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  1. ciban's Avatar
    I may be wrong, but I believe that the insider preview programm has done much worse than well. I mean the expectations were put at a very high level. After all, a bunch of MS insiders coud have tested the OS very well and had it on the market when it was really ready. The +/- could have been very well be seen by this team. I believe something was not working very well at MS phone dept. Well, the future will show us what had happened there
    12-15-2015 03:08 AM
  2. Ian_Superfly's Avatar
    i believe the best way it was to just say that windows 10 will come to mobile phones also and stay there. Putting timetable and saying it will be released at that date on or off makes things worse. Now everyone waits and asks the same question everyday. Because of poland leak that said 14 december everything after that is a fail. It will come when it comes and they feel its ready.
    A major problem for MS is that they have less than 2% market share. As market share declines from day to day, any further delay of W10M (and a REAL focus on the phones) reduces the already small chances of success. While MS is stuck in the development the competition steams ahead at full speed.

    And, the signal value of a MS focusing more on iOS/Android than their own phones is not good…
    12-15-2015 04:26 AM
  3. khaled22's Avatar
    They forced Nokia to sell and abandon symbian with very slow steps of upgrades and they are doing the same thing. They don't put much focus and effort on mob os. What they achieve on devices which are excellent they destroy it with slow os growth. They are concentrating more on other projects.
    12-15-2015 04:34 AM
  4. emjey's Avatar
    Don't trust on Microsoft.
    They make always late in update of mobile.
    They prefer PC only not mobile.
    Microsoft says firstly, October /November for Lumia 640 again they says December.

    And
    Now I think, they postpond December to January for official update for Lumia 640.
    After the screen of my 730 broke, I went ahead with 640XL against 730 just cause I believed what MS said that 640 series would receive the 10 update early, and now its already postponed twice
    12-15-2015 04:36 AM
  5. emjey's Avatar
    I may be wrong, but I believe that the insider preview programm has done much worse than well. I mean the expectations were put at a very high level. After all, a bunch of MS insiders coud have tested the OS very well and had it on the market when it was really ready. The +/- could have been very well be seen by this team. I believe something was not working very well at MS phone dept. Well, the future will show us what had happened there
    Always felt that 8.1 insider program was better than the current W10M. Well planned and structured. This current insider program has been running for the last 10 months and still with no official release. Lazy *** MS! Now the current date for release is actually set to after Christmas and before year end, I believe.
    12-15-2015 04:40 AM
  6. a5cent's Avatar
    ^ Keep this thread on topic please.

    This thread is not about Symbian, what MS did or did not do or should have done. It's not about market share or whether the insider preview did more harm than help.

    It's about release dates. Currently nobody has any reliable information to share on that issue, beyond what is already mentioned in the first two posts.
    esackbauer, emjey, libra89 and 1 others like this.
    12-15-2015 04:40 AM
  7. GeorgeX's Avatar
    If it won't be released on December, shouldn't they have already announced the delay? I think (and hope) the release is very close.
    emjey likes this.
    12-15-2015 05:54 AM
  8. emjey's Avatar
    If it won't be released on December, shouldn't they have already announced the delay? I think (and hope) the release is very close.
    Good point! And also if u closely observe the article, 10586.29 build pulled out, you would notice MS has said it pulled the update from its public servers? Is public isn't the non-insider? So may be when the fix happens in a day or two, we shud be receiving the update. 640 holders, rejoice!
    12-15-2015 05:58 AM
  9. ciban's Avatar
    Do you think the 10586.29 build ( the insider one) was sent from "private servers" ? Ha,ha! This is what I call wishfull thinking.
    12-15-2015 06:09 AM
  10. skt_diaz's Avatar
    I don't have any hope for a December release. If they can fix the issue with L950 updates quickly then probably we can see the update before year end
    12-15-2015 06:09 AM
  11. X54TH's Avatar
    It's so typical of MS. Amazing to see there are a few of us hanging on. I just hope it's worth the wait.

    So, this is a pretty big thread. I have some of my employees on Lumia 810 through Rogers. Did I read correctly that they will never get the W10 official release? I trust my unbranded Lumia 930 is eligible?
    12-15-2015 07:34 AM
  12. ML10's Avatar
    It's so typical of MS. Amazing to see there are a few of us hanging on. I just hope it's worth the wait.

    So, this is a pretty big thread. I have some of my employees on Lumia 810 through Rogers. Did I read correctly that they will never get the W10 official release? I trust my unbranded Lumia 930 is eligible?
    The 930 will definitely get it.
    12-15-2015 09:16 AM
  13. a5cent's Avatar
    I have some of my employees on Lumia 810 through Rogers. Did I read correctly that they will never get the W10 official release? I trust my unbranded Lumia 930 is eligible?
    Both times: Yes.

    You are mistaken only in assuming anything has occurred which we could label "typical MS". Don't let the misguided nerd rage in this thread confuse you.

    As long as the first WP8.1 devices start receiving W10M OTA sometime this month (that doesn't mean everyone will receive the update this year), MS will have done exactly what they said they would.

    All the people hanging their heads here are doing so weeks before we've reached MS' target deadline. Makes no sense, but it is what it is....
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    12-15-2015 10:27 AM
  14. instantk's Avatar
    My logic
    6+4+0=10=1+9
    So lumia 640 might be the first device to receive the update, on 19th..
    xandros9 likes this.
    12-15-2015 12:05 PM
  15. prasanna moholkar's Avatar
    My logic
    6+4+0=10=1+9
    So lumia 640 might be the first device to receive the update, on 19th..
    Nice but,
    May be 28 December or may be Microsoft give Christmas 🎅 gift 🎁 to all.
    12-15-2015 12:19 PM
  16. chamara silva1's Avatar
    I doubt windows 10 mobile won't make it in December.They are still lost, look at the new insider preview update it's totally a mess.
    12-15-2015 12:25 PM
  17. Wooziw's Avatar
    My logic
    9+2+5=16=1+15
    So lumia 925 already got it ;) :D


    Lets just wait for the official release
    xandros9 likes this.
    12-15-2015 12:26 PM
  18. grantpwarren's Avatar
    Stop guessing and just be patient...
    Wooziw likes this.
    12-15-2015 12:35 PM
  19. Akssingh's Avatar
    Stop guessing and just be patient...
    "be patient", ? Seriously? Its almost more than a year now insider program...... WP8.1's development was WAY too fast and stable ..... With no insiders to test it out.... And on the other hand we have win 10 mobile.... More than a year in developing and still feels like beta...... And they just don't want to release it now.... C'mon ... How can you be so patient.. ... Teasing and rumours adding salt on wounds.
    ML10 and emjey like this.
    12-15-2015 01:36 PM
  20. ads13's Avatar
    Here's my logic
    Lumia 5+3+5=> 13+12=25 or 13+15=28 of this month .. Yay!!!
    12-15-2015 02:15 PM
  21. Akssingh's Avatar
    What about my logic:-
    2*4=8
    8-9=-1
    -1+21=20
    So 29th is the date..... Yay.....
    12-15-2015 02:35 PM
  22. chris_the_jedi's Avatar
    I need to revert back to the last build of 8.1 because the most recent Insider preview for W10M really buggered up my messaging and email. Then I'm just going to sit back a wait patiently for the official 640 W10M update. *patiently= throwing a tantrum until it finally gets here*
    12-15-2015 03:57 PM
  23. xandros9's Avatar
    C'mon, we all know its going to be on the 42nd.
    12-15-2015 04:28 PM
  24. X54TH's Avatar
    So just to confirm the 830's on Rogers are not getting W10?
    12-15-2015 06:00 PM
  25. jlwaters11's Avatar
    I honestly can't wait until W10 mobile, I just picked up a Lumia 640, and quite frankly I like it MUCH better than my Sony Xperia Z I was using for the past 2.5 years. I really like Windows 8.1, but would like to have similar APP's between my phone and Surface 3. I hope we get it before Christmas that would be fantastic.
    12-15-2015 06:54 PM
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