1. iTomas's Avatar
    Hey, just installed win10 mobile build 10572, everything works just fine, except here drive+, it says (in store) that it's unavailable.. SysAPPpusher doesnt help either. any suggestions?
    10-21-2015 11:47 AM
  2. Paolo Ferrazza's Avatar
    HERE apps have been replaced by the official maps app. The maps are the same of old HERE app so you should not have issues.

    It can avoid traffic and has some very nice features too. It has improved a lot in the past months.

    Only Cortana voice at the moment but it is ok.
    10-21-2015 01:50 PM
  3. iTomas's Avatar
    Maps are not the same as here DRIVE+.... Sad...
    I dont like microsoft maps app.
    920Walker likes this.
    10-21-2015 02:52 PM
  4. rhapdog's Avatar
    There are 2 things that annoy me about the Microsoft Maps app, which I hope they will address in future updates fairly soon.
    1. Voice Navigation CANNOT be turned OFF! I like the map and directions, but do NOT want the voice. So easy in Here.
    2. The large banner at the top for the next turn is SO HUGE that you get very little map in landscape mode. I only use navigation in Landscape mode, and this is a deal breaker for me. Such a lot of wasted space that could be better utilized.

    Lucky for me, Here Drive + stayed installed, and I didn't do a hard reset afterward. Although I can't set it as the default map app (and mad about that), at least I have it. It can no longer be obtained from the store, so I'll have to be careful not to reset my device until something is done about it.
    920Walker likes this.
    10-21-2015 07:39 PM
  5. 920Walker's Avatar
    [QUOTE=rhapdog;3263796]There are 2 things that annoy me about the Microsoft Maps app, which I hope they will address in future updates fairly soon.
    1. Voice Navigation CANNOT be turned OFF! I like the map and directions, but do NOT want the voice. So easy in Here.
    2. The large banner at the top for the next turn is SO HUGE that you get very little map in landscape mode. I only use navigation in Landscape mode, and this is a deal breaker for me. Such a lot of wasted space that could be better utilized.

    Lucky for me, Here Drive + stayed installed, and I didn't do a hard reset afterward. Although I can't set it as the default map app (and mad about that), at least I have it. It can no longer be obtained from the store, so I'll have to be careful not to reset my device until something is done about it.[/QUOTE

    1) I don't mind voice on, but it should be an option. Need a British or Aussie female voice though.

    2) I feel like Geordi La Forge looking at that map sliver. Good thing I have full sight of the whole road and surroundings.

    3) No options for different types of routes or avoidances.

    4) Needs waypoints. Show me a gas station on my current route or very nearby. Let Cortana add waypoints if I ask her for a nearby restaurant and decide on one. Garmin was doing this 10 years ago. If it can't be done due to patents find a workaround.

    I too still have HERE Drive+ after the update so happy for now. If only it could be set as default with Cortana with W10. Have to leave HD+ in online mode and type to search or copy and paste directions manually.

    Edit: I'm referring to the new Maps app in 1-4. Long live HERE Drive+
    Last edited by 920Walker; 10-22-2015 at 09:55 AM.
    10-21-2015 08:12 PM
  6. snakebitten's Avatar
    Here Maps & Here Drive are both working on my throwdown 640. (10572)
    And I did do a hard reset after loading build.
    I'm a fan of Here apps. I don't despise the native maps, but find Nokia's maps better personally.
    Maybe as W10 matures, things will change for me.
    vEEP pEEP likes this.
    10-21-2015 09:00 PM
  7. Peter McNeill1's Avatar
    My biggest beef is they are not updated. If I use google maps, all the stores, resturants etc that are newly opened, they are there. Use Here or MS maps and they are old... heh, MS maps shows pizza places by me that closed over 4 yrs ago. It's sad and I hope they get their act together.
    10-21-2015 09:57 PM
  8. vEEP pEEP's Avatar
    I'd still prefer HERE maps. But why don't we have a choice. Why did they stop making it for WP when it used to exist?

    Is the Nokia MS fallout - and the consumer gets burnt?

    Mr. V
    10-21-2015 10:10 PM
  9. iTomas's Avatar
    Maybe if i would do hard reset here drive+ will apper or not?
    10-22-2015 01:09 AM
  10. mjyumping's Avatar
    Yeah, I know the Here Apps are working in this build. It's just that you cannot update those apps on the store an error code pops up, and you also can't find it on a Store search. Same as with the Glance screen app.
    zapppa83 likes this.
    10-22-2015 01:20 AM
  11. anon(3463402)'s Avatar
    1. Voice Navigation CANNOT be turned OFF
    2. The large banner at the top for the next turn is SO HUGE
    Send them Feedback. ;)
    Here Maps & Here Drive are both working on my throwdown 640. (10572)
    And I did do a hard reset after loading build.
    Same here.

    I'm optimistic about Microsoft Maps, it's getting better and better, and IMO it's good replacement for Here apps.
    10-22-2015 05:29 AM
  12. rhapdog's Avatar
    Send them Feedback. ;)
    I always do. Part of being an Insider as far as I'm concerned.
    10-22-2015 07:50 AM
  13. rhapdog's Avatar
    I'd still prefer HERE maps. But why don't we have a choice. Why did they stop making it for WP when it used to exist?

    Is the Nokia MS fallout - and the consumer gets burnt?

    Mr. V
    It hasn't been stopped. It is actually in the store. I was able to obtain a direct link to the store on my phone and located it. However, there is a message stating, "This app has been blocked due to company policy."

    After some thought on this, I have come to the realization that this is an Insider Preview, and we agreed that we would test things for Microsoft. No one would test the Microsoft Maps if we were still using Here. So, what is happening, is that I believe it will be available again later, but we must test the new Maps program and help them to improve it.

    And as far as not being able to turn off the voice, I have learned as of this morning (when I discovered it in a "duh!" moment), that if you press the ellipses at the bottom, it gives the option to "mute" the voice. I'm happy now except for the narrow view in landscape mode, which I have sent feedback concerning this.
    Chintan Gohel and rxc13 like this.
    10-22-2015 08:24 AM
  14. Ixia's Avatar
    I'm on 8.1 and not Insider Preview. Here is completely missing from the UK store. I still have it installed, but it doesn't seem to have relevant up to date traffic info.
    10-22-2015 08:33 AM
  15. leehab's Avatar
    Maps is no match for HERE+ . Maps is inferior in every aspect . Text is too small and arrow on very top also too thin . Navigations is not something you can build in couple of years . It takes years and years . Navigation has to be Simple & Readable at a " glance " because that is the time a driver has .

    Look at Sygic & HERE+ and you see everything Bold and easy . I hope HERE+ is updated and an option for us . Maps at current state is useless .
    920Walker and iTomas like this.
    10-22-2015 09:36 AM
  16. coja77's Avatar
    Any news about availability of HERE Drive+ and HERE Maps on build 10586?
    HERE Drive+ is very important app for me on my Lumia 1520, so to lose it for the sake of W10...Nope
    11-19-2015 04:07 AM
  17. Christian Holzer's Avatar
    How to use Here Drive+ on latest W10 builds
    1. Restore your phone to WP8.1 using the windows tool
    2. install all the apps you want to use (like Here Drive+)
    3. install latest W10 build
    4. now you can still use Here Drive+
    coja77 likes this.
    11-19-2015 04:31 AM
  18. coja77's Avatar
    Thanks Christian. After hard reset (after install of 10586) are they still going to be in the list of installed programs?
    11-19-2015 06:04 AM
  19. Maurizio Troso's Avatar
    I've just update my 520. The Here buquet is on the phone and has just successfullhy updated from store.
    MAH!
    coja77 likes this.
    11-19-2015 06:08 AM
  20. Christian Holzer's Avatar
    Thanks Christian. After hard reset (after install of 10586) are they still going to be in the list of installed programs?
    I can use Here Drive+ just fine now after I followed that procedure. :)
    11-19-2015 08:19 AM
  21. beachedwhale42's Avatar
    I think the key is the downgrade to 8.1, then the upgrade to 10586. The HERE and Lumia apps were downloadable on 10581, but alas, no more. I still prefer HERE Drive+ to Maps, and I miss Lumia Panorama, but whatever....life will go on. I think. Maybe they'll fix it.
    11-19-2015 08:24 AM

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