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02-26-2016 11:03 AM
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  1. pankaj981's Avatar
    To all the tweakers/hackers out there....has anyone attempted to install the recently released redstone WM10 build on their non-supported (yet) devices? I am currently trying out impersonating some of the newer WM10 devices on my 640 and so far I have been unsuccessful. I will keep on trying for some more attempts differently.

    ** This thread is meant for experimental procedures for enthusiasts only so please avoid doing something stupid that you would regret later **

    Edit: Okay after a few tries I finally figured it out. Currently installing build 14267.1002 on my AT&T unbranded 640.
    Last edited by pankaj981; 02-21-2016 at 01:15 AM.
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    02-20-2016 07:35 PM
  2. rayf888's Avatar
    Nice work! I wonder that actually works for all devices the same way as TH2... It's just a trick imposed by MS to get people to buy new devices........
    02-21-2016 01:29 AM
  3. slimchap's Avatar
    To all the tweakers/hackers out there....has anyone attempted to install the recently released redstone WM10 build on their non-supported (yet) devices? I am currently trying out impersonating some of the newer WM10 devices on my 640 and so far I have been unsuccessful. I will keep on trying for some more attempts differently.

    ** This thread is meant for experimental procedures for enthusiasts only so please avoid doing something stupid that you would regret later **

    Edit: Okay after a few tries I finally figured it out. Currently installing build 14267.1002 on my AT&T unbranded 640.
    Let us know how you tricked MS Servers? I will really like to know
    Maurizio Troso likes this.
    02-21-2016 01:53 AM
  4. pankaj981's Avatar
    The process is pretty simple, change the registry to impersonate a supported device to download the OS. I used a US-variant Lumia 550 to download the OS and it has been running pretty well on my 640. I haven't found many differences so as to what have been already reported in the official change log. One feature I did notice was a call transfer button baked into the dialer that can be enabled through an advanced phone menu
    ven07 likes this.
    02-21-2016 12:28 PM
  5. Maurizio Troso's Avatar
    The process is pretty simple, change the registry to impersonate a supported device to download the OS. I used a US-variant Lumia 550 to download the OS and it has been running pretty well on my 640. I haven't found many differences so as to what have been already reported in the official change log. One feature I did notice was a call transfer button baked into the dialer that can be enabled through an advanced phone menu
    Registry??? You updated via usb and a pc??
    02-21-2016 12:32 PM
  6. pankaj981's Avatar
    No, I had to interop unlock my device, install customPFD on it, change registry to impersonate a 550, enroll in Windows insider and download the update.
    02-21-2016 01:15 PM
  7. PepperdotNet's Avatar
    No, I had to interop unlock my device, install customPFD on it, change registry to impersonate a 550, enroll in Windows insider and download the update.
    I hope you'll be doing a proper tutorial for this? My luck for getting customPFD on W10 has been nonexistent. Please tell me I don't need to wipe it back to 8.1 and try that customPFD method?

    Since the 950XL is my daily driver, and everything else I own is not an x50 series, would kind of like to run Redstone on something older first.
    ven07 likes this.
    02-21-2016 05:05 PM
  8. pankaj981's Avatar
    I hope you'll be doing a proper tutorial for this? My luck for getting customPFD on W10 has been nonexistent. Please tell me I don't need to wipe it back to 8.1 and try that customPFD method?
    Well I am kinda avoiding creating the tutorial if you know what I mean...to avoid confusion and being blamed for bricked devices. But to give you some insight (and I am sure you would figure the rest out IMO) , you will have to roll back to 8.1 to install customPFD. I was trying for a while to install it on .107 but it kept throwing "cannot find installation directory" error. I finally decided to roll back to 8.1 and changed the registry entries to that of a Lumia 550. Set the device manufacturer name to "MicrosoftMDG" and the rest of the entries to any supported WM10 device, enroll in Windows Insider and you will get the update. Send me a PM if you want to know the exact registry entries.
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    02-21-2016 07:19 PM
  9. PepperdotNet's Avatar
    Understood, and I'm pretty sure I know what has to be done. Thanks.
    02-21-2016 08:53 PM
  10. nailzer's Avatar
    I can feel a nightmare coming on :-)
    02-21-2016 11:30 PM
  11. Nicholas Ek's Avatar
    I did this as soon as the build came out (having done it before) on my old Lumia 920.
    (Un)surprisingly, no glitches so far. Just as stable as 10586.107.
    Task switcher app limit on 1 GB devices is still 7 + Start Screen.
    Funnily, the Windows Camera app loses the Flash control...
    This means that Flash mode is set to auto with no way of changing, and the flash is always on when focusing.
    Edge is even more stable, same with Messaging.
    I'm gonna keep this build on that phone, so far so good.
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    02-21-2016 11:43 PM
  12. nailzer's Avatar
    I did this as soon as the build came out (having done it before) on my old Lumia 920.
    (Un)surprisingly, no glitches so far. Just as stable as 10586.107.
    Task switcher app limit on 1 GB devices is still 7 + Start Screen.
    Funnily, the Windows Camera app loses the Flash control...
    This means that Flash mode is set to auto with no way of changing, and the flash is always on when focusing.
    Edge is even more stable, same with Messaging.
    I'm gonna keep this build on that phone, so far so good.
    Well you have no right to complain :-) Good luck, glad ALL issues reported on old 920 sorted (except those you mentioned)
    02-22-2016 12:01 AM
  13. Chintan Gohel's Avatar
    I did this as soon as the build came out (having done it before) on my old Lumia 920.
    (Un)surprisingly, no glitches so far. Just as stable as 10586.107.
    Task switcher app limit on 1 GB devices is still 7 + Start Screen.
    Funnily, the Windows Camera app loses the Flash control...
    This means that Flash mode is set to auto with no way of changing, and the flash is always on when focusing.
    Edge is even more stable, same with Messaging.
    I'm gonna keep this build on that phone, so far so good.
    What about using with lumia camera? Or proshot?
    02-22-2016 03:02 AM
  14. pankaj981's Avatar
    What about using with lumia camera? Or proshot?
    Flash works for me on my 640 in native camera app. I did hard reset after the update so not sure if that made the difference.


    Also I found the performance slightly sluggish (at least the animations) as compared to .107. I wonder how the 550 and 650 would perform especially with a weaker CPU/GPU, may the newer firmware might have some performance benefits.
    ven07 likes this.
    02-22-2016 08:05 AM
  15. avengerxp's Avatar
    Does this mean the redstone branch will only be available to devices that shipped with W10m ?
    02-22-2016 08:16 AM
  16. pankaj981's Avatar
    Does this mean the redstone branch will only be available to devices that shipped with W10m ?
    For the initial part yes, later Microsoft would expand it to other devices.. The rollout would also be prioritized.
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    02-22-2016 08:43 AM
  17. Alain_A's Avatar
    customPFD is a app from the store?
    02-22-2016 11:23 AM
  18. PepperdotNet's Avatar
    No, search pankaj981 other threads on unbranding, etc. It is a homebrew app that provides a registry editor.

    pankaj981: you have a PM from me.
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    02-22-2016 11:48 AM
  19. Krystianpants's Avatar
    Originally posted by Nicholas Ek
    I did this as soon as the build came out (having done it before) on my old Lumia 920.
    (Un)surprisingly, no glitches so far. Just as stable as 10586.107.
    Task switcher app limit on 1 GB devices is still 7 + Start Screen.
    Funnily, the Windows Camera app loses the Flash control...
    This means that Flash mode is set to auto with no way of changing, and the flash is always on when focusing.
    Edge is even more stable, same with Messaging.
    I'm gonna keep this build on that phone, so far so good.
    Hope this doesn't mess with the feedback they receive for diagnostics. My guess is that's why only certain phones were allowed.
    02-22-2016 01:53 PM
  20. pankaj981's Avatar
    pankaj981: you have a PM from me.
    Responded with the registry edits
    02-22-2016 08:13 PM
  21. Nicholas Ek's Avatar
    Originally posted by poopyfinger
    Hope this doesn't mess with the feedback they receive for diagnostics. My guess is that's why only certain phones were allowed.
    I'm pretty sure that the only reason for the delay is that older phones need recovery ROMs of the Current Branch (rs2).
    Anyway, the OS is the same on all phones. This was an OS update without firmware, so no risks there.
    02-22-2016 08:19 PM
  22. PepperdotNet's Avatar
    By the way, they've yanked the build from the Lumia 550 temporarily so you'll have to impersonate something else. From Gabe's blog:
    We are no longer offering this build to Windows Insiders in the Fast ring with Lumia 550s while we investigate an issue relating to the phone being unable to charge via USB. We have added additional information about this issue at the bottom of this post under known issues.
    Windows Insiders with a Lumia 550 have reported an issue where their phone no longer charges or connects via USB after upgrading to Build 14267. We recommend restoring back to the Current Branch on your phone by using the Windows Device Recovery Tool to reinstall Windows 10 Mobile.
    02-23-2016 09:23 AM
  23. Maurizio Troso's Avatar
    By the way, they've yanked the build from the Lumia 550 temporarily so you'll have to impersonate something else. From Gabe's blog:
    Amen.

    Better standing by general fast ring releasin
    02-23-2016 10:08 AM
  24. pankaj981's Avatar
    Okay new build released today. I may actually hack this one on my main device, the 1520
    02-24-2016 12:35 PM
  25. Farhan Mammassan's Avatar
    Nice work! I wonder that actually works for all devices the same way as TH2... It's just a trick imposed by MS to get people to buy new devices........
    your absolutely right...

    Posted by lumia 730 user
    02-24-2016 01:20 PM
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