04-18-2016 10:51 PM
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  1. swanlee's Avatar
    Wow, what is with the last fast ring builds for PC and mobile? Both are the worst most unstable builds since the entire insider program started. Seriously the first Win 10 builds years ago were more stable than this. I have a Lumia 950.

    I know it's fast ring and I do expect bugs but this is a bit ridiculous. Bugs I discovered in about 10 mins of use after upgrade. I've already restarted my 950 and pulled the battery out.

    1. Store crashes randomly but also nearly every time I launch the store and start looking for apps.
    2. Glance screen has two area's to turn off and on now and these area's conflict with each other and one of the area's turns the entire thing off
    3. Tweetium crashes after 2 seconds
    4. Edge crashes every time if you go to favorites and open a folder in favorites
    5. Edge crashes often now just random surfing
    6. Windows Hello does not function properly at all. the iris scanner turns on after locking the phone, then when you try and unlock it suing the scanner it either fails to acknowledge you and crashes and makes you do a pin.

    This is just initial impressions after a little use, but this build on the mobile and PC is trash, their are even more quirky broken stuff on the latest PC build.
    rinosaur likes this.
    04-15-2016 08:14 AM
  2. Pete's Avatar
    Gabe did imply a while ago that the fast builds would be edgier. While I admit that it would be good if the more common issues were highlighted in the "known issues" clause, I'm not entirely unhappy. I know I can revert to the Slow ring if things are unmanageable.

    The only thing I've had to do is disable Windows Hello. The rest of the system works for me.
    04-15-2016 08:24 AM
  3. Mad Cabbie's Avatar
    There always seem to be large discrepancies between insiders experiences on new builds. They even vary on the same models. I can understand the variables on differing devices, but on the same, I won't say identical devices, the differences are difficult to nail down. Could it be down to user differences, i.e apps etc. I'm guessing when MS test a fast ring they start with a vanilla, non restored device. I would assume the issues they find are the ones reported in the bug listing.

    Does seem odd though that some are getting good performance as some are reporting as unusable.
    04-15-2016 08:31 AM
  4. swanlee's Avatar
    Following forums and the insider forums and twitter I'm seeing alot more problems being discussed with these last Mobile and PC rings which make sense since they are essentially the same OS.

    I have one phone a Lumia 950 and two Windows tablets (a Surface Gen one Pro and an Acer W4) running fast ring and all 3 devices are more unstable then they have ever been. I'm actually quite impressed how how buggy this build is accross multiple devices this late into the Insider program for W10.

    My only concern is it takes them several more builds to straighten this out, but since this is probably the first build that contained ALOT of Anniversary update features I'm not very confident that it will launch in a stable manner in just a month or two.
    04-15-2016 08:47 AM
  5. swanlee's Avatar
    I'm not totally unhappy or anything cause bottom line I'm on fast ring and I should expect this but for the most part over the last couple of years Fast Ring insider has not been to bad with major bugs. I've been on fast ring on my phones and PC's since the beginning but if this is going to be the new norm I'm probably going to have to back off on my phone and at least one of my tablets and move to the slow ring.
    gesi666 likes this.
    04-15-2016 08:50 AM
  6. Pete's Avatar
    I agree, we've had things pretty good for the past few months. The problem is that people expect builds to come out every couple of weeks, so any perceived delay brings wild accusations of broken promises, no updates, and general feelings of abandonment.
    04-15-2016 08:59 AM
  7. swanlee's Avatar
    I agree, we've had things pretty good for the past few months. The problem is that people expect builds to come out every couple of weeks, so any perceived delay brings wild accusations of broken promises, no updates, and general feelings of abandonment.
    Well I learned my lesson I'd rather a delay on fast ring than releasing anything resembling the last build for PC and Mobile. If my 3 devices were anymore buggy they'd be unusable. As is I'll be patientally waiting the next build to see if it fixes the apps I use most. I hope newer build are not playing wack a mole with issue and are just generally more stable and fix the issue in this build.
    fiveaces01 likes this.
    04-15-2016 09:21 AM
  8. squire777's Avatar
    I haven't experienced any major issues and actually think this is probably one of the most stable fast ring builds in recent times.
    jlangner likes this.
    04-15-2016 10:38 AM
  9. Maurizio Troso's Avatar
    I haven't experienced any major issues and actually think this is probably one of the most stable fast ring builds in recent times.
    Guess you got a 950 and you are in USA or UK....
    04-15-2016 10:44 AM
  10. squire777's Avatar
    I'm using a 640
    04-15-2016 11:04 AM
  11. Maurizio Troso's Avatar
    I'm using a 640
    You are the only Win 8.1 eligible phone without iussues with last Redstone in forum. That build killed WIn10 phones even for now
    04-15-2016 11:20 AM
  12. Eduard Vlad Ilie's Avatar
    Im running 14322 on my lumia 930 and i am experiencing some tough issues where when i touch the screen it makes a random tap all over it and not where i pressed. I jave to restart to make touch work again. Also shadow battery drainage is back and find my lumia hot and burning with no power at all. A nightmare.

    Posted from WC for W10 running on my 930.
    04-15-2016 11:23 AM
  13. swanlee's Avatar
    Guess you got a 950 and you are in USA or UK....
    I have a 950 and I'm in the USA and I'm getting lots of app crashing including built in apps like the Store app itself and feature problems like Windows Hello and Glance.
    xzb6np likes this.
    04-15-2016 11:58 AM
  14. swanlee's Avatar
    If I change my Insider Status to Slow or Production on my phone will it actually install the latest stable release and get me out of this current bad fast ring build?
    04-15-2016 11:59 AM
  15. Eduard Vlad Ilie's Avatar
    You have to roll back. If you change rings then you will have the same until a new build for the ring is available.

    Posted from WC for W10 running on my 930.
    04-15-2016 12:05 PM
  16. Maurizio Troso's Avatar
    If I change my Insider Status to Slow or Production on my phone will it actually install the latest stable release and get me out of this current bad fast ring build?
    No, read article on top of page. No phone, notebook or pc can be downgraded to a previous build without a restore

    How to roll back Windows 10 Mobile from Fast and Slow Ring to Production release | Windows Central
    04-15-2016 12:07 PM
  17. swanlee's Avatar
    Oh well looks like I'm stuck till they fixed it, once they do I'll go back to slow ring. right now slow ring would just make me wait longer for a fix.
    04-15-2016 12:18 PM
  18. Maurizio Troso's Avatar
    Oh well looks like I'm stuck till they fixed it, once they do I'll go back to slow ring. right now slow ring would just make me wait longer for a fix.
    Better Production, trust me ;)
    04-15-2016 12:25 PM
  19. anthonyng's Avatar
    Luckily it's your backup phone ;)

    I had the same experience with my surface 3.... I ended up doing a total factory restore back to 8.1, then all the updates, then windows 10 production, then back on insider.... it seems ok now after all that.
    04-15-2016 12:37 PM
  20. swanlee's Avatar
    Luckily it's your backup phone ;)

    I had the same experience with my surface 3.... I ended up doing a total factory restore back to 8.1, then all the updates, then windows 10 production, then back on insider.... it seems ok now after all that.
    For me I only have one phone but multiple tablets

    A Surface 3 - Prod stable release build, tablet I use everyday
    Surface Pro Gen one- Fast Ring, My wife uses it and it used to be my test tablet
    Acer W4 - Fast Ring - My new Test tablet, used to be my everyday tablet
    Lumia 950 - Fast ring but my only phone

    The 3 fast ring devices are currently all sorts of fubared/buggy and almost not usable with this latest build, not had that before using insider fast ring. I'd see a bug here and theior and work around it which is why I have so many fast ring devices as it is usually no big deal.
    xzb6np likes this.
    04-15-2016 12:49 PM
  21. swanlee's Avatar
    Luckily it's your backup phone ;)

    I had the same experience with my surface 3.... I ended up doing a total factory restore back to 8.1, then all the updates, then windows 10 production, then back on insider.... it seems ok now after all that.
    Also my Surface 3 did not like insider even before this buggy build. I bought it on Win 10 went to insider became too glitchy and wiped and restart on the Production builds.
    04-15-2016 12:51 PM
  22. speccy's Avatar
    Another annoying issue with my L950 (aside from the iris scanner problem) is that I can't use Hey Cortana - see screenshot below. I think they may have broken more than they fixed with this build.

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    04-15-2016 01:37 PM
  23. Krystianpants's Avatar
    My PC has no issues on latest build. I did have issues but I did a Reset of PC and it fixed everything.

    On mobile I have a few small things that are problematic, but nothing too big. Much better than the previous build. It's super fast and responsive. I do have 1 app that thinks it's on trial even though I paid for it. I have iris scan issue but I turned it off. Readit will freeze if I am looking at a pic and go to full screen mode, but I just don't do that. It runs a bit warmer but seems that after running for a while the issue is less apparent. I think initially after install the build does something that uses extreme CPU. But even battery is great right now. All minor issues compared to previous build which was nothing but crashing, rebooting and all sorts of stuff. So I think both builds are the best they have had yet in Redstone.

    I would suggest reset of your PC though. It seems every build requires me to do that for some reason.
    04-15-2016 04:08 PM
  24. Lumious's Avatar
    Wow, what is with the last fast ring builds for PC and mobile? Both are the worst most unstable builds since the entire insider program started. Seriously the first Win 10 builds years ago were more stable than this. I have a Lumia 950.

    I know it's fast ring and I do expect bugs but this is a bit ridiculous. Bugs I discovered in about 10 mins of use after upgrade. I've already restarted my 950 and pulled the battery out.

    1. Store crashes randomly but also nearly every time I launch the store and start looking for apps.
    2. Glance screen has two area's to turn off and on now and these area's conflict with each other and one of the area's turns the entire thing off
    3. Tweetium crashes after 2 seconds
    4. Edge crashes every time if you go to favorites and open a folder in favorites
    5. Edge crashes often now just random surfing
    6. Windows Hello does not function properly at all. the iris scanner turns on after locking the phone, then when you try and unlock it suing the scanner it either fails to acknowledge you and crashes and makes you do a pin.

    This is just initial impressions after a little use, but this build on the mobile and PC is trash, their are even more quirky broken stuff on the latest PC build.
    If you think this is the worst build since W10M started in preview for insiders you obviously never ran 10080 or 10136. If you did, then you are just exaggerating immensely.
    04-15-2016 07:14 PM
  25. HeyCori's Avatar
    This build is crazy unstable. I've had to restart at least five times today because of freezing and apps crash frequently. I'm impressed at all the new features in this build but man did it come at a cost.
    rinosaur, ven07, eusty and 3 others like this.
    04-15-2016 08:04 PM
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