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  1. Paolo Ferrazza's Avatar
    I would like to read an explanation once, because I did not yet see any idea of a proof for this mantra. You quick explanation describes multitasking. Indeed, if I work with multiple apps at the same time, it is good practice to keep them open. But I am talking about tasks I am finished with. Why should I keep them open blocking resources of the device and destroying overview in the task view, hindering me from working effectively with multiple apps I actually want to use at that time? It is fine that Windows handles paused tasks better than other systems though.
    Nope, after some seconds the app is suspended so it has nothing to do with multitasking. The app stops running but its image is kept in memory. Resuming from memory if you switch back to it is much faster (unless the developer put some logics in resuming code). On the other hand if the system needs memory for an app you are using it will unload the oldest suspended image from memory.

    This is not Android, you do not need to manage resources :) From how you write you think about windows desktop or android, this is different.

    And about "destroying my task view", apps are ordered by the OS by most recently used if I'm correct so your mostly used apps will always be on top.
    10-30-2015 06:13 AM
  2. indospot's Avatar
    Using the new build for a couple hours now. Been loving it, really fast and smooth. I will post here all the feedback I've sent to MS later.
    10-30-2015 06:20 AM
  3. Athanville's Avatar
    has anyone noticed you can change the keyboard color for quick replies on the lockscreen? that black keyboard though looks killer
    10-30-2015 06:21 AM
  4. Andreja Dodov's Avatar
    Lumia 1020
    The phone is much more responsive.
    The only annoying bugs i have found are:
    - Wifi, cant connect to new wifi if Wifi Sense is ON. Yoou must turn it off and then it is ok. after connecting, you can return WiFi sens On again.
    - Notifications are not synced quite well
    - The dialer in "smart dial" mode is very very very slow. You have to press numbers slowly so the dialer don't forget some presses.
    - glance screen and weather don't cooperate :)

    that is for now.
    10-30-2015 06:24 AM
  5. Synth_FG's Avatar
    Like the build, fells almost complete,
    Still have the issue with the hotspot connection dying when the screen locks on the device which is very annoying
    10-30-2015 06:28 AM
  6. Bearach's Avatar
    Yes, it was broken. Thanks for noticing, because others thought I was the only one... But, yeah, it works now.
    I don't think that was the issue. I think it was your usage of notifications and live tiles that caused people to respond the way they did. Everyone, rightfully I might add, assumed you meant all. If you had stated it was only WhatsApp, Facebook and the other application you were using, you wouldn't have received so many comments saying it worked.

    After the last build, I thought I would take some time before giving any feedback. I deliberately went back to 8.1, as I hoped it would help in the 8.1 > 10 transition feedback.

    All this is on a Lumia 930 CVGB IE

    - Lumia Camera still doesn't work for recording video.
    - Storage, as stated in the release notes, is quite "borked" in this release.
    - Groove is somewhat flaky for me sometimes.
    - Insider Hub is completely missing on my device, I'm guessing this is an issue a few are facing.
    - Motion Data has an update and won't finish updating. The failed update, I assume, has caused the application to stop opening. It was prior to the update attempt.
    - Hey Cortana works perfectly for me.
    - Photos are okay, with no real issues. Though, I'm doing some testing with "Living Images" on/off now.
    - Speed seems slightly better than previous build. Less resuming, thus far.
    - SMS messages, unlike previous build, have not actually appeared this time for me.
    - Messaging settings has more options. Mainly to do with chat.
    - The one-handed message that appears, is temporary like in previous build.
    - Messaging's Skype contact sync was better this time, with their names, instead of Skype username, being synced.
    - Someone said they were unable to change the third action on the notification shade. I can confirm, on my device, it works as intended.
    - The Store updated and installed applications much better this time, than the previous build. I could leave it to update.
    - Battery life has become better again, the previous build was "okay" for me.
    - Not really much has changed from previous build, from what I can see.
    - When using Microsoft Camera, and a message comes through, I am able to initiate the reply within the notification but the keyboard never shows.
    - Store "My Library" is a little smoother than previous build. Also, it took a shorter amount of time to become smooth. It still needs work though.
    - The application list, so far, hasn't got a little "stuck" once I scrolled to the bottom. Unlike the previous build.
    - Data connection seems more reliable.
    - Edge is faster; possibly due to a more reliable data connection.
    - App list doesn't "dim" sometimes.
    - Start in the task viewer has no icon. Just a grey box.

    Will continue to update and give feedback when I can.
    Last edited by Bearach; 10-30-2015 at 08:53 AM.
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    10-30-2015 06:31 AM
  7. KimRM's Avatar
    It's fast and fluid on my 830. Still has some crashes here and there, but feels real close to RTM now.
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    10-30-2015 06:37 AM
  8. Darth litku's Avatar
    Buttery smooth in my L830, the only issue is the camera but immediately solved by just restarting the phobe
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    10-30-2015 06:40 AM
  9. 12ColourPencils's Avatar
    Installed on Lumia 635, did a hard reset. Skype Messaging and Skype Video contacts no long sync. Unable to add or search skype contacts.

    Somehow feels like previous build 10572 is much smoother and faster, especially on launching apps. "Loading" "Resuming" issue seems to be fixed. Insider Hub app is missing. MS Edge favourites no long sync from PC. All my favourites gone.
    Last edited by 12ColourPencils; 10-30-2015 at 07:01 AM.
    10-30-2015 06:45 AM
  10. Nejcooo's Avatar
    My Hong Kong 920 got rekt by error. Only solution was to use win recovery tool and start all over from 8.1. Camera is fixed, but does anyone has storage problems? Storage in settings won't load correctly, I can't access graphs that show what thakes up space
    10-30-2015 06:50 AM
  11. winboy's Avatar
    Hey Cortana and Motion Data still do not work on my 1520.
    10-30-2015 06:53 AM
  12. gabi tanase's Avatar
    My Hong Kong 920 got rekt by error. Only solution was to use win recovery tool and start all over from 8.1. Camera is fixed, but does anyone has storage problems? Storage in settings won't load correctly, I can't access graphs that show what thakes up space
    10-30-2015 06:55 AM
  13. knuthakon's Avatar
    Any issues with restoring sms messages after hard reset?
    10-30-2015 06:57 AM
  14. Maurizio Troso's Avatar
    My Hong Kong 920 got rekt by error. Only solution was to use win recovery tool and start all over from 8.1. Camera is fixed, but does anyone has storage problems? Storage in settings won't load correctly, I can't access graphs that show what thakes up space
    Read Gabe's blog, he warned about the storage settings bug
    10-30-2015 06:57 AM
  15. potter007's Avatar
    Does anyone else have a problem of not being able to swipe away the bottom notification bar when using apps?
    Yeah I have the same issue.. But on 10572
    10-30-2015 06:59 AM
  16. txkimmers's Avatar
    Last night I decided to just go ahead and get it done for my 640; up to now, it was only on my failing 925. I didn't do a hard reset, just the updates and left the phone alone to do its thing and I gotta say....it was a totally smooth and problem free upgrade! Everything is in place and working great, I am so pleased.
    Last edited by txkimmers; 10-30-2015 at 10:37 AM.
    10-30-2015 07:02 AM
  17. renatos's Avatar
    Do you suggest doing a Hard Reset? Lumia 730 owner here. I ' m just too lazy to reconfigure everything from the beginning , plus I don't want to lose all my wifi passwords that are already saved on the phone.

    Thanks
    10-30-2015 07:05 AM
  18. NoogMan9605's Avatar
    Any issues with restoring sms messages after hard reset?
    14 hours on mine.......haven't gotten a single message to restore, don't know what's up with that.....really irritated about it.
    10-30-2015 07:10 AM
  19. Alfa Kapa's Avatar
    Yeah those 2 last builds bring the OS from the bumpy back roads to the decent boulevard and heading straight to the RTM highway!
    Still some bugs here and there but overall it is smooth sailing on a 730!
    I've got to say that the transition from the lockscreen to your start/opened app is the best thus far..

    I'll be this guy who is not satisfied by the overall battery life..
    Don't get me wrong the battery life is close to 1:1 with WP8.1 for your average use,
    but I see bigger consumption while doing simple tasks throughout the OS.
    Also sometimes the battery percentage doesn't go down at all and after locking it and checking for example just the time and a mail,
    it could go easily 2-6% down.
    But the most weird part is when you are watching videos (perfect tube, tubcast, etc) the drop is way less than on WP8.1 .
    It can last 15-16 hours with regular usage but it is not like on WP8.1 where you knew that no matter what, It could last for 20+ hours..

    Having said that, it still is a huge improvement from build 10549 and slightly better than 10572!
    And also the ''core'' apps are opening in 2 seconds or less on the cr*ppy SD400 which is looking as good as it would be.
    10-30-2015 07:12 AM
  20. Aldrich Uyliong's Avatar
    Lumia 1520.
    - At first apps took longer to open than on 10572 but after a while Build 10581 got comfortable enough and apps started loading as fast as in Daniel Rubino's video review.
    - Hey Cortana is now working but I am unable to train her.
    - Those worried about the SD card issue can rest knowing the files in the SD card can still be accessed via File Explorer app.
    - I haven't been able to test out battery life improvements. Will get back tomorrow on that.
    10-30-2015 07:17 AM
  21. Dusan Randj's Avatar
    Working great. Butcan't hide nav bar in non-system apps.
    10-30-2015 07:17 AM
  22. knuthakon's Avatar
    14 hours on mine.......haven't gotten a single message to restore, don't know what's up with that.....really irritated about it.
    Had that same thing happe to me after a hard reset on 10572. Went back to 8.1, and upgraded to 10582. Heard people sucsessfully restore messages after hard reset, if you choose not to restore phone form previous back up, but instead start it "fresh". In fear of having it happen again, I think I'm staying here until a fix is available.
    10-30-2015 07:19 AM
  23. Kris Muylaert's Avatar
    Everything is working very fine, except I'm still missing text messages.
    Aparently the messages are on the phone, but the app seems not to show them.

    Reason I think they are on the phone is: with the 'Contact+message backup' app, the number of messages backed up is way higher the number of messages showing in the app.
    Anyone who can tell me how the reload all messages in the app?
    10-30-2015 07:23 AM
  24. Unauthorized's Avatar
    Nope, after some seconds the app is suspended so it has nothing to do with multitasking. The app stops running but its image is kept in memory. Resuming from memory if you switch back to it is much faster (unless the developer put some logics in resuming code). On the other hand if the system needs memory for an app you are using it will unload the oldest suspended image from memory.

    This is not Android, you do not need to manage resources :) From how you write you think about windows desktop or android, this is different.

    And about "destroying my task view", apps are ordered by the OS by most recently used if I'm correct so your mostly used apps will always be on top.
    I get what you are trying to say and I agree that resources are handled very efficiently by this OS. However, writing from the programmer's point of view, this is obviously still a task for the OS that costs resources - memory and more important: battery - unless it is completely magical. So it would be even more efficient if an app that is definitely not needed anymore would simply be unloaded. I could signalize this wish to the OS by using the back button and signalize that I am still using the app in the near future by using the Windows button. This always worked really good as I had control. It requires more steps now and simply seems to be messed up.
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    10-30-2015 07:24 AM
  25. Bearach's Avatar
    Some applications have been updated today:

    - Messaging + Skype
    - Outlook Mail and Calender
    - Facebook Beta
    - Microsoft Photos (WARNING: According to WMPoweruser, this update causes crashes in folder view. Update at own risk)

    EDIT: Thought I would be a Guinea Pig. They are correct, at least in my experience, the update does indeed crash as you swipe over to Folders view.
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    10-30-2015 07:26 AM
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