10-09-2015 12:35 AM
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  1. Tien-Lin Chang's Avatar
    My ATIV S just got the leak version of 10536 TP for less than a week. Beside the hamberger manu, more upper layout buttoms and some more resume/reload waiting time, it does feel like a more mature (non cartoon-ish) WP8.1 with nicer font. I'm not sure what are the new features I should feel excited about. I have a windows 10 tablet and I do love how UWP apps running at desktop mode instead of jumping between desktop/metro UI at WP 8.1 days but the mobile version?

    There are few features I always hearing WP fans are talking about :

    The UWP apps - You got what you can get from store and you won't get what you can't. They runs and feels no different compare to WP8.1 apps and I haven't feel any quality/quantity change. It might be great for programmers but not a noticeable change from the view as an end user now. I really don't think those heavy, big softwares can be proceeded on mobile device even they have been re-programmed to UWP apps.....

    The ability to port or sideload iOS/Android apps - provide way bigger amount of apps to choose from. However, I'm expecting iOS/Android level of app UX AT BEST, not to mention the underpower issue at EVERY WP8/8.1 gen devices besides 930(icon)/1520. I won't recon this a game changer in the mobile battle against the other two.

    Continuum - this one is very tricky. We have chrome that can sync tabs across logged-in devices already. With the ability to work with cloud, it's also easy to contiune work between mobile/PC. So what's the need and ability to carry 100% your current work between mobile/PC devices? As a PhD student, I often open mutiple pdfs, few IE tabs, one or two word/excel files at same time and It's hard for me to image how can this working form being carried to a phone and contiune to work?

    united UX - another tricky point. I accept the way bikes have handle bars and cars have steering wheels and I really don't think that my TV 's remote should using the same UI as my aircon's remote control. I also couldn't get that people want all their screens being formated into similar patterns while saying that every iPhone looks the same and its boring....

    So I'm really curious about what new feature that windows 10 mobile will introduce recon as "the killer feature" from the others cos I'm a bit confused looking at my ATIV S running this windows 10 mobile TP. It dose looks prettier yet I can't feel the fundamental change that can bring the UX into the next level and start to winning against the other two platfroms....Many thanks to any thoughts feeding back.
    09-19-2015 01:52 PM
  2. mariusmuntean's Avatar
    maybe continuum, as it seems...but nothing else could be considered a "killer" feature. it used to have sometime ago many more..


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    09-19-2015 02:31 PM
  3. Kevin Houle1's Avatar
    How did you get w10m on your ativ s? I use the insider program, but it says there's no builds for my phone.
    tapatalk - nokia 1020
    09-19-2015 07:56 PM
  4. scandiskwindows9x's Avatar
    i consider that is not killer features but the own OS grew up and having more options by itself is a killer feature
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    09-19-2015 10:22 PM
  5. Manmikey's Avatar
    Sadly I don't think any features will be killer enough to persuade ios or android users to defect to WM10, what is, in my opinion, the best hope is that WM10 and the new 950's stabilise the platform enough to grow in the market place, this is going to take time , the 2 features I thing will be citical for this are cContinuim and the project astoria/islandwood initiatives. Neither of these will have a real impact at launch or indeed for many months after, but in a year's time, hopefully the app gap is getting plugged and continuim has taken off, then people on other platforms maybe tempted to switch as their contracts end....

    As for me I'm really hoping windows hello works as intended, Qi charging is reliable although I'd prefer qualcomm quick carge. battery life must is as good as my 640 ( best battery performance ever )
    More than anything I don't want loading...... or Resuming....
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    09-20-2015 07:26 AM
  6. Tsang Fai's Avatar
    Continuum is a nice feature for some people only. It is not a killer feature. Most people can afford an extra low-end PC for use at home.

    The fate of Win10 Mobile depends much on Win 10 for PC. If Win 10 for PC can attract sufficient developers to write apps, hopefully their apps will also support Win10 Mobile.

    In terms of functionalities, I think iOS/Android/WP are more or less the same. What really matter is, again, apps. But I think Win10 Mobile looks cool and gives people a refreshing image of Windows Phone.
    09-20-2015 08:12 AM
  7. realwarder's Avatar
    I don't think there is a single Killer feature that will bring iOS and Android users running to the platform. That said, one big change that you didn't mention is moving a lot of core apps into updatable apps. We only have to look at mail which was built in and so never changed to the new mail which gets weekly updates. A lot of the system is like this and can be enhanced, improving Windows desktop and mobile experience.

    The whole concept of Windows as a Service, where regular updates push things forward more rapidly than other OS's may help the platform feature set grow. This is attractive to some as often Android phones are never updated and become aged or stuck with issues.

    The Android compatibility to me brings the biggest potential, if Android developers release their apps. [I suspect an underground app market will exist if they don't]. Android is getting a reputation for poor security but Windows phone has a high regard for security. If the apps come, so will the users and now the effort to brings apps is so low it will be interesting to see if they come.
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    09-20-2015 08:52 PM
  8. someone2639's Avatar
    Print from the same printers our PC is compatible with. Boom. IOS defeated.
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    09-20-2015 09:04 PM
  9. Ivan05il's Avatar
    I think it would be great if one could run Win32 apps on a phablet with Intel processor. It's supposed to be the same OS underneath after all. That's an USP they could offer that nobody else can.
    09-21-2015 02:03 AM
  10. Tien-Lin Chang's Avatar
    Print from the same printers our PC is compatible with. Boom. IOS defeated.
    There are actually apps for iOS devices to print wirelessly by wifi-printing/air print.
    09-21-2015 04:33 AM
  11. Jezza's Avatar
    I'm waiting for the day when OTG/USB dual role is confirmed on a device and the Xbox app allows game streaming from an Xbox One and use of an Xbox controller, that would be a killer feature in some respects, but not something for everybody.
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    09-21-2015 04:46 AM
  12. fspjorge's Avatar
    Apps...
    09-21-2015 04:53 AM
  13. CapoFantasma97's Avatar
    Having ported on your mobile the same OS as your PC may count as a killer feature?
    09-21-2015 05:11 AM
  14. someone2639's Avatar
    There are actually apps for iOS devices to print wirelessly by wifi-printing/air print.
    Yeah but who would buy an app when the feature is BUILT IN?! (guitar riff)
    09-21-2015 06:05 AM
  15. Ivan05il's Avatar
    Having ported on your mobile the same OS as your PC may count as a killer feature?
    That's rather a useless achievement if there's not more to it.
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    09-21-2015 06:45 AM
  16. Tien-Lin Chang's Avatar
    Yeah but who would buy an app when the feature is BUILT IN?! (guitar riff)
    They are free~(Human beatbox)

    You do know that a very important feature of smartphone is the capability to expend abilities by installing apps right?

    And there are many people installing 3rd party photo/camera apps while their phones have BUILT IN camera app(Drum solo, 350bpm)

    The superior of built in should be some feature you couldn't patch by software like notification LED.
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    09-21-2015 06:47 AM
  17. seb_r's Avatar
    I not see any killer features in W10M. It even lacks some features (yet) compared to 8.1.
    Sorry for those who still believe in miracles that will never happen and dream of fighting Android and iOS.
    09-21-2015 08:06 AM
  18. Amit Mishra3's Avatar
    Continuous vibration!
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    09-21-2015 08:09 AM
  19. Krystianpants's Avatar
    The start screen is the killer feature. Way better in windows 10 than in windows 8.1. More refined, more options. It can really be made to look nice and arranged to work best with your workflow. That is the only thing that keeps me on windows phone. Honestly, if I had to choose I would go to iOS if it wasn't for the start screen. Apps are no doubt lacking but the universal platform and the addition of all the development tools it's possible the app world may expand quite a lot. Either way when I was testing loading android apps onto my windows phone, I looked and looked for android apps I would want on it and couldn't find any. I only tested Flipp. And then i removed it as I don't trust sites that give out free android apps. It is after all the king of malware. So for me apps aren't an issue at the moment and it seems that the app list is growing since the release of windows 10 for desktop. I think the developer tools will however help with the app problem. If it is honestly as easy as Microsoft says, then putting the additional resources to get it to work may actually pay off in revenue due to small investment needed.
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    09-21-2015 12:44 PM
  20. CapoFantasma97's Avatar
    That's rather a useless achievement if there's not more to it.

    It is. Continuum, universal apps, are 2 examples of this.
    09-22-2015 05:27 AM
  21. Ivan05il's Avatar
    How about multiple start screens to choose from, would that be interesting? They manage multiple desktops on PC, so this should not be that difficult.
    09-22-2015 08:11 AM
  22. Peter Rundqvist's Avatar
    For many enterprises, Windows is the platform of choice. Having the possibility to enroll the phones used in the organisation and make them manageable as just another Windows device, will be a killer feature. Here, Microsoft will have a real advantage over its competitors. Imagine being able to roll out apps to any kind of device in your organisation, regardless of its physical appearance. Also, enterprise authentication features will be a breeze to handle using your WP. I think MS should stress these possibilities much more. Today, much of the debate is about app gap and home user experience. There's another dimension to WP that needs to be communicated.
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    09-22-2015 10:33 AM
  23. mariusmuntean's Avatar
    Yeah but who would buy an app when the feature is BUILT IN?! (guitar riff)
    anyone who will find that the app works better as in most cases it does if we talk about Microsoft. anything works better on the other platforms in respect of their own products...and to be honest :))) printing is not a wow factor to make someone switch to WP :))) go tell this to an android user or iphone user, he or she will laugh in your face.
    seb_r likes this.
    09-23-2015 02:53 AM
  24. Ivan05il's Avatar
    Streaming videos and photos from your phone to a TV or at least a computer to bore your family to death with them would be nice.
    09-23-2015 04:12 AM
  25. Tien-Lin Chang's Avatar
    Streaming videos and photos from your phone to a TV or at least a computer to bore your family to death with them would be nice.
    A 30USD android TV stick can serve that with any device support airplay/miracast to any screen with HDMI input. Not a wow factor at all
    09-25-2015 11:24 AM
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