12-18-2015 02:47 AM
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  1. Indistinguishable's Avatar
    At this point in my very long technology career, resetting/flashing/DFU'ing/whatever-ing and restoring mobile phones has become second nature to me. I never quite understand the near fear, panic and worry people demonstrate with doing these things - a hard reset and restore is mere muscle memory to me on iOS/Android/Windows Phone, as it is on a PC with regards to backing up and restoring with "Aomei Backupper" - one just calmly moves one's wrist, executes the long established muscle memory recall, taps a few times subconsciously and carries on with what they're doing at the same time. No big deal, just another day in technology - this is a routine just like washing your face or making coffee - no focused thought or excessive effort or ANY kind of "panic" required :)
    Why bother? The true test of the OS upgrade process is allowing a working phone to be updated (after all, finding bugs is the entire point of the "insider" program). If you have issues, THEN reset, would be my logical way of proceeding.
    http://forums.windowscentral.com/win...ml#post3297945



    Hah... I agree. Hard resets are the way to go.
    12-05-2015 11:18 AM
  2. slimchap's Avatar
    I wouldn't hard reset any of my device on Dev Preview again, after having to roll back to Windows Phone 8.1 before getting the 10586.
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    12-05-2015 11:37 AM
  3. DavidinCT's Avatar
    Sigh....Still cant Mute Cortana... I leave reading texts always on, on 8.1 I used to hit the power or volume down and it would quiet her when a text came in.... Still cant do this...I leave it on so when am driving she reads the texts. The only problem is when I am in a meeting or something, there is no way to mute her.

    It's the only thing that is keeping me on the fence about rolling back to 8.1...
    12-05-2015 11:42 AM
  4. gmfeld's Avatar
    Should my ATT 830 download and install automatically? I don't see any indication that it has, and when I check Updates in settings says I am current.
    12-05-2015 11:48 AM
  5. Long Syntax's Avatar
    Make sure you have insider app installed and fast ring set. Once that's done, yes, it will install from check updates
    12-05-2015 11:52 AM
  6. gmfeld's Avatar
    Sigh....Still cant Mute Cortana... I leave reading texts always on, on 8.1 I used to hit the power or volume down and it would quiet her when a text came in.... Still cant do this...I leave it on so when am driving she reads the texts. The only problem is when I am in a meeting or something, there is no way to mute her.

    It's the only thing that is keeping me on the fence about rolling back to 8.1...
    How do you get the phone to read texts out loud? I can't find that anywhere.
    12-05-2015 12:03 PM
  7. gmfeld's Avatar
    My phone says its up to date, I didn't see any download and install going on. Still on OS build 10586.11.
    12-05-2015 12:08 PM
  8. marpamcy's Avatar
    Just another normal night at my house...

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    Now that's a big family for you :)
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    12-05-2015 01:10 PM
  9. Maurizio Troso's Avatar
    Just another normal night at my house...

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    That's devotion. I respect you, sir
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    12-05-2015 01:20 PM
  10. lallen3's Avatar
    This update messed with my alarms again. My alarm from yesterday morning went off, even though it doesn't exist, no alarms do currently. Does this crap happen on the 950 and XL? I hard reset a few days ago because 586.11 had the same alarm issue driving me mad, then was fine after the hard reset when adding, changing, removing and testing alarms. Thanks for waking me at 4:30am MS. End rant. I didn't think a hard reset would be necessary after a minor update. Request for Alarms to be capable of uninstall and reinstall to fix issues added to Feedback.

    If you can't trust a simple alarm clock to work...
    We have the 950/950xl and I can confirm there are alarm issues. Indicator never goes away in action bar, and there are phantom alarms as well as difficulty making the tone change to anything but the default. We need and update, too.
    920Walker likes this.
    12-05-2015 02:25 PM
  11. Kevin Houle1's Avatar
    Sigh....Still cant Mute Cortana... I leave reading texts always on, on 8.1 I used to hit the power or volume down and it would quiet her when a text came in.... Still cant do this...I leave it on so when am driving she reads the texts. The only problem is when I am in a meeting or something, there is no way to mute her.

    It's the only thing that is keeping me on the fence about rolling back to 8.1...
    Does Quiet hours not work for this?
    12-05-2015 02:30 PM
  12. rcranium's Avatar
    Does Quiet hours not work for this?
    Quiet hours works on my 1520.
    12-05-2015 02:45 PM
  13. Agil Ristiyanto's Avatar
    i just check as usual in the morning when i woke up at 4:45am UTC+3 (i'm in Saudi Arabia), i get new build 10586.29 and finished download about 8.00am whean i'm going to work, but my battery only 20% so, just wait intil reach my office to get charge my battery, and done update about 8:40am... i'm excited with this update, because my Lumia 1020 work faster then last build, and all my old apps like Lumia Camera, Nokia Smartcam, work well again like when in WP8.1, other bug such as can't open BBM, WhatsApp, Line from notification is fixed, super sensitive touch work better, i tried with cloth gloves.. just view minutes ago at 10:30 pm i tried to roll back to WP8.1 but fail,... phone always restart, and i stop it,.. but i though needless to roll back to WP 8.1, this Windows 10 Mobile is ready for me,.. this is my experience with new build 10586.29 today :)
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    12-05-2015 02:52 PM
  14. Skamath's Avatar
    I don't think it's about panic. For me it's just about the time it takes until the device is set up like before again. The more apps you have, the longer it takes. Downloading maps, setting ring- and message tones. The thing is, when I perform a hard reset, I don't want a restore to mess things up again, so I basically choose to start from scratch. I definitely prefer an update that just works over having to go through a hard reset and full setup again.

    On the other hand, if I HAVE to, so be it. It's not the end of the world. :)
    True that the more apps the longer it takes. Where I am amazed is that in this day and age one shouldn't have to go thru these hoops. I don't think it is people panicking in general.
    12-05-2015 02:56 PM
  15. DavidinCT's Avatar
    How do you get the phone to read texts out loud? I can't find that anywhere.
    Cotrana > Notebook >Settings > Read incoming text message aloud> Select "always on".

    The Problem I am having is, when she reads off a text, I cant hit a button on my phone to mute her as I always have been able to on 8.1

    Does Quiet hours not work for this?
    Not sure, as this does not help me. I am sure she disables incoming texts calling out during those times but, it's worthless for my needs.

    On 8.1 I never use quiet hours because my job needs me to be available 24 hours a day, it's rare that calls come in after hours but, they do sometimes and from assorted numbers so, it's worthless.

    On 8.1 when Cortana would speak, I could hit the power button/vol down and mute her, this does not work in ANY of the Windows 10 builds... So I leave it on 24 hours a day, when I am in a meeting or with co-workers, if she goes off, I could mute her, on 10 I cant...

    I cant believe I am the ONLY person who uses Cortana like this. I want her to read all texts out loud because when I am in the car, I want to be able to reply to texts with out touching my phone.

    Trust me, if your married and your wife texts you...you'll know what I mean and why I want this to work.
    12-05-2015 03:16 PM
  16. AravindChoutpally's Avatar
    Did you experience any problems while updating apps on the current build or last build after resetting ? for me always error 0x8020002f while updating apps .
    12-05-2015 03:27 PM
  17. ajj3085's Avatar
    Cotrana > Notebook >Settings > Read incoming text message aloud> Select "always on".

    The Problem I am having is, when she reads off a text, I cant hit a button on my phone to mute her as I always have been able to on 8.1



    Not sure, as this does not help me. I am sure she disables incoming texts calling out during those times but, it's worthless for my needs.

    On 8.1 I never use quiet hours because my job needs me to be available 24 hours a day, it's rare that calls come in after hours but, they do sometimes and from assorted numbers so, it's worthless.

    On 8.1 when Cortana would speak, I could hit the power button/vol down and mute her, this does not work in ANY of the Windows 10 builds... So I leave it on 24 hours a day, when I am in a meeting or with co-workers, if she goes off, I could mute her, on 10 I cant...

    I cant believe I am the ONLY person who uses Cortana like this. I want her to read all texts out loud because when I am in the car, I want to be able to reply to texts with out touching my phone.

    Trust me, if your married and your wife texts you...you'll know what I mean and why I want this to work.
    No Bluetooth integration in your car i guess. I have her ask me to read it or not, but only over Bluetooth.
    12-05-2015 04:19 PM
  18. karan25i's Avatar
    Currently downloading updates for 3 hours with speed of 20kbps.im on wifi connection with 3g speed.else update all other things download with a 500+kbps speed.what should i do.
    12-05-2015 04:57 PM
  19. BaritoneGuy's Avatar
    Anyone with .29 can you tells me if a phone number in email and calendar are now links that will open the phone app? Is this very basic feature address? Thx.
    I suspect this will be fixed with an update to the mail and calendar app and not by an OS update. I hope I am wrong as it is very annoying for me as well
    12-05-2015 06:35 PM
  20. Bigfireq's Avatar
    Phone numbers in emails work as expected. Phone numbers in calendar work in three ways (sigh): If the phone number is in location, it works as a link. If it's in the subject, it's not a clickable target. If it's in the body of the calendar, it has a popup menu with the word "Link", pressing it opens to the phone app.
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    12-05-2015 07:14 PM
  21. hack14u's Avatar
    This update messed with my alarms again. My alarm from yesterday morning went off, even though it doesn't exist, no alarms do currently. Does this crap happen on the 950 and XL? I hard reset a few days ago because 586.11 had the same alarm issue driving me mad, then was fine after the hard reset when adding, changing, removing and testing alarms. Thanks for waking me at 4:30am MS. End rant. I didn't think a hard reset would be necessary after a minor update. Request for Alarms to be capable of uninstall and reinstall to fix issues added to Feedback.

    If you can't trust a simple alarm clock to work...
    I know that's a real pain in the butt, but dang it's funny as heck.
    920Walker likes this.
    12-05-2015 08:58 PM
  22. 920Walker's Avatar
    I know that's a real pain in the butt, but dang it's funny as heck.
    I complain here but in reality it's a minor inconvenience and annoyance. More work gets done when one wakes early. Narcissism has me waiting to hard reset until tomorrow AM, knowing mos def the non-existent alarm will go off. If it doesn't I'll eat my words after baking them into a fortune cookie.

    Battery drained from 80% to 4% after 30 minutes of plugged in while using HERE Drive and Groove over BT with the display always on.
    12-05-2015 09:18 PM
  23. tut1234's Avatar
    Did you experience any problems while updating apps on the current build or last build after resetting ? for me always error 0x8020002f while updating apps .
    I have had that problem. Look at the list of apps to update and if store is listed, update that first. I usually do a soft reset after updating core apps. Try updating only one app at a time. Sometimes turning WiFi off and on will help also. And a lot of soft resets until the phone is stable. Some apps are just stubborn.

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    12-05-2015 09:24 PM
  24. hack14u's Avatar
    I complain here but in reality it's a minor inconvenience and annoyance. More work gets done when one wakes early. Narcissism has me waiting to hard reset until tomorrow AM, knowing mos def the non-existent alarm will go off. If it doesn't I'll eat my words after baking them into a fortune cookie.

    Battery drained from 80% to 4% after 30 minutes of plugged in while using HERE Drive and Groove over BT with the display always on.
    Whoa, that is not good. I am DL'ing now to give it a go, last build had me back on 8.1, so giving it another try!
    12-05-2015 09:28 PM
  25. RealtorTechGuy's Avatar
    I suspect this will be fixed with an update to the mail and calendar app and not by an OS update. I hope I am wrong as it is very annoying for me as well
    Good so I am not the only thinking is this so simple yet has been missed.
    12-05-2015 09:31 PM
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