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  1. Steve Thackery's Avatar
    Such feature would need to have an on/off switch.
    Oh, yes, absolutely. Every phone that provides the feature lets you configure the sound, the interval between reminders, and whether it is switched on at all.
    08-25-2015 11:30 AM
  2. Steve Thackery's Avatar
    And let me just remind you guys: the statistics are heavily with me, not with you. The only phones which cannot provide a repeating flash, vibrate or bleep when there's an unread notification are Windows phones. All other phones provide that feature in one form or another.

    So why are you arguing so vigorously that my need is vanishingly rare? Every other phone manufacturer on the planet, and every other phone OS maker, disagrees with you.
    08-25-2015 11:36 AM
  3. RumoredNow's Avatar
    I still say it goes to habits.

    You can work with what you have...Or not. You can switch or not. It all comes down to personal choices.

    And again, as I stated at the outset of my participation in this thread: I'm not saying you should not have it available

    *shrug* I'm not saying you shouldn't have it if you want, but it is also quite unnecessary IMHO.

    My usage has nothing to do with it. What I do works for me and apparently it won't work for you. You wanted to talk about you and your issue. You also seem reluctant to assess any solutions and remain adamant that only a constantly repeating tone works for you. I can't supply that so I'll step out now...
    08-25-2015 12:08 PM
  4. Steve Thackery's Avatar
    You also seem reluctant to assess any solutions and remain adamant that only a constantly repeating tone works for you. I can't supply that so I'll step out now...
    Hey, no need to step out! In fact, although the repeating notifications thing is very important to me, the idea of using a wearable is something I hadn't considered and does come pretty close to meeting my requirements. So no, I'm not reluctant to assess the alternatives. OK, a smartwatch isn't as convenient as repeating bleeps, but it must come pretty close - a glance at the watch is much more convenient than walking into the hallway to check the phone.

    I've just taken a look at the Microsoft Band - wow, it's big and ugly! Something like the Pebble would be much more suitable. I am definitely going to pursue this option.

    My usage has nothing to do with it.
    I agree, but it was you who first mentioned it. Meanwhile, I think I've made a good argument as to why Windows Phone/Mobile is unusual in not offering something that every other phone (smart or otherwise) offers in one form or another. Therefore it seems reasonable for me to moan about it and question why they've made such an odd design decision. Finally, I very much appreciate the idea of using a wearable as an alternative approach.

    Edit: What a disappointment - Pebble doesn't support Windows Phone/Mobile.
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    08-25-2015 12:57 PM
  5. fatclue_98's Avatar
    But let me remind you, we had dumbphones with this feature for what - 20 years? - and we didn't have phones flying out of windows. The LACK of repeating notifications is a new thing.
    So are smartphones as BYOD options for work. I didn't mention any other scenario, only workplace. There are still some businesses that don't allow phones of ANY type while an employee is on the clock. I don't care if any of my subordinates carry 20 phones on them as long as I don't hear so much as a chirp.

    I get that you want this feature. I had a 1520 myself, excellent phone, but not every phone has every feature we want. My needs are different from yours and you may consider my needs/wants as silly or unimportant. It doesn't matter to me one bit but you need to understand that others may feel the same about your nitpicks. Is it enough of a deal-breaker for you to move on to another OS? Only you can decide that. If it is, do it and be happy with your choice. But coming on here and expecting everyone to agree with you is not realistic.
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    08-25-2015 01:42 PM
  6. jsooney's Avatar
    I've seen many requests for a persistent alert feature on Windows phone. Usually it's from people who use WP for work reasons and get alerts and emails that that need attention. This is particularly true for people who are on call. They want something that will wake them up if asleep, or get their attention in a more persistent manner. The lack of a visual alert (flashing light), also annoys a lot of people, particularly those who have migrated from BlackBerrys.
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    08-25-2015 03:53 PM
  7. worldspy99's Avatar
    And let me just remind you guys: the statistics are heavily with me, not with you. The only phones which cannot provide a repeating flash, vibrate or bleep when there's an unread notification are Windows phones. All other phones provide that feature in one form or another.

    So why are you arguing so vigorously that my need is vanishingly rare? Every other phone manufacturer on the planet, and every other phone OS maker, disagrees with you.
    OP:
    WP does not have this feature and it is bothersome for you - fair enough.
    Android actually does not have this feature, but since there are a 1.6 million apps in the Play store, you can download one app and ensure that your needs are met.
    iOS - I am surprised you didn't mention the little fruit stand from Cupertino? That too doesn't have this feature.

    Just because dumb phones had this feature is not a really compelling reason to get it. The way people use smartphones and dumbphones has changed dramatically in the last 10 years. Apparently all three major smartphone OSes today don't offer what you want by default and that indicates that the feature you want is not coveted by the majority of the users. So unless a lot of users clamor for this feature I guess you might have to give up your wonderful 1520 and get an Android device and download that app....or be open to a wearable or get into the habit of using the Glance feature on the device. Hopefully the newer WP devices will have the LED indication lights and that will help.
    Last edited by worldspy99; 08-25-2015 at 05:26 PM.
    08-25-2015 04:14 PM
  8. Szymon Zycinski's Avatar
    OK. So is it possible that future windows phones will have led reminder? It is a shame that this feature is not available in WP.
    08-25-2015 04:16 PM
  9. worldspy99's Avatar
    My curiosity got a little bit piqued by the OP's first post. So I did a little digging around. Here is one app in the Play Store that provides for repeating audible notifications:
    https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...renotify&hl=en

    Only between 10K and 50K downloads....and the comments were quite funny to read. I guess there is a pretty healthy statistical outlier population....
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    08-25-2015 04:18 PM
  10. worldspy99's Avatar
    OK. So is it possible that future windows phones will have led reminder? It is a shame that this feature is not available in WP.
    LEDs would be nice. I got irritated by them on the Meizu M1 Note and the Xiaomi Mi Note Pro. I actually prefer Glance. But I guess everyone has their own preference.
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    08-25-2015 04:20 PM
  11. Curtieson's Avatar
    Oh, grow up. You think I'm wrong because I asked for a particular feature (a feature that I can get on every dumbphone ever made and every Android phone, I remind you)? I won't tell you what I think about you.
    I did say no offense and you instantly took an offense...not everyone is out to get you!

    I was just saying, you are asking for a phone to continuously beep when you are not around. That is not annoying to you, because you are not around, but it is 100% annoying to others, because they are going to be around your phone when you leave it on a desk and go off to an hour long meeting. ["But I wouldn't do that"...but someone would!]
    I mean, I'd vote that all phones should include a sort of Treasure Tag so that when you aren't within 30 feet of it, it will not ever make a noise. The benefit of that is that once you get back to within, say, 10 feet it could signal that it got something while you were away. [I actually love that idea, haha]

    Sure...you mention it would have 10 minute between beeps, that would help but someone would demand 5 minutes, or even 1 minute. That in itself is a slippery slope. I am extremely jaded to your idea because when I was in college I had someone leave their phone in my room, locked, and received a text, at 6 AM. Since I couldn't read it, it wouldn't shut up...for HOURS. Stupid flipping flip phones flipping making me flip out.
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    08-25-2015 04:43 PM
  12. HoosierDaddy's Avatar
    IMHO
    That's where I stopped reading. I don't read humble opinions. Stick to the borderline arrogant opinions we all love.
    08-25-2015 04:50 PM
  13. RumoredNow's Avatar
    That's where I stopped reading. I don't read humble opinions. Stick to the borderline arrogant opinions we all love.
    won-internet.jpg



    I have never before given this prestigious award twice in one day. However, today you can split teh interwebz with AndyCalling.
    http://forums.windowscentral.com/gen...ml#post3207804
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    08-25-2015 05:02 PM
  14. worldspy99's Avatar
    And let me just remind you guys: the statistics are heavily with me, not with you. The only phones which cannot provide a repeating flash, vibrate or bleep when there's an unread notification are Windows phones. All other phones provide that feature in one form or another.

    So why are you arguing so vigorously that my need is vanishingly rare? Every other phone manufacturer on the planet, and every other phone OS maker, disagrees with you.
    Your attempt at statistics based argument made me go and look these up for you....
    First link is a brief synopsis
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to...ith_Statistics

    Second link provides the entire book in pdf version
    http://www.horace.org/blog/wp-conten...-1954-Huff.pdf

    Third link is a paper published as to why the book has sold so well in the last 50 odd years...
    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...OQ4yqUAbKYxz8A
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    08-25-2015 05:31 PM
  15. worldspy99's Avatar
    Sometimes I might go a couple of hours without thinking to check the phone. Meanwhile my buddy might have left me a text asking if he can come round with some beers and he's sitting there waiting for me to reply.
    Here is how this little skit would play out in my household....
    I have to go and get the car washed and get a hair cut....I leave my fancy dandy Android phone in the house while I am out for a couple of hours....Meanwhile my buddy leaves me a text asking if he can come to my place with some beers and he is sitting at his place waiting for me to reply....my phone is going bonkers at my house due to the text that my buddy sent....meanwhile my spouse who is at home is going berserk with my phone going off its rocker decides that it is better for me to have a WindowsPhone like hers and a cold glass of water is better than a round of beer or two with my buddy and disposes off my little pestilence of a smartphone.....

    Anyway that would be the scenario in my case, YMMV.
    08-25-2015 05:58 PM
  16. HoosierDaddy's Avatar
    Here is how this little skit would play out in my household....
    I have to go and get the car washed and get a hair cut....I leave my fancy dandy Android phone in the house while I am out for a couple of hours....Meanwhile my buddy leaves me a text asking if he can come to my place with some beers and he is sitting at his place waiting for me to reply....my phone is going bonkers at my house due to the text that my buddy sent....meanwhile my spouse who is at home is going berserk with my phone going off its rocker decides that it is better for me to have a WindowsPhone like hers and a cold glass of water is better than a round of beer or two with my buddy and disposes off my little pestilence of a smartphone.....

    Anyway that would be the scenario in my case, YMMV.
    So basically you are saying that every platform but Windows has a war against women?
    08-25-2015 06:46 PM
  17. worldspy99's Avatar
    So basically you are saying that every platform but Windows has a war against women?
    Nope...any phone that annoyed my spouse incessantly would meet the same fate...she just happens to have a Lumia that she really likes ergo the WindowsPhone argument. I have tried to get her to use devices from the other two OS' else but nothing has worked so far....I specifically mentioned this was a case exclusive to me and mentioned YMMV....I guess you chose to gloss over the qualifiers....
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    08-25-2015 06:56 PM
  18. 11B1P's Avatar
    Here is how this little skit would play out in my household....
    I have to go and get the car washed and get a hair cut....I leave my fancy dandy Android phone in the house while I am out for a couple of hours....Meanwhile my buddy leaves me a text asking if he can come to my place with some beers and he is sitting at his place waiting for me to reply....my phone is going bonkers at my house due to the text that my buddy sent....meanwhile my spouse who is at home is going berserk with my phone going off its rocker decides that it is better for me to have a WindowsPhone like hers and a cold glass of water is better than a round of beer or two with my buddy and disposes off my little pestilence of a smartphone.....

    Anyway that would be the scenario in my case, YMMV.
    LOL, I like her already
    08-25-2015 07:16 PM
  19. LoganSmith5's Avatar
    iOS - I am surprised you didn't mention the little fruit stand from Cupertino? That too doesn't have this feature.
    Yes it does. Let me tell you how to use iOS.
    Go Settings - Notifications - Messages - Repeat Alerts

    There you can set how many times it repeats every 2 minutes, up to 10 times.

    I wish we had this option, I liked it when I used an iPhone.
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    08-25-2015 07:29 PM
  20. Steve Thackery's Avatar
    OP:
    Android actually does not have this feature, but since there are a 1.6 million apps in the Play store, you can download one app and ensure that your needs are met.
    The key point is that Android's API provides support for the feature, which is all that's needed. I wasn't necessarily expecting it to be baked into the OS. Indeed, I was expecting to have to program it myself. However, the API in Windows Mobile provides no such support, so I can't even write an app to do it.

    That is what I find strange: not that it isn't built into the OS, but that it isn't built into the APIs.
    08-25-2015 07:46 PM
  21. Steve Thackery's Avatar
    OP:
    iOS - I am surprised you didn't mention the little fruit stand from Cupertino? That too doesn't have this feature.
    Yes it does!!
    08-25-2015 07:47 PM
  22. worldspy99's Avatar
    Yes it does. Let me tell you how to use iOS.

    Go Settings - Notifications - Messages - Repeat Alerts



    There you can set how many times it repeats every 2 minutes, up to 10 times.



    I wish we had this option, I liked it when I used an iPhone.

    Every 2 minutes x10 = 20 minutes about 100 minutes fewer than OP requirements...
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    08-25-2015 07:53 PM
  23. worldspy99's Avatar
    Yes it does!!

    See post above...
    08-25-2015 07:53 PM
  24. worldspy99's Avatar
    The key point is that Android's API provides support for the feature, which is all that's needed. I wasn't necessarily expecting it to be baked into the OS. Indeed, I was expecting to have to program it myself. However, the API in Windows Mobile provides no such support, so I can't even write an app to do it.

    That is what I find strange: not that it isn't built into the OS, but that it isn't built into the APIs.

    User Voice is your friend.
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    08-25-2015 07:54 PM
  25. travis_valkyrie's Avatar
    Personally, if the message is that dire, the sender will call or text repeatedly until you answer. That should be enough of a repetitive notification don't you think?
    OMG THANK YOU! I was just gonna say this.
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    08-25-2015 07:58 PM
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