01-27-2017 09:47 PM
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  1. greedo_greedy's Avatar
    Hey folks,

    Back in 8.1 if you're obsessive compulsive like me, we would habitually close apps by pressing the back button or swiping the app down to close it. LOL!!

    I have observed that simple apps like Calculator, Alarms & Clock in Windows 10 now have a splash screen.
    In 8.1 the only built in app that had a splash screen was Calendar and Battery Saver.

    Watching the splash screen for a second or two does add up and I have observed that if I leave the app suspended, it actually almost instantly resumes than if I manually close it.

    So now I'm training myself to not habitually close apps so that I don't have to deal with the splash screen. Takes a little getting used to.
    Right now, the only apps I leave suspended are Messaging, People, OneNote, Calculator, Alarms & Clock, Outlook Calendar and Settings.

    There is no negative impact to performance in my experience of using W10M for about a month now.

    I hope MS can iron out launching of apps to the point where it's as fast as the Calendar app in 8.1
    Here's hoping.

    I do wish However, that MS will make the back button actually close the app and the Windows button suspend the app.
    Last edited by greedo_greedy; 09-24-2015 at 06:29 AM.
    Alfa Kapa likes this.
    09-22-2015 04:51 AM
  2. M7H's Avatar
    Closing apps from the memory, is sooooo Android!

    Windows Phone 10, will only allow a maximum of around 10 apps in the background, and actually, they are doing nothing!
    Just don't close them, and you will benifit of the fact that the apps you use most, will start-up fastest.
    09-22-2015 04:59 AM
  3. greedo_greedy's Avatar
    I know for a fact that they don't really do anything when it is suspended. I'm just talking about me being obsessive compulsive. I want it to not be there.

    Lol 😁
    k72 and Rosebank like this.
    09-22-2015 06:39 AM
  4. Ivan05il's Avatar
    They still sit in a memory. I noticed on several occasions, although it was 10512, that when I could not open an app or even a setting, it helped to kick out those suspended apps and I could open the app. My interpretation is that OS would not kick them out when it had not enough memory to proceed with the new app.
    Rosebank likes this.
    09-22-2015 07:28 AM
  5. Pete's Avatar
    Yes, I've noticed a little bit of performance hit if I have too many apps open on my 1520. Normally closing all the apps restores the snappiness.

    However, each build gives more stability and performance.
    ven07 likes this.
    09-22-2015 07:52 AM
  6. 920Walker's Avatar
    I don't use any of the car dashboard apps when driving so hate a cluttered group of apps in the background. It's easier to switch between one Gps map app and one music app than swiping through multiple apps. Unfortunately searching for a place using Cortana before driving sometimes opens up multiple apps for each step in getting to the destination Gps app, so gotta close those.

    Yes, my remote controls on the coffee table must be perfectly aligned and in their correct spots.
    09-22-2015 08:03 AM
  7. Ma Rio's Avatar
    Yeah that's impossible for me. I'm hard wired to close all apps, got used to do it from all the OSes I had before. Even if it doesn't affect battery and performance at all I just can't leave them.
    09-22-2015 07:10 PM
  8. Paolo Ferrazza's Avatar
    I do wish However, that MS will make the back button actually close the app and the Windows button suspend the app.
    This would be a mistake, it was like this in 8.0 and changed in 8.1. It was like that in 8.0 because there was no other way to close the app.
    09-23-2015 05:13 AM
  9. Cryio's Avatar
    Performance wasn't affected back in WP7.x and WP8.0. There is a noticeable performance drop off you don't close old apps on WP8.1 and especially in the current builds of W10M.
    Kram Sacul likes this.
    09-23-2015 05:50 AM
  10. michail71's Avatar
    In the latest build they seem to stay running even if you close them.
    09-23-2015 07:00 AM
  11. Ivan05il's Avatar
    This would be a mistake, it was like this in 8.0 and changed in 8.1. It was like that in 8.0 because there was no other way to close the app.
    But you had an easy way to close the currently running app if you were done with it (back button) and you had a way to keep it suspended (Windows button). Now both will do the same. How is that better?
    09-23-2015 10:32 AM
  12. Paolo Ferrazza's Avatar
    But you had an easy way to close the currently running app if you were done with it (back button) and you had a way to keep it suspended (Windows button). Now both will do the same. How is that better?
    It is better in the way that users will understand (sooner or later) that closing apps makes no sense so it should be discouraged. Educating users is important in my opinion. If you want to close an app just keep back pressed instead of pressing it N times, it is faster, or as fast, anyways.
    09-23-2015 10:39 AM
  13. Alfa Kapa's Avatar
    I have the same illness dude.. :/
    It's called android closing-all-apps syndrome!

    I'm also trying to let the apps without closing them but I simply can't!
    I'm closing 1 year and a couple of months away from Android and I simply can't help it but close any app presented in the app switcher..

    Instead of pressing the win key or back button repeatedly, I kinda long press the back button for 1 and something second, releasing my finger before the animation appear and instantly swiping downwards..! (in other words catching the app before zooming out on the app switcher) :/

    I swear I'm trying to just let the apps rest in the app switcher but it is impossible :(
    My friend got an iPhone 6 last month and he is already able to get over the android closing-all-apps syndrome!
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    09-23-2015 11:58 AM
  14. Ivan05il's Avatar
    It is better in the way that users will understand (sooner or later) that closing apps makes no sense so it should be discouraged. Educating users is important in my opinion. If you want to close an app just keep back pressed instead of pressing it N times, it is faster, or as fast, anyways.
    It is not faster if you have to search for it among ten other apps which I end up closing anyway. Because if I don't I cannot open another app, because there's a bug in OS that prevents the suspended apps from being closed automatically when needed. And yes, I still prefer it the old way.
    920Walker likes this.
    09-23-2015 12:12 PM
  15. erfanjafar's Avatar
    In the latest build they seem to stay running even if you close them.
    Noticed the same.
    09-23-2015 12:40 PM
  16. erfanjafar's Avatar
    I have the same illness dude.. :/
    It's called android closing-all-apps syndrome!

    I'm also trying to let the apps without closing them but I simply can't!
    I'm closing 1 year and a couple of months away from Android and I simply can't help it but close any app presented in the app switcher..

    Instead of pressing the win key or back button repeatedly, I kinda long press the back button for 1 and something second, releasing my finger before the animation appear and instantly swiping downwards..! (in other words catching the app before zooming out on the app switcher) :/

    I swear I'm trying to just let the apps rest in the app switcher but it is impossible :(
    My friend got an iPhone 6 last month and he is already able to get over the android closing-all-apps syndrome!
    I pledge to fight this "android closing-all-apps syndrome!" and let my apps live.
    Keith Wallace likes this.
    09-23-2015 12:43 PM
  17. Kram Sacul's Avatar
    It is better in the way that users will understand (sooner or later) that closing apps makes no sense so it should be discouraged. Educating users is important in my opinion. If you want to close an app just keep back pressed instead of pressing it N times, it is faster, or as fast, anyways.
    It was better in 8.0 update 3. Apps closed when you backed out of them but you still have the option of closing them manually in the task switcher. 8.1 screwed it up with this resuming nonsense.

    It's still completely idiotic for the calendar, calculator, etc to have a splash screen. In 8.0 they just opened. Remember when one of the most impressive things about WP was the fluidity?
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    09-23-2015 03:05 PM
  18. Qaiser Arslan's Avatar
    So you are saying it wont effect battery life and performance right.....????
    09-23-2015 03:43 PM
  19. Ma Rio's Avatar
    It's still completely idiotic for the calendar, calculator, etc to have a splash screen. In 8.0 they just opened. Remember when one of the most impressive things about WP was the fluidity?
    I just can't believe that we still don't have instant app opening without any splash or loading screens today. In the era where x64 octa-core processors are almost old tech we still have to wait for the most basic tasks. And as you mentioned, it's stupid because the apps are as basic as you can get. If calculator can't open instantly without a splash screen, what am I to expect from some multi-gigabyte games?
    Kram Sacul and white_Shadoww like this.
    09-23-2015 04:49 PM
  20. 920Walker's Avatar
    Multiple splash screens.
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    09-23-2015 05:15 PM
  21. michail71's Avatar
    So you are saying it wont effect battery life and performance right.....????
    The latest build actually doesn't close the apps. They will disappear from the list but if you hit back they are still there. Today my battery tanked and the phone was cooking so I had to do a reboot.

    Perhaps it was a background task and closing apps wouldn't have helped anyway.
    09-23-2015 08:26 PM
  22. rayf888's Avatar
    I always run into the situation that hitting the back button will end up trying to "bring back" one of the background app... Hence the infamous "Loading...." screen will hit me... And making me so obsessed with closing all the apps that I no longer use....

    Otherwise I'll have to hit the windows button everytime I try to get out of an app... No an ideal way of doing it I reckon...
    09-24-2015 02:34 AM
  23. Paolo Ferrazza's Avatar
    You all seem to be mixing multiple problems which does not have much to do with the close/suspend problem. If properly handled suspending the app should always be better.
    HaibaneReki likes this.
    09-24-2015 03:15 AM
  24. Ivan05il's Avatar
    BTW I don't mind being educated how to use my phone, but with every new version there's a new way of doing things. This is not that wild, but it's in more important things, too. What MS needs is a bit of continuity, not 'throw it all out, this is better, promise'. It's not good for the user and it's not good for the developer.
    09-24-2015 04:35 AM
  25. greedo_greedy's Avatar
    So you are saying it wont effect battery life and performance right.....????
    Theoretically it should not because when you press the back or even the Windows button, the app processes are "suspended".

    I'm using a Lumia 822 and in my experience, I do not see any negative impact to performance technically.
    If and when I do experience hiccups and crashes, I blame it on the app not yet fully optimized.

    I did experience battery drain sometimes and I think that it's a process that gets stuck which I hope MS irons out.
    Last edited by greedo_greedy; 09-24-2015 at 06:42 AM.
    09-24-2015 06:27 AM
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