11-08-2015 09:06 PM
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  1. Ed Boland's Avatar
    Tonight, users of the Windows 10 Mobile Insider Preview finally got an update to the Microsoft Camera app that adds the long awaited slow motion function to video. The Microsoft Camera version number is 2015.1084.11.0

    Of course this is only available on certain phones; the Lumia 930, Icon, and 1520. I've seen in the comments on the original WC article, that HTC One M8 owners also have it working on their devices. We can be sure that the new 950/950XL will also have this feature.

    So far, the slow motion video is limited to 720p @120fps regardless of what you have your video resolution set to in the Camera app's settings.

    After you record a video with "slow motion on" and review the video in your camera roll, you'll then be able to tap on the video and select "edit slow motion", which takes you to the following video editing screen:

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    I know this is new, and Dan will probably have a new "hands on" video with instructions on how to use this, but has anyone figured out how to set exactly where you want the slow motion to be. I understand the slider at the top of the screen (regular speed to slow), but the main video scrubber is kinda vague in it's function. I know the top curser handle (the green handle) controls where the "slo mo" is, but how do you give it a start and end point?

    Discuss...
    11-05-2015 10:58 PM
  2. naeem151287's Avatar
    Been waiting a long time for this!
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    11-05-2015 11:18 PM
  3. Ed Boland's Avatar
    Been waiting a long time for this!
    Exactly. I hope with the new 950/950XL (and later) phones, we'll be able to record 240fps or more to compete with the iPhones. 120fps is a start.
    11-05-2015 11:38 PM
  4. vodda's Avatar
    Excellent news, very excited to use this feature during my training!

    But I seem to have an issue with editing the videos. It wont open the editor. Starts to load, but then it closes. Which app is used for editing, maybe I should reinstall it, etc?
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    11-06-2015 12:44 AM
  5. vodda's Avatar
    Figured it out; its the lumia moments app. Strange it does not open via "edit the slow motion" from the video itself, I have to manually look for the app, open it, and then open video within.

    Then I can edit it.
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    11-06-2015 12:53 AM
  6. Ed Boland's Avatar
    Excellent news, very excited to use this feature during my training!

    But I seem to have an issue with editing the videos. It wont open the editor. Starts to load, but then it closes. Which app is used for editing, maybe I should reinstall it, etc?
    Good question. It's the "Photos plug in" app I believe.
    11-06-2015 12:54 AM
  7. Ed Boland's Avatar
    Figured it out; its the lumia moments app. Strange it does not open via "edit the slow motion" from the video itself, I have to manually look for the app, open it, and then open video within.

    Then I can edit it.
    Odd. I don't have "Lumia Moments" installed.

    While on the slow motion edit screen, Tap the three Dot menu (...) and hit "about this app". Mine says it's the "Photos plug in" app.
    11-06-2015 12:57 AM
  8. Ed Boland's Avatar
    Figured it out; its the lumia moments app. Strange it does not open via "edit the slow motion" from the video itself, I have to manually look for the app, open it, and then open video within.

    Then I can edit it.
    Wait.. Are you on Win10 Mobile insider preview?
    11-06-2015 01:00 AM
  9. Chintan Gohel's Avatar
    I'm guessing this isn't available for Lumia 1020
    11-06-2015 01:03 AM
  10. vodda's Avatar
    Wait.. Are you on Win10 Mobile insider preview?
    Yes, the latest one.

    The photos plugin app its the app that keeps installing @ my store all the time. It completes then next time an update is available again...maybe I should remove lumia moments?
    11-06-2015 01:09 AM
  11. vodda's Avatar
    ...maybe I should remove lumia moments?
    This was it. After removing lumia moments everything is as it should be. I guess microsoft replaced lumia moments with "photos plugin app" which then failed to installed because I had lumia moments installed.
    11-06-2015 01:22 AM
  12. andyqkw's Avatar
    Updating the Microsoft Camera app breaks the Lumia Camera app.

    Lumia Camera now just loads and jumped back to the home screen.
    11-06-2015 05:37 AM
  13. Maurizio Troso's Avatar
    Updating the Microsoft Camera app breaks the Lumia Camera app.

    Lumia Camera now just loads and jumped back to the home screen.
    Lumia Camera app is going to be abandoned and removed
    11-06-2015 05:39 AM
  14. andyqkw's Avatar
    Lumia Camera app is going to be abandoned and removed
    Microsoft Camera still have a long way to go before it catches up to Lumia Camera, results have all been sub-par...
    11-06-2015 05:44 AM
  15. Ed Boland's Avatar
    Updating the Microsoft Camera app breaks the Lumia Camera app.

    Lumia Camera now just loads and jumped back to the home screen.
    Not true. I was just using both apps without issue on my 1520. Perhaps you just need to restart your phone?
    11-06-2015 07:55 AM
  16. Ma Rio's Avatar
    Been waiting for this for a long time. Finally we have it!

    has anyone figured out how to set exactly where you want the slow motion to be. I understand the slider at the top of the screen (regular speed to slow), but the main video scrubber is kinda vague in it's function. I know the top curser handle (the green handle) controls where the "slo mo" is, but how do you give it a start and end point?
    If you set the speed to slowest, then you can't change the duration of the slow-mo effect.
    If you set it to slow or slower (the first two steps) then you will get 2 handles that allow you to change the duration.
    While on the slowest, it will make an extreme slowdown for around 0.5 seconds before the mark, and from there continue at normal speed.
    My suggestion is that you leave the video unedited, and edit it on your PC. That is, if you want to make some good videos.
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    11-06-2015 08:09 AM
  17. rhapdog's Avatar
    Microsoft Camera still have a long way to go before it catches up to Lumia Camera, results have all been sub-par...
    What is missing still after today's update? There is now nothing in Lumia Camera that I can't do in Microsoft Camera as of today's update. Am I missing something?

    Not true. I was just using both apps without issue on my 1520. Perhaps you just need to restart your phone?
    Mine started doing this yesterday, even before the new camera update. Less than 24 hours ago, really. Even after restarting the phone, it won't load any longer. Must have been a "timer" kill switch in the last update to Lumia Camera or something. I can't see that really being done, but it won't load on my phone at all now. Glad it still works on yours, Ed.

    The only thing I was missing and needed Lumia Camera for, though, was when doing Rich Capture, I was unable to edit the best lighting in Photos or Microsoft Camera. as of today's update, I am now able to do that.
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    11-06-2015 08:11 AM
  18. OndrejBakan's Avatar
    Sample videos anyone, pretty please? :) I am now more tempted to change my Lumia 830 for Lumia 1520 or 930. For me there is no reason to get Lumia 950 now. All I wanted is slow motion.
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    11-06-2015 08:13 AM
  19. rhapdog's Avatar
    My suggestion is that you leave the video unedited, and edit it on your PC. That is, if you want to make some good videos.
    I agree. If you want to really produce quality videos, edit them on a capable PC. For people that want average quality just to upload to YouTube or to make for Vimeo or Facebook, the phone will be fine I think. So many people these days have a phone but not a PC.
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    11-06-2015 08:15 AM
  20. Ed Boland's Avatar
    Microsoft Camera still have a long way to go before it catches up to Lumia Camera, results have all been sub-par...
    How so? There's nothing magic about Lumia Camera that Microsoft doesn't have access to. Remember, they own it now. Both apps use the same camera hardware, and as far as the image processing and algorithms go, it's all in the code. It's simply a matter of copy and paste into their own app, and building on it from there to make it better. Also remember they have one of the senior imaging gurus from Nokia that created Lumia Camera now working for them...

    I've been using both apps on my 1520, and honestly can't tell the difference. I get stellar results with either one.
    11-06-2015 08:21 AM
  21. Ed Boland's Avatar
    Been waiting for this for a long time. Finally we have it!


    If you set the speed to slowest, then you can't change the duration of the slow-mo effect.
    If you set it to slow or slower (the first two steps) then you will get 2 handles that allow you to change the duration.
    While on the slowest, it will make an extreme slowdown for around 0.5 seconds before the mark, and from there continue at normal speed.
    My suggestion is that you leave the video unedited, and edit it on your PC. That is, if you want to make some good videos.
    Thanks. this is good to point out as the editing screen has the speed set at the slowest (the turtle) by default.

    Care to share what you use to edit these slow motion vids on your PC with?
    11-06-2015 08:30 AM
  22. Ed Boland's Avatar
    What is missing still after today's update? There is now nothing in Lumia Camera that I can't do in Microsoft Camera as of today's update. Am I missing something?
    So far, the only thing that Microsoft Camera doesn't have that I can see, is in the video recording settings. Lumia Camera has options for the audio recording (surround sound recording) where Microsoft Camera doesn't have these settings (yet)

    Mine started doing this yesterday, even before the new camera update. Less than 24 hours ago, really. Even after restarting the phone, it won't load any longer. Must have been a "timer" kill switch in the last update to Lumia Camera or something. I can't see that really being done, but it won't load on my phone at all now. Glad it still works on yours, Ed.
    Yup, still working fine here on my 1520.
    11-06-2015 08:35 AM
  23. rhapdog's Avatar
    So far, the only thing that Microsoft Camera doesn't have that I can see, is in the video recording settings. Lumia Camera has options for the audio recording (surround sound recording) where Microsoft Camera doesn't have these settings (yet)
    So, I can't shoot my own 4K Movie in surround sound? What, I have to settle for stereo or mono? That's a deal breaker right there. I'm going back to my Sony FDR-AX1 camera then. (No, I don't have one of those, but if one of you people want to buy me one, I'll give you my address.)
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    11-06-2015 08:48 AM
  24. Ed Boland's Avatar
    Sample videos anyone, pretty please? :) I am now more tempted to change my Lumia 830 for Lumia 1520 or 930. For me there is no reason to get Lumia 950 now. All I wanted is slow motion.
    Here's a quick one I did of our dog Cody running down our hallway.

    *edited on phone, uploaded to YT via PC*



    So let's be honest here... Yes, it's great that we finally have slow motion capability on our phones, but if you've seen the 240fps slow motion on the newer iPhones, these 120fps slo mos leave much to be desired. Like I mentioned above, hopefully, this will evolve with the newer hardware, and we'll eventually be able to produce/record 240fps or more with outstanding results.
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    11-06-2015 09:18 AM
  25. Ma Rio's Avatar
    Care to share what you use to edit these slow motion vids on your PC with?
    Haha, well, I actually don't, but I just said that for someone that wants to edit them. The thing I wanted the most is normal 120 fps video, which I can then play at different speed (you can do this on many media-player apps, I use VLC).
    One thing I used it for is slowing down a video of me doing a front flip, and then looking at the posture mistakes I make, trying to understand and fix them.

    I've been using both apps on my 1520, and honestly can't tell the difference. I get stellar results with either one.
    IDK for you, but there's a noticeable difference in quality of the pictures for me. The functionc that the app itself provides are the same, even better with slow-mo now, however the quality is lower I think. Most of my pictures are really noisy/grainy.
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    11-06-2015 07:31 PM
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