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  1. a5cent's Avatar
    Which defeats the advantage to having a country variant device, surely they should get updates first
    I wouldn't blame anybody for thinking that, but that is incorrect.

    You are right that carriers don't control the update process for country variants directly. However, country variants are never amongst the first devices to be udpated. More often than not they are amongst the last.

    MS is ALWAYS the entity that flicks the switch that releases the update to the masses. That's even true for those updates that carriers control (carriers control it legally, not technically). However, MS will not flick the switch for country variants, until at least a few carriers with similar models have signed off on the update. That's just a cautionary measure.

    In that sense, carriers at least heavily influence the release dates for all devices. Even for country variants.
    Last edited by a5cent; 01-15-2016 at 02:07 AM.
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    01-14-2016 04:13 PM
  2. ajj3085's Avatar
    I'm being realistic and talking from experience and reality. I don't like it either. The worst part is phones without denim can't get WM10 (my 1020 can't officially get). That's the reason I'm on insider program
    So I guess my 920 won't ever officially get it.
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    01-14-2016 05:26 PM
  3. owensdj's Avatar
    Who invented this only this and that phone on this and that carrier BS you have in the states? Here in Norway any phone can be used with any carrier. I can buy a phone tied to a carrier for like a year at a cheaper price, but when the year is done I can unlock that phone and use it with any carrier...

    Could not imagine anything else.
    Here in the USA we can also unlock phones from a carrier after a specified time.
    01-14-2016 05:36 PM
  4. ML10's Avatar
    If TMO in Poland and the Netherlands release in a timeframe of a week or so, will TMO U.S. follow that same update layout? Have a 640 on TMO here in the US
    01-14-2016 05:52 PM
  5. ajj3085's Avatar
    same Here, I Wonder Why Microsoft is maintaining dead silence on this matter
    Because ultimately it's not up to them, its up to the carriers.
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    01-14-2016 05:57 PM
  6. ajj3085's Avatar
    Which defeats the advantage to having a country variant device, surely they should get updates first
    The advantage is not getting it first, its that you'll get it at all. My phone never got denim because of my carrier.
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    01-14-2016 06:00 PM
  7. libra89's Avatar
    If TMO in Poland and the Netherlands release in a timeframe of a week or so, will TMO U.S. follow that same update layout? Have a 640 on TMO here in the US
    Apparently those T-mobile branches behave differently from the U.S. branch. Considering that they only sold the 640 for 2 months, I doubt it.
    01-14-2016 07:35 PM
  8. skt_diaz's Avatar
    Hope they release it soon. I can finally stop looking for news and dates in wc and wmpu
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    01-14-2016 09:01 PM
  9. slooksterpsv's Avatar
    Because ultimately it's not up to them, its up to the carriers.
    That's mostly true. If they're unlocked phones then it's generally up to the manufacturer of the phone.
    01-14-2016 09:48 PM
  10. Asik15's Avatar
    Because ultimately it's not up to them, its up to the carriers.
    I'm talking about country variants which is controlled directly by Microsoft
    01-14-2016 10:19 PM
  11. albert730's Avatar
    After seeing the "updateadvisor" app from Microsoft going live in the store, it can be assumed that the update is coming real soon.
    01-14-2016 10:22 PM
  12. djeire84's Avatar
    After seeing the "updateadvisor" app from Microsoft going live in the store, it can be assumed that the update is coming real soon.


    I downloaded it and I have to say its an impressive app. Now I haven't been able to fully utilise it as the update hasn't become available yet but it is a bit better looking then the generic "phone update" in the settings area.
    01-14-2016 10:32 PM
  13. sumanthsuresh's Avatar
    I downloaded it and I have to say its an impressive app. Now I haven't been able to fully utilise it as the update hasn't become available yet but it is a bit better looking then the generic "phone update" in the settings area.
    I have been trying to use the app it crashes
    01-14-2016 10:50 PM
  14. djeire84's Avatar
    I have been trying to use the app it crashes

    What version of windows phone do you have? I think it is only optimised for wp8.1 and running Denim firmware.
    01-14-2016 10:51 PM
  15. prasanna moholkar's Avatar
    Windows 10 Mobile rolling out right now to the Lumia 535 in Latin America - https://t.co/UnyuNXv7D4 https://t.co/6OLdjoQMPw
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    01-15-2016 02:15 AM
  16. a5cent's Avatar
    I'm talking about country variants which is controlled directly by Microsoft
    As mentioned already, with a country variant you will usually get updates later than others. You'll almost never be amongst the first. At least that is how it's been so far.


    Hanging out here, expecting to be one of the first, will probably lead to disappointments too.
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    01-15-2016 02:18 AM
  17. instantk's Avatar
    Windows 10 Mobile rolling out right now to the Lumia 535 in Latin America - https://t.co/UnyuNXv7D4 https://t.co/6OLdjoQMPw
    First Europe, then South America...
    Hope next is Asia....specifically India...
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    01-15-2016 02:34 AM
  18. prasanna moholkar's Avatar
    MS should prefer Asia for update as windows phone user are more here compare to other.
    01-15-2016 03:58 AM
  19. Harrie-S's Avatar
    MS should prefer Asia for update as windows phone user are more here compare to other.
    Or is it because you live in Asia?
    01-15-2016 04:16 AM
  20. Alexandre Coelho's Avatar
    Brasil is one of the biggest markets for Windows Phones and so far,no updates here!so,i dont believe they would ''prefer'' to release the update to this or that country!
    01-15-2016 06:09 AM
  21. JimmyShoes's Avatar
    Agreed.

    They don't even have Cortana in portuguese after all these years. Microsoft's business decisions makes no sense to me sometimes.
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    01-15-2016 06:59 AM
  22. NVMY03ION's Avatar
    Agreed.

    They don't even have Cortana in portuguese after all these years. Microsoft's business decisions makes no sense to me sometimes.
    That decision isn't ALL Microsoft. some of it is also Country laws.
    01-15-2016 07:00 AM
  23. JimmyShoes's Avatar
    That decision isn't ALL Microsoft. some of it is also Country laws.

    What the hell are you talking about?
    01-15-2016 07:01 AM
  24. ajj3085's Avatar
    That's mostly true. If they're unlocked phones then it's generally up to the manufacturer of the phone.
    Even then only factory unlocked; my understanding is that a branded phone, even unlocked, still has the carrier controlling updates.
    01-15-2016 08:48 AM
  25. Asik15's Avatar
    Before March, Microsoft has started the update with lumia 535 Already.
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    01-15-2016 09:36 AM
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