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  1. phlamethrowre's Avatar
    Why 2 days? My lumia 1020 takes an hour or two to finish upgrade and then there's nothing after that. Or is this after a hard reset? Even if it was, it would take me a couple of hours to get back all apps and copy all content back. Unless the wifi is really slow like 100kbps.
    I agree. 2 days to fully sync is hogwash. If someone thinks it takes 48 hours to fully sync up they dont understand how sync works. The 2 day thing I s an excuse for how bad the phone operates.
    mikepalma likes this.
    03-13-2016 09:42 AM
  2. Maurizio Troso's Avatar
    I agree. 2 days to fully sync is hogwash. If someone thinks it takes 48 hours to fully sync up they dont understand how sync works. The 2 day thing I s an excuse for how bad the phone operates.
    Never heard something about "runnin on the field" ? Remember that too much carriers data quality and coverage are worst than phones.
    Everyone postin here can confirm after two days their phones stop heating, drainin and start working faster
    03-13-2016 10:43 AM
  3. AndreiX's Avatar
    For those who have the build on your phones: is the start screen icon fixed or still appearing grey as below ?
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    03-13-2016 11:47 AM
  4. Andrew Gordon's Avatar
    It's still a grey square on my 950xl.
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    03-13-2016 02:10 PM
  5. Mark Kaplan's Avatar
    Cortana still will not play music when "Play (artist)" is spoken and mine is still a grey square too. 950 XL US Dual SIM.On day 3 battery life is starting to get better. 50% after 8 hours. One task I've noticed that makes a huge differance is turning off Page Prediction in Edge.
    Andrew Gordon likes this.
    03-13-2016 05:32 PM
  6. mikepalma's Avatar
    Another build, more disappointment. That should be Gabe's motto
    03-14-2016 05:07 AM
  7. andyqkw's Avatar
    For those who have the build on your phones: is the start screen icon fixed or still appearing grey as below ?
    Grey square as always.
    03-14-2016 06:32 AM
  8. andyqkw's Avatar
    Another build, more disappointment. That should be Gabe's motto
    Issues with Dual SIM device still not fixed, having 2nd SIM in my phone will sometimes cause the phone to act sluggish, apps not responding and/or without data even when Mobile Data is turned on.
    portboy likes this.
    03-14-2016 06:36 AM
  9. Maurizio Troso's Avatar
    One task I've noticed that makes a huge differance is turning off Page Prediction in Edge.
    ??? Edge goes faster??
    03-14-2016 06:36 AM
  10. Pete's Avatar
    Another build, more disappointment. That should be Gabe's motto
    If you can't handle the risks involved in using the Fast ring, then leave the Fast ring.

    It's not a difficult concept to understand, surely....
    03-14-2016 06:38 AM
  11. Chintan Gohel's Avatar
    Things are improving in the 10586 builds. The 14xxx builds are very new so the initial phase will have serious bugs just like when 10080 was released
    zei20t likes this.
    03-14-2016 08:01 AM
  12. Paolo Ferrazza's Avatar
    Tested for a few days on my 950 (no reset after update....well no reset done for months actually) and this build is SO GOOD on my phone. Not a single reboot (the first redstone avaraged at one reboot a day), supersmooth multitasking and loading (never saw a loading screen or resuming), old apps like what's app are super smooth. Never been so happy about my 950.

    Only sad about the Band bug...

    Same experience for a collegue of mine with her 950.

    Both from Italy with latest firmware.
    03-14-2016 09:14 AM
  13. Paolo Ferrazza's Avatar
    Things are improving in the 10586 builds. The 14xxx builds are very new so the initial phase will have serious bugs just like when 10080 was released
    I feel like this was true with the first redstone but they must have merged the fixes from the other branch to this one because it has improved so so much.
    03-14-2016 09:15 AM
  14. Paolo Ferrazza's Avatar
    Grey square as always.
    A MSFT dev acknowledge that the grey icon will be fixed in one of the next redstone builds too, since it is taking so long it must be harder than one might think...
    03-14-2016 09:17 AM
  15. Pete's Avatar
    since it is taking so long it must be harder than one might think...
    Or just of a lesser importance than other issues.

    But yes, I can see how vitally important this issue is and must be fixed immediately; it gives me heartburn whenever I see that grey square. How very incompetent Microsoft is for allowing such a thing to happen.
    seldzar and LeFreak like this.
    03-14-2016 09:22 AM
  16. ruronirican's Avatar
    This build has been the worst one I have experienced on my 950XL. Instability with things mounted to the SD card and reboots... OMG the reboots... prior to this build I had maybe experience a handful of reboots... after installing the new build I would say my phone reboots on average of one time per hour... app that get place in suspend mode crash when I tried to resume them... if in an app and a phone call or sms arrives and I answer/view the app will crash... :( here is hoping for a new build... and SOONER rather than later :(
    03-14-2016 09:24 AM
  17. Pete's Avatar
    I've had no reboots, hangs or lag on my 950XL with the latest build.

    The only thing that doesn't want to work all the time is the new Windows Central App.
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    03-14-2016 09:28 AM
  18. Paolo Ferrazza's Avatar
    Or just of a lesser importance than other issues.

    But yes, I can see how vitally important this issue is and must be fixed immediately; it gives me heartburn whenever I see that grey square. How very incompetent Microsoft is for allowing such a thing to happen.
    LOL it wouldn't have been important if we were talking about early builds but it is an obvious bug which everyone will notice and the OS was released in november to customers so they are not giving a great impression, we are not talking about a small enterprise, we are talking about the top product of one of the top software houses in the world. I don't think google would let Chrome on the market for more than one day with a grey icon in the taskbar for example, don't you think ? :P
    03-14-2016 10:12 AM
  19. Pete's Avatar
    I don't think google would let Chrome on the market for more than one day with a grey icon in the taskbar for example, don't you think ? :P
    Maybe not a day, but almost 2 months without a right-click menu...?

    https://productforums.google.com/for...me/6Tvxl9aKLcI

    But, this is an old example. Stuff happens. Some stuff is considered more important than other stuff.
    03-14-2016 10:18 AM
  20. Paolo Ferrazza's Avatar
    Maybe not a day, but almost 2 months without a right-click menu...?

    https://productforums.google.com/for...me/6Tvxl9aKLcI

    But, this is an old example. Stuff happens. Some stuff is considered more important than other stuff.
    This bug always happens and it has been there for a year, that bug happened occasionally to some users. I develop software for an enterprise and bugs severity is not evaluated only considering if it breaks a feature but also considering the visibility to users. This bug has high visibility so: 1- MS is not allcoating enough resources to its flagship product (windows 10) or 2) the bug is more difficult than it may seem. While I don't care for this bug I'd really prefer (2) to be true.
    03-14-2016 11:12 AM
  21. Pete's Avatar
    Yeah, I also develop software in corporation (a little less than a billion dollars revenue, so probably small in your terms).

    We typically use a Moscow rating (Must have, Should have, Could have, Won't have). This particular issue would rate a C in our team since it doesn't affect functionality and doesn't impact anyone's use or understanding of the system (since it's pretty obvious that the task in question is the start screen).

    The thing is that items are ranked and interpreted differently. I wonder how many votes there are for this issue in Windows Feedback.
    03-14-2016 11:24 AM
  22. groady-ho baluzy's Avatar
    I sure wish I knew why one build works so well on one phone but not another, even when they're the same model.
    It seems like it's all different problems too. How does that happen when people are all running the same OS? Is there no consistency in tech.
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    03-14-2016 11:26 AM
  23. jcrod73's Avatar
    I sure wish I knew why one build works so well on one phone but not another, even when they're the same model.
    It seems like it's all different problems too. How does that happen when people are all running the same OS? Is there no consistency in tech.
    Totally agree!! VERY frustrating.
    03-14-2016 11:53 AM
  24. Mad Cabbie's Avatar
    Well, I'm on .164 with my 950xl, and heat is not an issue. I did try the Redstone, knowing full well it was a raw preview, and still didn't get any overheating. I'm a cabbie and had no issues with gps, Bluetooth or band. You seem quite an intelligent guy and are aware that the 950 et al were released on 10586.xx, so the Redstone branch, for these devices, is an entirely different direction. As for a year, I didn't think it was that long? My last thought on overheating....I had two note three's you could fry eggs on, and I wasn't alone! Try a 930 and see how they behave on 8.1. Very warm bottom right corner.
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    03-14-2016 06:06 PM
  25. Temujin Morgan's Avatar
    I sure wish I knew why one build works so well on one phone but not another, even when they're the same model.
    It seems like it's all different problems too. How does that happen when people are all running the same OS? Is there no consistency in tech.
    Yeah a little frustrating. But the recent firmware list (which my phone didn't get) had over 500 variants. Now divide by 4 for 950, 950 Dual, 950 XL and 950 XL Dual and there is more than 125 variants of each type, also remember my phone wasn't on that list (L950 RM-1104_15301 000-AU) so who knows how many there are out there. Also that list showed so many different versions of firmware.

    After 2 days I had another reboot yesterday following a sharp 10% drop in battery over 15min. Rebooted fine after and been good since. Generally battery usage has been pretty good. Reboots are annoying but phone comes back to life after unlike old build. I still believe for my Model this is the best build yet. So much so I don't think I will jump on a newer build as soon as it drops. I have had this phone 3 months now and this is the happiest I have been with it and its still not great.
    jcrod73 likes this.
    03-14-2016 08:01 PM
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