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  1. a5cent's Avatar
    ^ PfD program is dead.
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    10-01-2015 03:38 AM
  2. Blade800's Avatar
    ^ PfD program is dead.
    Source?
    10-11-2015 03:42 PM
  3. a5cent's Avatar
    Source?
    It has been supplanted by the insider preview program. I'd say it's rather apparent even without a blogger on the internet confirming this however, since MS hasn't released a PfD build in ages...

    I remember reading about this rebranding at the time, but I can't remember where. Sorry. You'll have to find it yourself.
    10-11-2015 03:44 PM
  4. Blade800's Avatar
    It has been supplanted by the insider preview program. I'd say it's rather apparent even without a blogger on the internet confirming this however, since MS hasn't released a PfD build in ages...

    I remember reading about this rebranding at the time, but I can't remember where. Sorry. You'll have to find it yourself.
    Interesting, cause I think Ive heard something different and that Technical Preview is far more diferent than Preview for developers so the final product would still be Preview for developers when the OS is ready but not officially released. Like 8.1 was
    10-12-2015 02:37 PM
  5. a5cent's Avatar
    ^ I think the situation on W10 is another good indicator of what to expect. No PfD there either.
    10-13-2015 12:06 AM
  6. kunal tipre's Avatar
    Do Lumia 520 (512mb ram) will able to get RTM build?
    10-13-2015 12:56 AM
  7. a5cent's Avatar
    Do Lumia 520 (512mb ram) will able to get RTM build?
    Look at the list of excluded devices in post #2. Your L520 is not listed! That means it is currently expected to receive the update to W10M final (provided your carrier distributes it).
    10-13-2015 01:04 AM
  8. CaptainLumia's Avatar
    Any updates on 950/950XL release dates? We're getting close to Nov and I'm getting excited (ok, anxious).
    10-20-2015 12:02 PM
  9. a5cent's Avatar
    Any updates on 950/950XL release dates? We're getting close to Nov and I'm getting excited (ok, anxious).
    I'm not aware of anything that isn't already in the first post. If somebody else is I hope they make themselves heard!
    10-20-2015 01:50 PM
  10. Krystianpants's Avatar
    Can we assume/expect, from your first table, that UNLOCKED international version phones would be included in the "RTM (W10M final released to OEMs)"?

    As with Windows 10, the final technical preview build 10240 was essentially the RTM build.
    Unlocked purchased from ms will likely get them quicker. Unlocked purchased else where is still subject to the carrier the device was unlocked from. Unlocked simply means someone paid to allow other carrier usage. But device is still programmed to get updates from original carrier. My brother gets his updates on unlocked 925 from Italian carrier.
    10-20-2015 01:59 PM
  11. Krystianpants's Avatar
    I'm not aware of anything that isn't already in the first post. If somebody else is I hope they make themselves heard!
    Canadian 950/xl availability will be December. My guess is they will come with rtm.
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    10-20-2015 02:00 PM
  12. Krystianpants's Avatar
    Look at the list of excluded devices in post #2. Your L520 is not listed! That means it is currently expected to receive the update to W10M final (provided your carrier distributes it).
    It should be noted that 512mb devices are expected to have less features.
    a5cent likes this.
    10-20-2015 02:02 PM
  13. a5cent's Avatar
    Canadian 950/xl availability will be December. My guess is they will come with rtm.
    I edited the 1st post to reflect that November would be the earliest these devices will become available. I hope people will forgive me for not wanting to list availability for every country separately ;-)

    It should be noted that 512mb devices are expected to have less features.
    Any source I could link to? It's not that I don't believe you, but I don't want to put anything into the first post without being able to back it up.
    10-20-2015 02:31 PM
  14. Krystianpants's Avatar
    I edited the 1st post to reflect that November would be the earliest these devices will become available. I hope people will forgive me for not wanting to list availability for every country separately ;-)



    Any source I could link to? It's not that I don't believe you, but I don't want to put anything into the first post without being able to back it up.
    Windows 10 Mobile functions limited for 512MB devices suggests leaked document
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    10-20-2015 05:13 PM
  15. a5cent's Avatar
    It should be noted that 512mb devices are expected to have less features.
    Thanks. However, looking through that document, I don't think it's correct to say 512MB devices will be missing any features.

    According to that document, 512 MB devices will just regularly be under pressure to free up memory for whatever the user wants to do next, meaning the OS will have to do more memory management work, meaning that there will be situations were the device won't perform as well as its 1 GB counterparts. I think that's entirely expected. In fact, most of the points listed in that document already apply to WP8.1 today, so I don't think this warrants specific mention for W10M.
    10-20-2015 05:37 PM
  16. lala042883's Avatar
    I like the look of windows 10 I just got the Lumia 521 for metro pcs just so I can have windows again
    10-23-2015 08:59 PM
  17. aliencatos's Avatar
    is it a good idea to buy a lumia 950 if windows 10 is not even RTM ???
    11-01-2015 11:30 AM
  18. Mars2003's Avatar
    I've often found that the "Country Variant" of the OS gets no special treatment and in fact comes out after the carrier specific ones over here in the UK. One wonders if they hold it back to see if the carrier specific versions are performing as per expectations. The CV version has to work for every carrier, so there's a degree of logic in waiting.
    a5cent likes this.
    11-02-2015 03:52 AM
  19. a5cent's Avatar
    ^ Yup

    CVs are never updated first, but in contrast to carrier devices, they always get updated eventually.
    11-02-2015 11:41 AM
  20. heickelrrx's Avatar
    ^ Yup

    CVs are never updated first, but in contrast to carrier devices, they always get updated eventually.
    But but but. Some country only has CV version of the devices.
    CV version guaranteed to get update from OEM as long as the OEM still provide the support
    11-02-2015 12:45 PM
  21. a5cent's Avatar
    But but but. Some country only has CV version of the devices.
    CV version guaranteed to get update from OEM as long as the OEM still provide the support
    Well, true, but that doesn't really change anything. If there is only a country variant available, then your device might be the first in your country to receive W10M, but one or more carrier branded devices in other countries will still get the update before you do.
    11-02-2015 01:43 PM
  22. prasanna moholkar's Avatar
    Hey guys
    Read news
    Looks like November 12th is going to be a huge day for Microsoft as they plan to release public updates of Windows 10 Mobile, Windows 10 PC Threshold 2 and the big Xbox One Update on the same day. Named as Fall Refresh, the same build will hit both Windows 10 PC and Windows Mobile and the selected candidate is 10586.

    I have been using both the builds, and its actually very stable, specially on the Mobile part. The resume bug has bee finally crushed off, though its ghost can be seen from time to time.

    Data Usage Settings in Windows 10 Mobile

    So the next obvious question is when Windows 10 Mobile will be rolled out to all the devices? Thats going to be a very tricky question, specially in countries where carriers play a very important role as they waste a lot of time testing. The only information in hand right now is that recent generation of Lumia devices like Lumia 540, 434, 640, 640 XL etc should get the Windows 10 Mobile Update at the earliest.

    Microsoft is also planning to roll out an update for Windows Insiders which should be 10586 and will give us a preview of whats coming next before November 12th release. Now the only thing that needs to be waited is an official announcement from Microsoft.
    11-04-2015 03:48 AM
  23. Pete's Avatar
    We don't know when Windows 10 Mobile will be rolled out to customers. Carriers are still involved in testing and setting their customisations, so this adds more delay and uncertainty.

    People are free to continue using the Insider Program to make sure they're up to date.

    Please refer to http://forums.windowscentral.com/win...-new-post.html

    for more information.
    xandros9 and RumoredNow like this.
    11-04-2015 03:55 AM
  24. Div D's Avatar
    Do I receive win10 on my Nokia lumia 520

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    11-05-2015 04:40 AM
  25. a5cent's Avatar
    Do I receive win10 on my Nokia lumia 520
    Look at post #2.
    11-05-2015 10:47 AM
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