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  1. TechFreak1's Avatar
    It's not coming back. Microsoft is releasing a new UWP Skype app soon to replace the current mobile app. To answer your question on why it was removed, no one can provide you the exact reason but Microsoft. One reason could be due to the messaging app being affected by it. Besides who knows, skype UWP might have some kind of integration with the messaging app.
    To add that, the facebook (WM10 app) for instance has some integration with the people app, you can see the recent posts / status updates in whats new. However tapping anything opens up the facebook app. So it might work along similar lines, but we can only speculate at this point.
    04-21-2016 07:31 PM
  2. slyronit's Avatar
    No, the messaging app can and has been updated separately for months. Skype was not integrated into the OS, but into the messaging app
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    04-21-2016 09:46 PM
  3. stocktiki's Avatar
    Swanlee:

    For what it's worth I liked having Skype integration in Messenger, too. though it was pretty slick to see all "urgent" things in one place. I will adapt - but I will miss the Messenger + Skype experiment while it lasted.
    04-21-2016 09:59 PM
  4. greedo_greedy's Avatar
    I'm glad that Messenger and Skype was disconnected.
    I personally want my SMS Messaging app to remain just that.

    I can use the Skype app when needed.
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    04-21-2016 10:44 PM
  5. slyronit's Avatar
    This is from the Skype blog
    The mobile release of the Skype UWP Preview app will bring you features youve asked forlike group calling and morewhile leveraging the benefits of the Skype integration into Windows 10 you previously experienced, like a single view of your SMS and Skype conversations. This way you get the best Skype experience possible and you can take it across your Windows devices.

    To our Windows Insiders: Skype UWP Preview app adds group features ? - Skype Blogs

    So the UWP app will support integration with messaging and it would be optional.

    Hope everyone would be happy now.
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    04-22-2016 12:31 AM
  6. Florin_Anghel's Avatar
    Problem is the following: what will happen if the new Skype UWP drains battery? knowing Microsoft I think it's safe to bet on the fact that the first releases of Skype UWP will be very bad.
    04-22-2016 03:36 AM
  7. slyronit's Avatar
    Yes, that is why the Insiders will test the first few builds.
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    04-22-2016 03:46 AM
  8. Maurizio Troso's Avatar
    Problem is the following: what will happen if the new Skype UWP drains battery? knowing Microsoft I think it's safe to bet on the fact that the first releases of Skype UWP will be very bad.
    Will happen nothing, sure that's the best idea to separate apps so everyone can use, enable, disable, quite and set one by one in background, notify center, lock screen.
    And messages are listed in different screens
    Merging I noticed was the most complained move
    04-22-2016 04:01 AM
  9. Florin_Anghel's Avatar
    Will happen nothing, sure that's the best idea to separate apps so everyone can use, enable, disable, quite and set one by one in background, notify center, lock screen.
    And messages are listed in different screens
    Merging I noticed was the most complained move
    For you, but not for everyone.
    You see I have nothing against new things, I do have something against poor implemention of new things. Why I am afraid? Looking back in the history of replacing apps, MS eco system is not pleasant. Biggest drawback Zune and the new Groove that went though name changes twice and redesign. Not even now it's not finished.
    So... they launched Windows 10, they brag about messaging and skype integration, first releases were awful, with time it became better, now they have a pretty stable messaging + skype app (yes, it works, maybe not for you) and what do they decide? Kill it and start again with new Skype UWP
    What does history tell us? That the first releases (probably the first year) the Skype UWP will be awful. We go again in the cycle of Microsoft stupid decisions of rebooting a product over and over as soon as it reaches stability.
    For the life of me I cannot get why they are doing this with some of the apps/services.. I suspect someone is brain damaged and in charge of Microsoft decisions, cause otherwise there is no logical explanation. I mean when the community argues over and over about the Zune removal, you must be retarded to do that again with another product.
    04-22-2016 04:16 AM
  10. Maurizio Troso's Avatar
    For you, but not for everyone.
    You see I have nothing against new things, I do have something against poor implemention of new things. Why I am afraid? Looking back in the history of replacing apps, MS eco system is not pleasant. Biggest drawback Zune and the new Groove that went though name changes twice and redesign. Not even now it's not finished.
    So... they launched Windows 10, they brag about messaging and skype integration, first releases were awful, with time it became better, now they have a pretty stable messaging + skype app (yes, it works, maybe not for you) and what do they decide? Kill it and start again with new Skype UWP
    What does history tell us? That the first releases (probably the first year) the Skype UWP will be awful. We go again in the cycle of Microsoft stupid decisions of rebooting a product over and over as soon as it reaches stability.
    For the life of me I cannot get why they are doing this with some of the apps/services.. I suspect someone is brain damaged and in charge of Microsoft decisions, cause otherwise there is no logical explanation. I mean when the community argues over and over about the Zune removal, you must be retarded to do that again with another product.
    Zune was one sad past choice :(

    (if I remember well , there were past times when MS branch are full separated and they not interoperate)

    That remember me the fall of Creative Labs, passing from creating new pc standards to almost disappear in market.

    Now I trust in them (even they lost months of backupped sms).
    However, the team follows (or almost try) the feedbacks.

    Let's wait and see the news :)

    "Don't count your chickens before they hatch."
    04-22-2016 04:39 AM
  11. swanlee's Avatar
    I'm glad that Messenger and Skype was disconnected.
    I personally want my SMS Messaging app to remain just that.

    I can use the Skype app when needed.
    For those that used both alot it was much better to see them in one place and be able to reply to skype messages in the actual notification itself like you can with SMS. At the very least it should be a choice we are allowed to make for ourself.

    Why should i have to open a completely different app to communicate if MS can integrate it and why should I lose features like inline notification reply's?
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    04-22-2016 06:11 AM
  12. swanlee's Avatar
    Problem is the following: what will happen if the new Skype UWP drains battery? knowing Microsoft I think it's safe to bet on the fact that the first releases of Skype UWP will be very bad.
    MS needs to fix the issue then, it certainly was not universal my batter is the same now as it was when Skype + messaging was integrated.
    04-22-2016 06:12 AM
  13. swanlee's Avatar
    This is from the Skype blog
    The mobile release of the Skype UWP Preview app will bring you features you’ve asked for—like group calling and more—while leveraging the benefits of the Skype integration into Windows 10 you previously experienced, like a single view of your SMS and Skype conversations. This way you get the best Skype experience possible and you can take it across your Windows devices.

    To our Windows Insiders: Skype UWP Preview app adds group features ? - Skype Blogs

    So the UWP app will support integration with messaging and it would be optional.

    Hope everyone would be happy now.
    Yes this is very encouraging, MS needs to keep their info in check and better communicate these changes though.
    Maurizio Troso likes this.
    04-22-2016 06:15 AM
  14. anton267's Avatar
    I had HORRIBLE massive battery drain: 50% in 2hrs.

    If you didn't experience this then you didn't really use Skype alot.
    Agree! I had this type of drain, without using Skype at all. Just having my skype account logged on with the messaging app which is set to work in the background.
    04-22-2016 11:14 AM
  15. Chintan Gohel's Avatar
    Skype Company Statistics ? Statistic Brain

    Found these statistics interesting. Only 74 million users of skype. On the other hand, how many phone users are there in the world? About 4.5 billion. So what percentage of mobile users are on skype? Less than 2%. We can infer then that less than 2% of windows mobile users are on skype. This inference works if we assume that skype users are platform agnostic. So it's a very small percentage of people that will be irritated with this decision

    I'm not making bad inferences here, am I? Feeling sleepy so brain is half awake
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    04-22-2016 11:54 AM
  16. swanlee's Avatar
    Skype Company Statistics ? Statistic Brain

    Found these statistics interesting. Only 74 million users of skype. On the other hand, how many phone users are there in the world? About 4.5 billion. So what percentage of mobile users are on skype? Less than 2%. We can infer then that less than 2% of windows mobile users are on skype. This inference works if we assume that skype users are platform agnostic. So it's a very small percentage of people that will be irritated with this decision

    I'm not making bad inferences here, am I? Feeling sleepy so brain is half awake
    I don't care what percentage of users it irritates if "I'M" one of those users.
    04-22-2016 12:09 PM
  17. Krystianpants's Avatar
    Skype UWP will replace it. And you can integrate Messaging or any other chat clients that build hooks into it. It will sort of become a central messaging service and be customizable. Once you integrate messaging into it you can select it to be your default messaging app. MS knows what it's doing. It makes more sense as lets people keep plain messaging separate if they want to and still get a full functioning skype app.
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    04-22-2016 01:00 PM
  18. Queen Kong1's Avatar
    It's not coming back. Microsoft is releasing a new UWP Skype app soon to replace the current mobile app. To answer your question on why it was removed, no one can provide you the exact reason but Microsoft. One reason could be due to the messaging app being affected by it. Besides who knows, skype UWP might have some kind of integration with the messaging app.
    I'm kind of glad really, times i didn't want ppl messaging me on skype in my message inbox just sms messages only! should be separate
    04-22-2016 07:51 PM
  19. RumoredNow's Avatar
    IMHO, choice is good.

    Forced integration would not work for me as my Skype was uber busy and muting/unmuting all my chats as needed would be tedious. Better to control it all at its source.

    Now we've moved it over to Slack which is exploding for me. 117 contacts and 7 unique groups. I would never choose to integrate it into Messenger.

    By comparison, I receive few SMS and don't ever need it silent outside of Quiet Hours.
    04-22-2016 08:43 PM
  20. Bobvfr's Avatar
    To the OP with the question of "Help me understand" all I can advise is to choose from any of the following words or phrases:

    Stupidity.

    Pig ignorance.

    Downright stubborn and out to upset as many people as possible.

    Your choice, maybe I was unlucky in my timing to try and get into Skype, it was about this time last year, I got my wife and children set up so we would have one platform for our communication (Important as my wife isn't an IT wizkid).

    We have plenty of devices, WP's PC's tablets, Xbox's and it was shambolic, on RT you couldn't see or send pictures, on each device the interface and options where slightly different and then Skype dropped the bombshell that the "Modern" app (That was crap to be honest) would be dropped.

    So we now had the stupidity of trying to shoe horn the desktop app on a tablet, when the one app that really worked (The one on the phone) could easily be made into a universal app, thousand complained and left Skype for other platforms but all we get from Skype on the "Community" forums was BLANK, nothing they would clam up and ignore all the questions and heartfelt appeals.

    OK the new integrated apps where on the way but there was a two month gap.

    I actually liked the integration with messaging, I could flick between using a Skype IM or a SMS when the need arose, one place for any message.

    I can see some had problems, so instead of doing the sensible thing (Like they DIDN'T do last time) of giving people the CHOICE, they just close it down without a proper replacement.

    So a year on after loosing so many upset customers, they do a 180 degree U turn and upset almost as many.

    I really do hope people at Skype are hanging their heads in shame.

    MS took over Skype with an unassailable dominance in the VOIP market and between themselves and the management at Skype have proceeded to muck it up so badly and really upset so many users.

    Shame on them.
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    04-23-2016 04:42 AM
  21. Ryujingt3's Avatar
    I really liked the Skype Messenger integration. However I also noticed battery drain as others have mentioned.
    04-23-2016 06:38 AM
  22. thinkdan's Avatar
    Yea I'm getting the same thing I have to read the skype notification and do not see the text from the notice in the actual skype app when talking to the person that skyped me. This is not a good thing, much preferred it the way it was built into messaging.

    Also before when I got a skype notification I could reply to the person inline on the actual notification itself, with this new way I have to open the app to reply.

    This is a backwards step in pretty much every way, hope they fix it to work like it used to.
    Honestly, Skype has always been a piece of garbage. Myriads of problems, like missing notifications, bad syncing, constant change of minds from Microsoft, etc. And it's always the same old excuse: "Skype wasn't built for messaging, so it's gonna take time". I've totally given up on it and MS should do the same and go back to the old Messenger which worked perfectly back in the WP7 days. Not gonna happen though.
    04-23-2016 09:52 AM
  23. seldzar's Avatar
    Those of you unsatisfied with this do realize that you are free to go to the production build and enjoy all that wonderful integration that never gave YOU problems right?

    Go enjoy the feature you want on the official GA release if it means that much to you.

    Edit: nevermind on my skype comment, syncing still sucks on this old app.

    Edit2: Syncing is definitely better than the previous build but it's still so slow on this app. I'm excited to try the new UWP app as it can't possibly get any worse...
    Last edited by RumoredNow; 04-23-2016 at 01:30 PM. Reason: cleanup on aisle 5
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    04-23-2016 11:55 AM
  24. Maurizio Troso's Avatar
    Those of you unsatisfied with this do realize that you are free to go to the production build and enjoy all that wonderful integration that never gave YOU problems right?

    Go enjoy the feature you want on the official GA release if it means that much to you.

    For the record, since 14328 the skype syncing issues have been fixed.

    Skype works as you like, just choose your build.
    Threshold, you got integration
    Redstone, you got separated messages income.
    100% users satisfied
    Last edited by RumoredNow; 04-23-2016 at 01:32 PM. Reason: cleanup on aisle 5
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    04-23-2016 12:11 PM
  25. swanlee's Avatar
    Skype works as you like, just choose your build.
    Threshold, you got integration
    Redstone, you got separated messages income.
    100% users satisfied

    Since th future direction of WP10 is redstone then it only makes sense for those of us with problems in the direction redstone is taking would speak up now before it goes live to production. The whole point of preview builds is to give feedback.

    And yes I've given MS feedback on the insider and skype forums but that does not mean we should be shunned from discussing that here. I know people derail these types of threads to get the mods to shut them down but the reality is you are free to ignore these threads if you are happy with the direction redstone is taking skype+messaging.

    You like the new way it's handled? Great either ignore this thread of create your own thread of how much you like the change.
    Last edited by RumoredNow; 04-23-2016 at 01:33 PM. Reason: cleanup on aisle 5
    04-23-2016 12:40 PM
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