here drive and maps is still available. Only thing I lost is saving maps to SD. Disappointed again

 

[hairychad]

All of my mail info is in Here so it looks like a revert is needed to 8.1 until either here is available or an export facility is given

 

[keathkeath]

They are trying to make a Map App which can replace both HERE Drive and HERE Maps.

 

[hairychad]

Sorry I meant map info, favourites etc.. I like the new one but without the data I've acquired I'm a little stuck

 

[anthonyng]

They are trying to make a Map App which can replace both HERE Drive and HERE Maps.

Hopefully, I never liked two separate apps

 

[michail71]

Hopefully, I never liked two separate apps

Which would be fine if the new version could do what the other two apps did but it doesn't.

 

[Vlatko Stojanovski]

I remember that for some regions the HERE Drive and Maps did not come with the phone in 8.0 and 8.1 also, but there was never a problem to install them.

I have 2 Lumia phones running Preview 10 and both have Here Maps and Drive installed. As I recall the 930 had them by default on hard reset, for the 920 I had to get them in the store or change the phone location temporarily in settings to install them on the phone.

However they both work without issues on phone 10 preview.

 

[Terryznn]

I have 2 Lumia 1520s , RM-937 and RM-938 , both are now on windows 10 build 10512 ,every time I updated so many apps stucked , stuck on loading to Start screen , Here drive and here map gone , I gone back to 8.1 , did the hard reset , re-installed the app then backed up . then updated again ..now both work fine , every apps I installed before work fine . )

 

[anthonyng]

Which would be fine if the new version could do what the other two apps did but it doesn't.

Hopefully it's coming It's more crucial on phone that windows 10 right now anyways

 

[michail71]

I hope so, augmented reality is cool to have but not a deal breaker. Driving mode without an active route should be there. Then there is the whole non optimized UI problem. Luckily there is quite a bit of feedback on the UI issues.