08-18-2015 05:38 PM
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  1. realwarder's Avatar
    It's easy to list 5 items that haven't made it yet (of which about 2 are real) and forget about all the gains in WM10. There are probably 100's of improvements. Ranging from a modern more compatible web browser and Astoria which will bring 1000's of apps to the platform to smaller ones like APIs to display Wi-Fi signal strength from apps. Even within things like Cortana are stacks of improvements. Can you track packages and send emails via Cortana in WP8.1? No. Well she does a lot more in 10. Everything does more, with a few exceptions which will get addressed as the apps are improved.
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    08-15-2015 07:35 AM
  2. Krystianpants's Avatar
    *You can use it with one hand. It even brings the screen down if you hold the windows button. And you can bring it back up by holding it again. If you're referring to the hamburger menu versus ellipses, how is this even comparable to android or ios when they both have the same setup.
    *Calendar is fine you're just slow
    *Edge works on everything, show me something it does not work on then we can talk. It's also blazing fast.
    *FB sync happens within the fb application, you have to enable it.
    *difficult to clear notifications? do yo have any fingers? You slide to the right. If you want to clear a whole category, you slide the category name to the right. Oh wait... you were probably doing it one by one... lol.
    *Here drive/maps all there
    *No customization of sounds? What are you talking about, go to the user profile and you can have ring/text sounds. Also, you can create your own sounds using ringmaker which comes with it. There's many places. Once again you just enjoy whining because it's cool to do it.
    *Call history has a search icon at the bottom, what are you on?
    *settings for apps should be in the apps section, not sure what you're complaining about. People setup their app in the app not in a settings page. This makes way more sense for anyone who deals with UI.
    *accounts for google can be added in the accounts section as mine is. You can then select to use it in outlook.

    *integrating straight into the OS is the dumbest thing a company can do. If fb makes a change do you want to wait 2 months for an OS update or a week for the app to be updated? The APIS take care of the integration and any app can do it if the application developer decides to. It's not Microsoft's job.

    Windows 10 mobile is far better than 8.1. And if you think otherwise you haven't actually learned to use it. You have 0 valid complaints. If it sucks on your phone, well that's just the way it is. My 830 runs it perfectly with no issues. And make sure you're on the right build.

    Only thing I agree with is that the UI needs to be consistent. One place has hamburger menus, another place has ellipses, etc. Outlook is pretty ugly with those thin cogs and send buttons etc.. But it's still not finished so won't really say much. Hell even Windows Desktop isn't finished yet, just stable.
    08-15-2015 07:39 AM
  3. kokola's Avatar
    Missed the time when Nokia still produced WP.
    A lot of features and innovation introduced by them.
    -Glance
    -Double tap to wake
    -Folder app
    -Pureview
    -Lumia Camera etc

    After the sale of the D&S by Nokia, no new features (or too slow to introduce) by MS
    08-15-2015 07:55 AM
  4. juanitoriv's Avatar
    Windows 10 mobile is far better than 8.1. And if you think otherwise you haven't actually learned to use it. You have 0 valid complaints. If it sucks on your phone, well that's just the way it is. My 830 runs it perfectly with no issues. And make sure you're on the right build.

    Only thing I agree with is that the UI needs to be consistent. One place has hamburger menus, another place has ellipses, etc. Outlook is pretty ugly with those thin cogs and send buttons etc.. But it's still not finished so won't really say much. Hell even Windows Desktop isn't finished yet, just stable.
    I couldn't have said it better myself, unless I used copious amounts of profane language to bring into question OP's apparent checkered parentage!!

    The UI does need its consistency back. I'm using the feedback app so much, it'll probably replace 9gag as my most used. And that includes on the PC. Isn't it weird that the Mobile version is just so much better than the PC's??

    Ooooh, speaking of functionality and what not.. Did you get a chubby when you saw the print to PDF function in Maps & Office, AND an even bigger one when you played with Outlook's new ways to open AND attach files to mail??? I mean it's fricking fixed!!! Almost had to toss one off!!!
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    08-15-2015 07:59 AM
  5. juanitoriv's Avatar
    Missed the time when Nokia still produced WP.
    A lot of features and innovation introduced by them.
    -Glance
    -Double tap to wake
    -Folder app
    -Pureview
    -Lumia Camera etc

    After the sale of the D&S by Nokia, no new features (or too slow to introduce) by MS
    Yo, that just means you're not looking hard enough.
    08-15-2015 08:01 AM
  6. Darryl Dixon's Avatar
    Windows is always one step behind in features, marketing, and prioritizing. Windows 10 Mobile is in my opinion at least a year away from being a reliable, stable, full featured OS. They've been working on this thing for over a year now and they can't even get pass the start screen constantly in loading status? SMH!
    08-15-2015 09:48 AM
  7. gpobernardo's Avatar
    Why is W10M lacking features? Because it is still unfinished.
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    08-15-2015 09:51 AM
  8. kokola's Avatar
    Yo, that just means you're not looking hard enough.
    I mean new features or new innovations to be introduced...like the canceled 3d touch.
    08-15-2015 10:42 AM
  9. kokola's Avatar
    Why is W10M lacking features? Because it is still unfinished.

    In an interview with The Verge Windows head Joe Belfiore confirmed this, saying:

    “The phone is significantly feature complete, but we’ll continue to polish and tweak and iterate the things that still need to work.”
    gpobernardo likes this.
    08-15-2015 10:45 AM
  10. TheCudder's Avatar
    Both Windows 10 & Windows 10 Mobile offer a rather basic set of features at the moment. I really think they dropped the ball by slowing of so many features that didn't make the cut at RTM, and it'll be the same story for mobile. We just keep getting the "...in a future update" line.
    08-15-2015 10:56 AM
  11. Krystianpants's Avatar
    How? Windows home does at least not give me any one hand mode on my L925.


    And how do you fast clear lets say all Whatsup messages but keep some emails?


    I have weeknumbers in WP8.1 but not in W10M.


    Not on my L925 (after a hard reset). Still no HERE apps at all (and they are not in the store either).


    I.e. FB sync to a ME tile is not existing any more.


    Why can you not just change the ring tone fast and simple directly (per contact) in the phone app?



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    Lets not hold our breaths


    And, the dialpad is so bad in W10M that it worse than HTC from 2009
    Already told you how to clear only whatsapp messages. You swipe the word whatsapp. The top category. Very simple thing that my friends nephew figured out at 5 years old.

    I just went to those websites and they work fine. I can even go to expressen and watch the tv section etc...

    my guess is: You are not on the latest build or you haven't gone in the store and checked for all app updates.

    per contact works. You are seriously running on the wrong build. 10512 is a 2 step process to get to if you are upgrading from 8.1. You need to first get 10661 and then you can upgrade to 10512.
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    08-15-2015 11:38 AM
  12. gpobernardo's Avatar
    In an interview with The Verge Windows head Joe Belfiore confirmed this, saying:

    “The phone is significantly feature complete, but we’ll continue to polish and tweak and iterate the things that still need to work.”
    So... do you agree or disagree? Belfiore, according to your post, is saying that Windows 10 isn't finished yet since it still needs to be polished, tweaked and iterated. As for "significantly feature-complete", it's tricky to determine with certainty what a person in his position really meant. What is "feature-complete"? And why use "significantly"? What is "significant"? Besides, what may be "complete" or "significant" for Belfiore may not be "complete" or "significant" for others, especially the critics. It's a corporate answer, and is different from plainly saying, "Windows 10 Mobile is complete and is ready for public release." It's this kind of statement that thicken the plot; it stirs up opinion among the critics and solicits hope among the faithful.
    08-15-2015 01:39 PM
  13. kokola's Avatar
    So... do you agree or disagree? Belfiore, according to your post, is saying that Windows 10 isn't finished yet since it still needs to be polished, tweaked and iterated. As for "significantly feature-complete", it's tricky to determine with certainty what a person in his position really meant. What is "feature-complete"? And why use "significantly"? What is "significant"? Besides, what may be "complete" or "significant" for Belfiore may not be "complete" or "significant" for others, especially the critics. It's a corporate answer, and is different from plainly saying, "Windows 10 Mobile is complete and is ready for public release." It's this kind of statement that thicken the plot; it stirs up opinion among the critics and solicits hope among the faithful.
    Or maybe he meant what he said.
    LOL...I'm not a language expert but you are analyzing it too much.
    08-15-2015 02:05 PM
  14. awsomsauce's Avatar
    Or maybe he meant what he said.
    LOL...I'm not a language expert but you are analyzing it too much.
    Or he means that the current TP is feature complete and no new features will be added until after it's released. How did the interviewer ask the question? That could answer the question for us.

    From what I've been reading, W10M and W10 will act in the same way as Xbox does now, with monthly updates that will add in new features as time goes on.
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    08-15-2015 08:16 PM
  15. mikepalma's Avatar
    Cheap $100 android tap to pay.....
    08-15-2015 08:18 PM
  16. desaideas1's Avatar
    i'm sure it has to do with all of the features being rewritten in Asp.net 5, or typescript whichever they are using (I believe typescript).

    A major complaint for me is not custom notification sounds for text messages or app notifications. At least in this build text and notifications have different sounds...was driving me mad getting same sound for both notification types.
    08-15-2015 10:10 PM
  17. gpobernardo's Avatar
    i'm sure it has to do with all of the features being rewritten in Asp.net 5, or typescript whichever they are using (I believe typescript).

    A major complaint for me is not custom notification sounds for text messages or app notifications. At least in this build text and notifications have different sounds...was driving me mad getting same sound for both notification types.
    Aren't we already able to set custom notifications for different system events in Windows Phone 8.1, e.g. different notification sound for SMS, for call, for different apps with each app having a different sound?
    08-15-2015 11:08 PM
  18. shadow118's Avatar
    I have weeknumbers in WP8.1 but not in W10M.
    I don't really use the calendar app, but just checked, in the calendar settings you can enable week numbers
    08-16-2015 02:17 AM
  19. taymur's Avatar
    1) How? Windows home does at least not give me any one hand mode on my L925.
    2) And how do you fast clear lets say all Whatsup messages but keep some emails?
    3) I have weeknumbers in WP8.1 but not in W10M.
    4) Not on my L925 (after a hard reset). Still no HERE apps at all (and they are not in the store either).
    5) I.e. FB sync to a ME tile is not existing any more.
    6) Why can you not just change the ring tone fast and simple directly (per contact) in the phone app?
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    Lets not hold our breaths
    8)And, the dialpad is so bad in W10M that it worse than HTC from 2009
    1) if you want to reach the top left corner, hold windows key, the left hand corner moves to the middle of the screen, very nice, i use it a lot.
    2) this part was hugely improved over wp8.1, you can either clear all notification, or specific app notifications, or even single notifications within the app, so if you want to clear WhatsApp notifications, just swipe the word WhatsApp from left to right.
    3) there is a drop down list in the settings that is dedicated to weeknumbers.
    4) Here maps are available, you are now just being stubborn.
    5) Microsoft couldn't keep up with the changes that facebook are doing in their backend, so they dropped this feature, but hey, no other OS does that anyway.
    6) each contact can have their special ringtone, easily.
    7) i am not sure about you, but the websites look fine to me.
    8) the dialpad is just the same.
    08-16-2015 02:57 AM
  20. shadow118's Avatar
    1) if you want to reach the top left corner, hold windows key, the left hand corner moves to the middle of the screen, very nice, i use it a lot.
    4) Here maps are available, you are now just being stubborn.
    6) each contact can have their special ringtone, easily.
    1) Isn't that limited to certain size phones? I don't have that on my 620 (not that I need it)
    4) They aren't available for me neither. When searching for HERE Maps or HERE Drive in the store, nothing comes up. All I got is Windows maps, which I'd be fine with if pinch to zoom worked (now it's double tap to zoom or single two-finger tap to unzoom)
    6) How can I set my default SMS tone? I know, you can set individual tones for everyone but I can't find and option to change the defailt SMS tone, I can only change the ringtone :(
    08-16-2015 05:04 AM
  21. taymur's Avatar
    1) Isn't that limited to certain size phones? I don't have that on my 620 (not that I need it)
    4) They aren't available for me neither. When searching for HERE Maps or HERE Drive in the store, nothing comes up. All I got is Windows maps, which I'd be fine with if pinch to zoom worked (now it's double tap to zoom or single two-finger tap to unzoom)
    6) How can I set my default SMS tone? I know, you can set individual tones for everyone but I can't find and option to change the defailt SMS tone, I can only change the ringtone :(
    I stand corrected,

    i don't know about your 620, but my 930 does it.

    here maps where when my phone when i upgraded, but true, i cant find them in the store... btw i use WAZE

    default ringtones is easy, default sms tones i never tried that, i don't use SMS any way.

    apologies if i mislead anyone.
    08-16-2015 07:26 AM
  22. Maaz Mansori's Avatar
    1) Isn't that limited to certain size phones? I don't have that on my 620 (not that I need it)
    4) They aren't available for me neither. When searching for HERE Maps or HERE Drive in the store, nothing comes up. All I got is Windows maps, which I'd be fine with if pinch to zoom worked (now it's double tap to zoom or single two-finger tap to unzoom)
    6) How can I set my default SMS tone? I know, you can set individual tones for everyone but I can't find and option to change the defailt SMS tone, I can only change the ringtone :(
    I have a 1520. It's possible that the one-handed feature is limited to larger phones. In regards to HERE Maps and HERE Drive, I think there might be more to it than what we are thinking. My carrier is AT&T and their apps as well as HERE Maps and HERE Drive are automatically installing for me after a hard reset; however, the apps are not listed in the store. It's possible which apps automatically install are dependent upon the carrier. There are some other apps not available in the store though the majority seem to be there. It may be possible that Microsoft wants them updated for Windows 10 before appearing in the Windows 10 store for whatever reason.
    I've posted the instructions for changing the default SMS tone before. Go to Settings/System/Notifications & Actions. Under "Show notifications from these apps", touch on the text that says "Messaging" Here you can change the Notification sound.
    08-16-2015 07:48 AM
  23. juanitoriv's Avatar
    Hey, I'm tired of reading about these arguments And frankly, I'm disappointed, because I read about this last week.

    The one-hand operation by holding start is limited to phones 5" or larger. If you have one, you should also be able to move your keyboard by dragging it.

    Again, this is a feature set for devices 5" or larger!!!!!

    As for the HERE and maybe some of the other apps. Go and install SysApp Pusher. Using this you should be able to snatch your precious babies back
    08-16-2015 08:26 AM
  24. shadow118's Avatar
    Go to Settings/System/Notifications & Actions. Under "Show notifications from these apps", touch on the text that says "Messaging" Here you can change the Notification sound.
    I don't have Messaging there :( Only Endomondo, Outlook Mail and some NokiaCorporation.DeviceHub thing. I can change sounds for those three, but that's all that shows up there.
    I've got an unlocked phone, carriers aren't really a thing here (I'm from Latvia)

    As for the HERE and maybe some of the other apps. Go and install SysApp Pusher. Using this you should be able to snatch your precious babies back
    Just tried that. It opens the store page for HERE maps or drive, but the Install button is greyed out and it says, the app is no longer available.
    08-16-2015 10:03 AM
  25. Maaz Mansori's Avatar
    I don't have Messaging there :( Only Endomondo, Outlook Mail and some NokiaCorporation.DeviceHub thing. I can change sounds for those three, but that's all that shows up there.
    I've got an unlocked phone, carriers aren't really a thing here (I'm from Latvia)
    It should typically show up after you receive your first text message, just like other apps will as soon as they first send you a toast notification. Did you just do a hard reset and not receive any text messages yet, by chance?
    08-16-2015 10:12 AM
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