1. Amro Shalaby's Avatar
    first step
    Microsoft have to change lumia 950 XL design (remove the bezels) & cancel the 950 (or change 950 design too by remove the bezels and copy xl back) then make the price of 950 XL lower than any flagship in markets

    second step
    in the next event that it must be as near as possible beside announce the new device ,Microsoft should also announce that the next update of W10M will contain all the missed features(i collect some here) and give us a list ,demo and its exact release date

    third step
    Microsoft should not represent 950 XL as the first flagship device but the final lumia device and the next flagship to be surface mobile that released with W10.5M
    Last edited by Amro Shalaby; 09-12-2015 at 05:48 PM.
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    09-10-2015 07:41 PM
  2. Nabkawe5's Avatar
    I totally agree with the pricing point, in fact I wrote a whole article about it, I would say the rest of the suggestions are good but it would mean more than 12 other months in redesign :)
    09-10-2015 10:27 PM
  3. Rasetech's Avatar
    So you are advising to stop the Lumia brand, the only relevant brand in the Windows Phone world? Awesome, maybe you have another good receipt like this? Maybe for world peace?
    09-11-2015 12:17 AM
  4. Tien-Lin Chang's Avatar
    I think MSFT should

    1)Rethink their price strategy - having a good platform and some nice camera feature should be an attract point to the potential customer rather than a charging point. Make some down-to-earth product instead of using dated hardware and specs for entry product nor waste your brand-value just to overprice some product.(Yes I mean the "pureview" tag on 830, how you can waste this logo on a 1/3.4" sensor and 10mp device? There's no room for supersampling and the small sensor is just backwards against the trend, only OIS is there and software enhancement to the image) You have to let people have your phone on their hand before they can feel how good it can be, setting your price almost twice compare to simiar comfiguration droid phones is not sexy nor attrcting to buying it as spare phone.

    2)A really speedup pace for OS evolution - people are saying nokia phones are being well-taken cared of, receiving updates after three-years. But the pace of this platform evolves is just about half the pace comparing to the others, so there's actually not much to be proud of. However, the cost to maintain the RD team is there and I feel this is the reason MSFT have their pricing strategy. By normalize the pace of development they can set a proper profit margin for each product to feed their RD team for a reasonable time period, result in a sweeter product price and faster OS evolution pace then the whole business model will become healthier.
    Last edited by jmshub; 09-11-2015 at 03:11 PM.
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    09-11-2015 03:17 AM
  5. Paolo Ferrazza's Avatar
    I like all these wannabe market analysts :D
    09-11-2015 04:26 AM
  6. Paolo Ferrazza's Avatar
    I totally agree with the pricing point, in fact I wrote a whole article about it, I would say the rest of the suggestions are good but it would mean more than 12 other months in redesign :)
    Link to this article please?
    09-11-2015 04:27 AM
  7. Amro Shalaby's Avatar
    So you are advising to stop the Lumia brand, the only relevant brand in the Windows Phone world? Awesome, maybe you have another good receipt like this? Maybe for world peace?
    no i mean to cancel 950 device only and release enhanced design for xl
    09-11-2015 06:47 AM
  8. Jason De Castro's Avatar
    This OP needs glasses. The bezels are smaller on the leaked 950 renders than the Lumia 930 which I'm currently using to type this. Seriously it's getting annoying now.
    09-11-2015 07:23 AM
  9. trivishal's Avatar
    no i mean to cancel 950 device only and release enhanced design for xl
    No, Microsoft should release Lumia 950 with revamped Lumia 925 design and all features, and release Lumia 950XL with Snapdragon 820 in early 2016. No Snapdragon 810 device, but that's my view because this chip is not stellarly good, and most of the people just want regular phones, not XL versions.
    09-11-2015 07:27 AM
  10. Amro Shalaby's Avatar
    I totally agree with the pricing point, in fact I wrote a whole article about it, I would say the rest of the suggestions are good but it would mean more than 12 other months in redesign :)
    why ?
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    09-11-2015 07:46 AM
  11. Nabkawe5's Avatar
    Link to this article please?
    http://forums.windowscentral.com/gen...-new-post.html
    Paolo Ferrazza likes this.
    09-11-2015 08:27 AM
  12. theefman's Avatar
    Pro tip: Microsoft will do NONE of this (most of which is delusional wishful thinking anyway). Carry on. :)
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    09-11-2015 08:43 AM
  13. gwinegarden's Avatar
    no i mean to cancel 950 device only and release enhanced design for xl
    Do you have the slightest concept of how long it would take to, suddenly, redesign a phone?
    09-11-2015 09:10 AM
  14. gwinegarden's Avatar
    why ?
    It takes Apple a year to make small modifications of their current phones and they are supposed to the kings of this stuff.

    People like you remind me of an old boss, I had. He used to say "if I can think of it, you can do it". Sorry, but no.
    09-11-2015 09:14 AM
  15. Paolo Ferrazza's Avatar
    Ah ok, a forum post.

    Anyway good effort!
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    09-11-2015 10:17 AM
  16. jmshub's Avatar
    Step one relates directly to the design of the 950 and 950 XL, which I must point out, are still rumors and leaks. Few have seen the upcoming devices in person, and as pointed out in this post From the Editor's Desk: Is the Windows Phone community imploding? | Windows Central , the phones may very well present much better in person than pictures. Besides, Microsoft desperately needs to get a flagship phone in the market as soon as possible. Pulling the 950 to redesign it would delay for many months at this point.

    Step two is basically saying that Microsoft should prioritize software functions that you personally want to see added to W10m. Respectfully, looking at your post, most of your requests are vague (more personalization), unnecessary (a menu to power off or restart phone...there is a hardware button that already does that), or your personal preference (return the old People tile).

    Step three is just further complaining about the look of handsets. Surface phones have been a pipe dream since WP8.0, when Microsoft and Nokia were still separate companies. There are two possibilities here, one is the discussion that what if the Surface is the x86 powered smartphone? That would be interesting, but especially for the non-Continuum devices, there is little benefit to not using ARM chipsets, so getting rid of the Lumia line would be folly.

    The other possibility is that Surface would just adopt the Surface design language, as opposed to the polycarbonate bodied Lumia handsets we've been used to. The Surface tablets do look nice, but their design isn't so good that people are rushing out and lining up to buy Surfaces instead of Android or Apple tablets. Plus, the metal body would cut from the thin profits on lower end phones.
    09-11-2015 03:43 PM
  17. ArtificiallyYours's Avatar
    I like that the standard 950 render reminds me of the Zune HD, just with added details. I loved the Zune HD too. Don't judge me.

    Other than that putting so much weight on the renders which don't imply any real dimensions whatsoever is a fools gambit.
    09-11-2015 03:57 PM
  18. Amro Shalaby's Avatar
    Step two is basically saying that Microsoft should prioritize software functions that you personally want to see added to W10m. Respectfully, looking at your post, most of your requests are vague (more personalization), unnecessary (a menu to power off or restart phone...there is a hardware button that already does that), or your personal preference (return the old People tile).
    not all this missed features is a must ,the other post is for collecting all missed feature regardless its importance
    09-11-2015 04:19 PM
  19. tangledW's Avatar
    Oh my god! You solved it!

    Go home, your drunk.
    09-11-2015 04:44 PM
  20. Keith Wallace's Avatar
    first step
    Microsoft have to change lumia 950 XL design (remove the bezels) & cancel the 950 (or change its design too by remove the bezels and copy xl back) then make the price of 950 XL lower than any flagship in markets

    second step
    in the next event that it must be as near as possible beside announce the new device ,Microsoft should also announce that the next update of W10M will contain all the missed features(i collect some here) and give us a list ,demo and its exact release date

    third step
    Microsoft should not represent 950 XL as the first flagship device but the final lumia device and the next flagship to be surface mobile that released with W10.5M
    These "suggestions" are insane. This was already brought up in this week's "Ask Dan," you can't just change a phone's design last-minute. If they listened to you, they'd have to toss out probably hundreds of thousands of dollars of already-made phones, design new phones, delay W10M by several months (maybe a full year), and THEN you want them to make the phones super-cheap, making that design scrapping a move towards not turning a profit on the replacement? That's not how you run a business.

    The second thing just reeks of ignorance. You can't just "make more software." It requires loads of planning, programming, testing, and repeating that process until problems are minimized in quantity and severity. You're really just missing the concept of designing an OS. They can't just press a button and have the OS support multiple applications at once.

    Nope, that's insane. So they buy Nokia for billions of dollars, take on their branding, name recognition, and all of that, then throw it out the window in 2 years? Also, the next MAJOR iteration of W10 is probably a Fall 2016 offering, and the mobile stuff clearly lags behind. So, you might be talking not releasing another device until 2017. Oh, and you're saying to just ignore the emerging markets Microsoft's at least had SOME success in?

    The content of this is nothing related to the titled. These are self-serving complaints that just ignore basic logic for "I WANT IT." If Microsoft did what you suggested, they'd throw away billions of dollars, delay their OS, restart their hardware production cycle, anger the small number of Windows Phone people still interested in the next generation of devices, and spurn the customer base that keeps them SOMEWHAT afloat. Your title should be, "To Microsoft: The Death of Windows Phones."
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    09-11-2015 06:32 PM
  21. slivy58's Avatar
    No, stop running in circles like a dog chasing its tail and start moving "forward" :-)
    09-11-2015 07:58 PM
  22. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    The solution is too MARKET your phones.
    09-12-2015 10:04 AM
  23. tgp's Avatar
    The solution is too MARKET your phones.
    You've got to have an actual something to market. Microsoft so far mostly has promises and "coming soon."

    Sent from whatever device I happen to be using today using Tapatalk
    09-12-2015 10:38 AM
  24. trivishal's Avatar
    Coming Soon and with underwhelmed design, and Old processors Trademarks of Microsoft Lumia.
    Sarcasm, Npi.
    Last edited by trivishal; 09-13-2015 at 04:25 AM.
    09-13-2015 02:08 AM
  25. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    You've got to have an actual something to market. Microsoft so far mostly has promises and "coming soon."

    Sent from whatever device I happen to be using today using Tapatalk
    Lol well considering the software is still in work, that's not surprising they haven't marketed it or the upcoming Lumia.

    Still you have the 640, 640 XL that have gotten minimal advertising that you can in fact show marketing for seeing as they are presently the only two relevant windows phones at the moment.
    libra89 likes this.
    09-13-2015 07:29 AM

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