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  1. Ryujingt3's Avatar
    I guess so.
    And so this part of the forum now dies a sad and slow death. Kind of like Windows Phone itself really. Such a shame.
    01-16-2018 07:05 PM
  2. TgeekB's Avatar
    And so this part of the forum now dies a sad and slow death. Kind of like Windows Phone itself really. Such a shame.
    Change is a difficult thing, but inevitable.
    01-16-2018 08:07 PM
  3. nate0's Avatar
    So basically there is no difference between production and the insider program.
    Ya seems the "rings" are interchangeable now. What is interesting too is that any phone I update to 15063.xxx immideately then wants to update to the FCU latest January release even if it is not supported or listed not supported for this version.
    01-17-2018 07:58 PM
  4. Ryujingt3's Avatar
    Random question, seeing as pretty much this is the only real 'active' thread for those still on W10M, but is Groove OneDrive music streaming still working? E.g. can you make a folder on OneDrive called 'Music', put your own songs on there and then sign in to Groove on your W10M device to see and stream the songs? No longer seems to work for me on my X3 (playing songs from SD card is fine) and I just wanted to know if anyone else had it still working.
    01-17-2018 09:24 PM
  5. nate0's Avatar
    I think so. I have all my music on one drive. I sync most of it so that it is available offline though.

    Now that you mentioned this I will test one that is not synced yet.
    Edit: Just tried it. I can stream a file from groove that's online only. Do you get an error or it just fails to play?
    Last edited by Nate W; 01-18-2018 at 12:04 AM.
    01-17-2018 10:50 PM
  6. camaroz1985's Avatar
    Works for me too. This is one of the reasons I keep Onedrive. My wife and I can both listen to all the music we have on Onedrive on our iPhones, Surface, etc.
    01-18-2018 10:53 AM
  7. Ryujingt3's Avatar
    I got it working again. I had to rename my OneDrive Music folder, move the music to the a new folder, called the new folder Music and delete the renamed folder. Took ages to sync but it seemed to sort itself out.
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    01-21-2018 07:58 AM
  8. Joe920's Avatar
    I got it working again. I had to rename my OneDrive Music folder, move the music to the a new folder, called the new folder Music and delete the renamed folder. Took ages to sync but it seemed to sort itself out.
    Thanks, I'll give that a shot, because I haven't been able to get this to work for a while now. Did you do the renaming etc online, or locally with the onedrive app running?
    01-21-2018 11:11 AM
  9. Ryujingt3's Avatar
    Thanks, I'll give that a shot, because I haven't been able to get this to work for a while now. Did you do the renaming etc online, or locally with the onedrive app running?
    I renamed it whilst being logged in to OneDrive on my PC and used the OneDrive website to rename it. It took ages to update though and I had to keep opening and closing Groove on my phone because it would only import about 250 songs at a time from OneDrive. So, after it did that (and said all song were imported - which was a lie). I closed Groove, opened it and left it at the forefront with my finger on the screen to stop the phone sleeping. Eventually, after a day and a half, all my OneDrive music is back on my X3.
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    01-25-2018 02:41 AM
  10. Ektalog's Avatar
    I renamed it whilst being logged in to OneDrive on my PC and used the OneDrive website to rename it. It took ages to update though and I had to keep opening and closing Groove on my phone because it would only import about 250 songs at a time from OneDrive. So, after it did that (and said all song were imported - which was a lie). I closed Groove, opened it and left it at the forefront with my finger on the screen to stop the phone sleeping. Eventually, after a day and a half, all my OneDrive music is back on my X3.
    Neat! I may want to try this later. Tks

    On a humorous note, you do know that you can defeat the sleep function, right? It beats having to spend a day and a half keeping a finger on the screen to avoid the phone from sleeping.[ I know, I know...I just couldn't resist! LOL]
    01-25-2018 02:17 PM
  11. nate0's Avatar
    Neat! I may want to try this later. Tks

    On a humorous note, you do know that you can defeat the sleep function, right? It beats having to spend a day and a half keeping a finger on the screen to avoid the phone from sleeping.[ I know, I know...I just couldn't resist! LOL]
    By default the x3 has a max timeout for the screen lock of 30 min only.
    01-25-2018 07:25 PM
  12. Ektalog's Avatar
    By default the x3 has a max timeout for the screen lock of 30 min only.
    Bummer! I thought Interop Tools would work on the x3 also. I think that's what allowed for "Never" to become an available option in my L1020.
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    01-25-2018 07:43 PM
  13. Joe920's Avatar
    I renamed it whilst being logged in to OneDrive on my PC and used the OneDrive website to rename it.
    Cool, thanks for the suggestion!
    01-25-2018 08:41 PM
  14. nate0's Avatar
    Bummer! I thought Interop Tools would work on the x3 also. I think that's what allowed for "Never" to become an available option in my L1020.
    It does work. But most dont go that far to unlock their device that way...
    01-25-2018 11:05 PM
  15. Ryujingt3's Avatar
    Bummer! I thought Interop Tools would work on the x3 also. I think that's what allowed for "Never" to become an available option in my L1020.
    This is why I had to keep my finger on the screen. As amusing as it sounds. Even the NoSleep app doesn't seem to change this on the X3. Can you at least use Interops Tools on the X3 to turn off the camera shutter sound?

    Cool, thanks for the suggestion!
    Good luck. If it works, let us know.

    In other news, BuildFeed now shows this:

    10.0.15254.212 (feature2.180126-1700).

    This is a canary build. Does that mean that we still may get an updated build soon?
    01-30-2018 07:12 PM
  16. milkyway's Avatar
    This is why I had to keep my finger on the screen. As amusing as it sounds. Even the NoSleep app doesn't seem to change this on the X3. Can you at least use Interops Tools on the X3 to turn off the camera shutter sound?



    Good luck. If it works, let us know.

    In other news, BuildFeed now shows this:

    10.0.15254.212 (feature2.180126-1700).

    This is a canary build. Does that mean that we still may get an updated build soon?
    I can only repeat the official update policy of MS: We will get updates to W10M 1709 till 2019 or 2020.
    These updates will include bugfixes and security updates, but no new features. So, yes, we will get new builds. Just no Insider builds and no builds that up the build number above 15254
    01-31-2018 07:08 AM
  17. Ryujingt3's Avatar
    I can only repeat the official update policy of MS: We will get updates to W10M 1709 till 2019 or 2020.
    These updates will include bugfixes and security updates, but no new features. So, yes, we will get new builds. Just no Insider builds and no builds that up the build number above 15254
    Well, I guess you were right.

    Insider Program is all over for mobile.

    https://www.windowscentral.com/windo...t-bang-whimper

    We all expected this though. Kind of harsh that anyone who wants to revert to Production (not sure why because it's the same as Insider) still has to completely reformat their device.

    It's been a great ride. Luckily we still get something though, like you said, @milkyway.

    If MS did let us somehow flash Android (never) then that would at least be something.
    01-31-2018 07:26 AM
  18. nate0's Avatar
    @Ryujingt3
    So gus33000 released a new update for the store version of Interop Tools. You can still use provider extensions, which I would recommend using if you do not want to push cab files to your Elite X3, but there is a new option (Experiemental) and it uses the local devices runtime components. So essentially all Nokia models would have full registy access using the new updated store version.
    01-31-2018 09:21 PM
  19. milkyway's Avatar
    Well, I guess you were right.

    Insider Program is all over for mobile.

    https://www.windowscentral.com/windo...t-bang-whimper

    We all expected this though. Kind of harsh that anyone who wants to revert to Production (not sure why because it's the same as Insider) still has to completely reformat their device.

    It's been a great ride. Luckily we still get something though, like you said, @milkyway.

    If MS did let us somehow flash Android (never) then that would at least be something.
    As far as I know you don't have to format your device to jump off the Insider train. Just choose the option "Keep giving me builds until the next Windows release"
    02-01-2018 09:48 AM
  20. Ryujingt3's Avatar
    As far as I know you don't have to format your device to jump off the Insider train. Just choose the option "Keep giving me builds until the next Windows release"
    Right. And I'm probably wrong, but if there will be no more Insider Builds it's better to be on Production, right? In case Insider has some bugs or something. That's just my opinion. I did today notice that Groove Music got an update and we can now sync via OneDrive inside the Settings menu. That was removed and they seems to have put it back.

    This may help you, @Joe920. You can also manage your OneDrive music straight from the Groove Music app too.
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    02-01-2018 08:44 PM
  21. milkyway's Avatar
    Right. And I'm probably wrong, but if there will be no more Insider Builds it's better to be on Production, right? In case Insider has some bugs or something. That's just my opinion. I did today notice that Groove Music got an update and we can now sync via OneDrive inside the Settings menu. That was removed and they seems to have put it back.

    This may help you, @Joe920. You can also manage your OneDrive music straight from the Groove Music app too.
    Going forward there is no difference between being an Insider or not. It's the same builds you get. Maybe you will get app updates sooner when you are an Insider. On the other hand MS collects way too much information about you when you are an Insider so I would prefer being on production.
    With the new Groove Music update it's now possible to have the photo of the artist playing on your lockscreen! (or was it already there before?)
    02-02-2018 04:01 AM
  22. milkyway's Avatar
    Right. And I'm probably wrong, but if there will be no more Insider Builds it's better to be on Production, right? In case Insider has some bugs or something. That's just my opinion. I did today notice that Groove Music got an update and we can now sync via OneDrive inside the Settings menu. That was removed and they seems to have put it back.

    This may help you, @Joe920. You can also manage your OneDrive music straight from the Groove Music app too.
    Going forward there is no difference between being an Insider or not. It's the same builds you get. Maybe you will get app updates sooner when you are an Insider. On the other hand MS collects way too much information about you when you are an Insider so I would prefer being on production.
    With the new Groove Music update it's now possible to have the photo of the artist playing on your lockscreen! (or was it already there before?)
    02-02-2018 04:03 AM
  23. Ryujingt3's Avatar
    Going forward there is no difference between being an Insider or not. It's the same builds you get. Maybe you will get app updates sooner when you are an Insider. On the other hand MS collects way too much information about you when you are an Insider so I would prefer being on production.
    With the new Groove Music update it's now possible to have the photo of the artist playing on your lockscreen! (or was it already there before?)
    You are right. Artists photos can be on the lockscreen. I think that is actually something new!
    02-02-2018 04:41 AM
  24. milkyway's Avatar
    You are right. Artists photos can be on the lockscreen. I think that is actually something new!
    Another precursor of the upcoming Andromeda OS I presume
    02-02-2018 05:16 AM
  25. Joe920's Avatar
    Right. And I'm probably wrong, but if there will be no more Insider Builds it's better to be on Production, right? In case Insider has some bugs or something. That's just my opinion. I did today notice that Groove Music got an update and we can now sync via OneDrive inside the Settings menu. That was removed and they seems to have put it back.

    This may help you, @Joe920. You can also manage your OneDrive music straight from the Groove Music app too.
    Thanks for the heads up. I tried the folder renaming thing earlier (renamed the Music folder on onedrive.com, created a new Music folder. Turns out Groove on Win10 notices the rename and now 'looks for music' in the renamed folder. Removed that search location, set it to the new Music folder. I see it index 79 new tracks (the amount in that folder), then set the app to show 'Music on Onedrive'. Result: empty list. Maybe because I also have those files stored locally? But the iOS app also sees zero OneDrive tracks. Signed out on iOS and back in. Still nothing. Sigh... Thanks for the suggestions though!
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    02-02-2018 08:22 AM
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