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  1. qqp's Avatar
    well m tolerating windows 10 on pc but for mobile i cant tolerate it and can't go back to 8.1 as it feel so old, m stuck
    09-01-2015 12:11 AM
  2. ven07's Avatar
    well m tolerating windows 10 on pc but for mobile i cant tolerate it and can't go back to 8.1 as it feel so old, m stuck
    Then apparently you're tolerating it on mobile as well :p
    09-01-2015 12:15 AM
  3. chuckdaly's Avatar
    I've used W10 on my 1520 for about 3 months now, and I'm not in love with it. I just find too many task require more taps and touches than in 8.1. Plus the music app is unfinished, no mobile hotspot, and Bluetooth doesn't work with my band.
    09-01-2015 12:44 AM
  4. Ian_Superfly's Avatar
    I've used W10 on my 1520 for about 3 months now, and I'm not in love with it. I just find too many task require more taps and touches than in 8.1. Plus the music app is unfinished, no mobile hotspot, and Bluetooth doesn't work with my band.
    I feel the same.
    The "thing" about W10M seems to be that it shares more code with PC Windows than before but I do not see any huge customer benefits of this (more a less optimized, huge, partially lagging -system).

    But Microsoft, please prove me wrong (Before I go out and buy the coming iPhone 6S. I'll do it because I feel betrayed by Microsoft and I will then do my best to find alternatives to Office, OneNote, etc. Microsoft has had so many chances but strangely managed to blow them all at the expense of their loyal customers. Enough is enough)!
    Last edited by Ian_Superfly; 09-01-2015 at 03:14 AM.
    09-01-2015 03:03 AM
  5. Ashutosh John's Avatar
    I am also using 925 build 166 , my freezes during long calls and installing app from the store is huge task , other than that i am happy with windows 10 !! I don't play games or use too many apps so its fine for me !! I think you should have hardrest the phone after installing w10
    09-01-2015 07:37 AM
  6. DoDeH1's Avatar
    I have the same opinion. I used W10 on my 920 for about 3 months and as good it is at the beginning as worst it gets during use (after 2, 3 weeks of using). It becomes unusable.
    I rolled back to 8.1 and whoaaau. What a nice feeling.
    09-01-2015 08:51 AM
  7. ads13's Avatar
    IDK why people are having so many problems. My apps open at alright speeds, and I rarely have to wait more than 3-4 seconds for them. Even store (which was terrible, like 10 sec wait) opens nearly instantly now. Are you on the newest build?
    If I'll update OS to 10phone then will it delete my all data and games /apps like asphalt????
    09-01-2015 10:36 AM
  8. colinkiama's Avatar
    If I'll update OS to 10phone then will it delete my all data and games /apps like asphalt????
    No
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    09-01-2015 10:39 AM
  9. Amit Mishra3's Avatar
    Even I rolled back to 8.1 after seeing this thread. I was fed up of lags n bugs in my primary L620. THING IS I'VE SEEN WHAT WIN10 IS LIKE N I CAN WAIT FOR OFFICIAL RELEASE NOW.
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    09-01-2015 10:55 AM
  10. Amit Mishra3's Avatar
    If I'll update OS to 10phone then will it delete my all data and games /apps like asphalt????
    No but for better performance hard reset is recommended... But don't worry it ain't worth it... If its ur primary phone u will endure problems for few weeks but ultimately return to 8.1 like me.
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    09-01-2015 11:16 AM
  11. Aswin Rajan's Avatar
    quick qn... was the performance terrible after a hard reset.. i know its not the best builds for a daily driver..
    but i was about to give up on w10 for all the same reasons.. lags.. resumes.. bugs.. battery etc etc..and this is on a 930!!
    Then i thought why not try a hard reset, after all even if i goto 8.1 it'll be a hard reset. (you see i could never do a hard reset, till the current build on w10, since my work email uses MDM to auto configure, and that would not work from a clean state.. so i'd to configure it on 8.1 and then upgrade to 10).
    but ever since i did a hard reset all is well.. no lags.. i get great battery life.. earlier it'd goto 40% battery by 4-5pm.. now it reaches tat stage by 9-10pm. and i am a power user, emails on push, whatsapp, telegram etc etc..

    so just asking...
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    09-01-2015 03:17 PM
  12. ven07's Avatar
    quick qn... was the performance terrible after a hard reset.. i know its not the best builds for a daily driver..
    but i was about to give up on w10 for all the same reasons.. lags.. resumes.. bugs.. battery etc etc..and this is on a 930!!
    Then i thought why not try a hard reset, after all even if i goto 8.1 it'll be a hard reset. (you see i could never do a hard reset, till the current build on w10, since my work email uses MDM to auto configure, and that would not work from a clean state.. so i'd to configure it on 8.1 and then upgrade to 10).
    but ever since i did a hard reset all is well.. no lags.. i get great battery life.. earlier it'd goto 40% battery by 4-5pm.. now it reaches tat stage by 9-10pm. and i am a power user, emails on push, whatsapp, telegram etc etc..

    so just asking...
    The problem is that even with a hard reset not all users are experiencing the same.. For some it's worse when compared to someone else or a different device.. We do recommend hard resetting after every update
    Chris Sandiford likes this.
    09-01-2015 03:50 PM
  13. Chris Sandiford's Avatar
    quick qn... was the performance terrible after a hard reset.. i know its not the best builds for a daily driver..
    but i was about to give up on w10 for all the same reasons.. lags.. resumes.. bugs.. battery etc etc..and this is on a 930!!
    Then i thought why not try a hard reset, after all even if i goto 8.1 it'll be a hard reset. (you see i could never do a hard reset, till the current build on w10, since my work email uses MDM to auto configure, and that would not work from a clean state.. so i'd to configure it on 8.1 and then upgrade to 10).
    but ever since i did a hard reset all is well.. no lags.. i get great battery life.. earlier it'd goto 40% battery by 4-5pm.. now it reaches tat stage by 9-10pm. and i am a power user, emails on push, whatsapp, telegram etc etc..

    so just asking...
    In a word, yes. I tried it both ways. After the Rubino article about the advantages of hard resetting I tried that and it was no better. I had separate bad experiences aside from the W10 stability with apps not reinstalling properly, but aside from that W10 eventually got worse again to where I am now. I reckon if you hard reset and deleted everything you'd be good to go but once you start clogging up your phone with apps potentially not optimized for W10 you'll start to suffer. Which is why there is so much variance in user experience IMO.
    09-02-2015 03:29 AM
  14. Chris Sandiford's Avatar
    I did. I think your statement "I don't play games or use too many apps so its fine for me" is key. The more you load your phone the worse it gets.
    09-02-2015 03:31 AM
  15. Chris Sandiford's Avatar
    Microsoft is next black berry .... i have lumia 1520 and did installed W10 but end up hating so much that now i have taken a cheap andriod phone as my primery phone and preety happy with it.... W10 really sucks i understand it is in still testing but how long ? microsoft would eventually kill windows phone and bored of this build concept .... would not even come out with flag ship phone and it clearly show something is wrong ...
    You're wrong on several fronts and to bash and give up on a pre-release OS is churlish and impatient. This thread wasn't another "slag off W10" thread it was a positive spin on rolling back.

    I have faith in W10 and like it and rather like driving and being disappointed with a new Ferrari when it's only half-sprayed with a Honda engine in it, I'd rather wait for the finished machine.
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    09-02-2015 03:36 AM
  16. fekish's Avatar
    If the managed to get rid of the lags: Loading.... and Resuming... would be perfect! :)
    09-02-2015 07:25 AM
  17. Jason Gilbert's Avatar
    Yes, I had the exact same experience on my 830. I had used W10 from the beginning and generally liked it, but I couldn't live without mobile hotspot so I went back to 8.1 I like the visuals in W10 better, but switching back reminded me just how smooth 8.1 is. Also, in terms of functionality, I don't think that W10 adds much on the front end. I understand that it puts the OS on the same footing as W10 for tablets and PCs, and I understand why that's important for Microsoft's strategy, but I honestly feel like the dirty little secret is that WP 8.1 was already pretty good and that W10 doesn't add that much to it besides some new visuals and better integration with the other platforms. It's a big deal for the desktop crowd, but mobile? Not so much.

    I like Windows on my phone and I'll continue to stick with it as long as I feel like it's a viable OS that will be adequately supported. I think I get iOS levels of design expertise with Android-like power and flexibility (hey, look, a real file system!), MS hardware is top-notch at low prices (the 640 for $80 is a steal), and I like have "real" Office on my phone. I hope MS has something something coming up this fall that will just knock everyone's socks off.

    BUT (and you knew there was "but" coming, didn't you?), I do see some worrying signs that it's headed for Blackberry territory. I think that reading between the lines MS put the Windows group on notice that they have until sometime in 2016 to move the needle in a significant way on Windows mobile adoption, and I haven't seen any evidence that the needle is moving. I was surprised when T-mobile dropped the 640. People have been screaming for a decent Windows phone on T-Mob for a long time and they finally got one. (Yeah, I know, it's not the solar-powered Lumia 1030 you've all been waiting for, but it's cheap, colorful, and and it works well.) If it was a simple supply-and-demand problem they could have reduced the price to match AT&T at $80. Instead they dropped it, which makes me think that they just didn't see any hope for it. I think there's been too many delays, too much bad press, and while I think WP is better than iOS or Android, I'm not sure that it's so much better that most people are willing to give up what they're already attached to.

    My 830 will serve me well for a while yet to come (hello replaceable battery and MicroSD card), and a 950 XL will be very tempting, particularly if there is some Continuum magic that lets me plug it into an adapter and turn it into a for-real desktop. But I'm realistic enough to see the warning signs, and if things go downhill quickly there are some compelling budget priced Android phones out there, too.

    Well, this went on longer than I intended. Also, FFS, will someone PLEASE fix the Netflix app for the 830?

    That is all.
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    09-02-2015 10:09 AM
  18. yardmanflex's Avatar
    What a load of crap..ur complaining about a unfinished OS..your not a dev so u don't need to be using win 10 at this point. Worse as ur daily driver...that just dumb.
    09-02-2015 11:14 AM
  19. jhildy73's Avatar
    I put it on my L640, had it on for a day and went back to 8.1, It seemed very sluggish to me. Like android sluggish which never happened on 8.1
    Did the same....had it for a day and went back..apps where crashing and as it WAS fast it did randomly lag.
    09-02-2015 11:23 AM
  20. Chris Sandiford's Avatar
    What a load of crap..ur complaining about a unfinished OS..your not a dev so u don't need to be using win 10 at this point. Worse as ur daily driver...that just dumb.
    Me? You're not specific in your mindless ranting.
    09-02-2015 11:39 AM
  21. fekish's Avatar
    Unfortunately today realised that Fitbit does not connect with Windows 10. Here we go again with a rollback...
    09-02-2015 02:13 PM
  22. ajj3085's Avatar
    I suspect its slow because its a debug build which isn't optimized and has a lot of assertions. Release build will be optimized.
    09-02-2015 06:48 PM
  23. pramodkumarca's Avatar
    I suspect its slow because its a debug build which isn't optimized and has a lot of assertions. Release build will be optimized.
    but when ....end of this century?
    09-02-2015 07:21 PM
  24. ajj3085's Avatar
    but when ....end of this century?
    How should i know? its easier to figure out how to fix things with debug builds, so when they are done fixing the bugs they want to fix.
    09-02-2015 07:25 PM
  25. erichunt's Avatar
    First let me preface that I am aware this is a unfinished, preview OS. With that said... I too rolled back to 8.1 after months of struggling with the latest 166 and 512 builds.

    I will say that the developers have been doing a great job and bringing Windows 10 Mobile up to snuff, but its the little things that pushed me away. The two second delay for the clock and notifications to show up when pressing the power button, come on guys really? Its not like this is an alpha build, why are we reinventing the wheel and breaking solid components this late in the game?

    Loading........

    Other things like photos not auto-uploading to OneDrive... which was once an easy task in 8.1 is utterly broken in 10. Having to manually upload photos to OneDrive is taking the "smart" out of this phone. Even with setting this up in OneDrive, I could not get one photo to upload with success. Yes I know that it's a preview app on a preview build (and I am sure it will be fixed at some point), but its a serious flaw that would prevent me from upgrading to 10 in the future if not corrected.

    Resuming....

    Another item keeping me from using Windows 10 Mobile is how they handled sharing content like photos or videos. In Windows 8.1, you could easily share a photo or video and it would auto-compress the media based on how you were going to share it. In Windows 10, good luck sharing your uncompressed 72 meg video file by email.... I would have to manually set the encoding before recording a video or grab the video over USB, upload to OneDrive and share uncompressed. I would rather "set it and forget it" (Ronco-style), leaving me the option to auto-compress later when shared. This missing feature is a deal-breaker coming from 8.1, and sadly if they don't plan to implement the full 8.1 feature-set into Windows 10 Mobile... I can't justify upgrading. I personally do this so often I couldn't bear using 10 any longer.

    There are several other issues I encountered like SIM issues (losing mobile data), battery drains, random crashing, videos stutter during recording, unresponsive touch screen input, pinned websites redirect to the number 3 in bing search, app installation loops, and live tiles not updating. Just some of the few issues encountered over the past two builds, all of which I submitted feedback for. I experienced enough issues to seriously make me worry about the finalized version we'll actually end up. Thus also made me start thinking seriously about other platforms.

    Then I snapped out of it, continue to tell myself "its just a preview build, its just a preview build... right?"
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    09-02-2015 11:24 PM
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