1. mflotron's Avatar
    09-27-2015 07:03 PM
  2. realwarder's Avatar
    Those XDA guys are having so much fun with Astoria.

    Remember, WM10 does run Android in it to run the Android apps... Still running WM10 as the primary OS though.

    Personally I think the ability to run Android apps will help the platform - on the desktop we get to play with multiple OS's, why not on our phones?
    09-27-2015 07:10 PM
  3. Nicholas Maguire's Avatar
    I believed it at first, since I don't know why WMPoweruser would flat out lie about something like that, but they've provided no info on how they did it, not even a hint. They said the tools were hidden deep within Redmond, in which case, how did they get it on their phones? Also.. the video is really short. If they broke news like this, why would they make only a 14 second video about it, where half the video is their logo? Also, nobody else is reporting on this, and there's nothing on XDA-Developers about it.

    If anyone can prove it's real, please provide more information, because WMPU sure didn't.
    gpobernardo likes this.
    09-27-2015 07:12 PM
  4. realwarder's Avatar
    I believed it at first, since I don't know why WMPoweruser would flat out lie about something like that, but they've provided no info on how they did it, not even a hint. They said the tools were hidden deep within Redmond, in which case, how did they get it on their phones? Also.. the video is really short. If they broke news like this, why would they make only a 14 second video about it, where half the video is their logo? Also, nobody else is reporting on this, and there's nothing on XDA-Developers about it.

    If anyone can prove it's real, please provide more information, because WMPU sure didn't.
    That is true. I just checked out WMPU and there is no source.

    Could just be a launcher app running in Astoria. Would look the same. Or could be completely faked.

    Guess that's why I read news here first ;)
    gpobernardo likes this.
    09-27-2015 07:25 PM
  5. Nicholas Maguire's Avatar
    That is true. I just checked out WMPU and there is no source.

    Could just be a launcher app running in Astoria. Would look the same. Or could be completely faked.

    Guess that's why I read news here first ;)
    This really bothers me. It can't have just been some rumor they saw, because the authors were teasing about it all day on Twitter posting pictures and they did that 9-10 second footage, so this makes me want to believe it was real. But the fact that they provided no information about it, and the video was so short makes me think its fake. But who knows, maybe they were busy and they'll post more on it tomorrow.
    gpobernardo likes this.
    09-27-2015 07:47 PM
  6. Nicholas Maguire's Avatar
    Okay, the video was not made by WMPU themselves. It's also from their "source" (which they never said in the article). So giving that the video is so short and the authors themselves seem to know nothing about it, I'm going to assume that this was fake.
    gpobernardo and xandros9 like this.
    09-28-2015 10:58 AM
  7. Krystianpants's Avatar
    What is weird is that whenever I unlock my lumia the buttons at the bottom light up. So if windows is still running even if android is loaded with it the lights should light up. And apparently the bug was squashed. There was no updates to squash the bug. So not sure how it was done. Maybe the developer tools. But it seems like Windows will be extremely customizable and lead to lots of cool stuff once it launches. People will find ways. And lumia is not very powerful so how they got it to run so fluid is beyond me. My android does not run that well on a more powerful phone. It could even just be a video file that is playing and the person just times his finger movement to work with it. Who knows.
    09-28-2015 02:58 PM
  8. TechFreak1's Avatar
    Well I'm going to say fake, nothing of the phone is really shown other than a text field. First and foremost, the logo is really blurry and capacitive buttons.

    Sure, you could probably get a replacement screen with a blurry logo but to get one with no capacitive cut outs / logos?
    Highly unlikely, it's not feasible for part makers to make such parts as the Lumia 830 doesn't support on-screen buttons.

    There is a possibility that this is a transplanted screen but given the video is incredibly short and the back or the sides of the phone is not shown ...It wouldn't be too difficult to 3d print a case to look similar to the 830 and wrap it around a android phone.

    Secondly none of the physical buttons are pressed so they are either fake or not mapped, I seriously doubt it's the latter as anyone with an ounce of common sense would at least map the power button / lock button. You can turn on certain phones on by plugging it into a charger as they automatically boot when sufficiently charged (for the average laymen that's what pretty much all windows phone do thus it is more than likely that there are android phones that do the same).
    gpobernardo likes this.
    09-28-2015 03:01 PM
  9. Nicholas Maguire's Avatar
    Well I'm going to say fake, nothing of the phone is really shown other than a text field. First and foremost, the logo is really blurry and capacitive buttons.

    Sure, you could probably get a replacement screen with a blurry logo but to get one with no capacitive cut outs / logos?
    Highly unlikely, it's not feasible for part makers to make such parts as the Lumia 830 doesn't support on-screen buttons.

    There is a possibility that this is a transplanted screen but given the video is incredibly short and the back or the sides of the phone is not shown ...It wouldn't be too difficult to 3d print a case to look similar to the 830 and wrap it around a android phone.

    Secondly none of the physical buttons are pressed so they are either fake or not mapped, I seriously doubt it's the latter as anyone with an ounce of common sense would at least map the power button / lock button. You can turn on certain phones on by plugging it into a charger as they automatically boot when sufficiently charged (for the average laymen that's what pretty much all windows phone do thus it is more than likely that there are android phones that do the same).
    Well, I was just assuming that if it's fake they were just playing a video within a Lumia 830 and moved their fingers accordingly.
    colinkiama and gpobernardo like this.
    09-28-2015 04:51 PM
  10. TechFreak1's Avatar
    Well, I was just assuming that if it's fake they were just playing a video within a Lumia 830 and moved their fingers accordingly.
    No, no, such a low grade technological faade won't do!

    Re-reading my post it looks like I have really over analysed this lol... I think I'm going to go and play some dead rising just to aimlessly wonder .
    gpobernardo likes this.
    09-28-2015 05:00 PM
  11. Slovenix's Avatar
    It's legit, Microsoft already fixed this bug, there's a possibility this was done at Microsoft in the first place. Anyway around. It's very interesting.
    09-28-2015 05:21 PM
  12. MysticForce's Avatar
    FunDroid app.
    TechAbstract likes this.
    09-29-2015 06:20 AM
  13. realwarder's Avatar
    It's legit, Microsoft already fixed this bug, there's a possibility this was done at Microsoft in the first place. Anyway around. It's very interesting.
    Source other than WMPU?
    gpobernardo likes this.
    09-29-2015 09:00 AM
  14. Slovenix's Avatar
    Let's say it was from reading between the lines.
    09-29-2015 12:16 PM
  15. neodk's Avatar
    What could we possibly do now to drive more people to our Lumia handsets?

    Let them install and run Android on it.....

    "higher ups walk in"

    So gentlemen, I hear we have a great new marketing scheme to increase Lumia hardware sales. Tell us about it!"

    We're going to put Android on them!

    "HR is summoned"

    At this time we are going to wish you the best in your future endeavors.

    I don't want to run Android on any device that doesn't have more than 2GB of RAM on it. That rules out a number of Lumia devices. Now if the device was built from the ground up with the intention of running current day Android and Windows 10 for Mobile, that could be interesting but only serve to attract and sustain a niche crowd of users who primarily are developers if I had to take a guess.

    Both Microsoft and Apple have presented a marriage of hardware and software that doesn't require 4GB of RAM, 8-core processors and the like to run their OS. Android still has a ways to go before they provide an experience on low end hardware that doesn't take away from the fact you aren't on a flagship.
    09-29-2015 01:53 PM
  16. TechAbstract's Avatar
    FunDroid app.
    Thanks for pointing that out.
    http://forums.windowscentral.com/e?l...token=xMmZjzTv
    09-29-2015 01:57 PM
  17. rhapdog's Avatar
    I'd rather run MS DOS on my Lumia than Android.

    As a matter of fact, that is something I DID do.
    09-29-2015 02:18 PM
  18. Scabrat's Avatar
    I don't want to run Android on any device that doesn't have more than 2GB of RAM on it. That rules out a number of Lumia devices. Now if the device was built from the ground up with the intention of running current day Android and Windows 10 for Mobile, that could be interesting but only serve to attract and sustain a niche crowd of users who primarily are developers if I had to take a guess.

    Both Microsoft and Apple have presented a marriage of hardware and software that doesn't require 4GB of RAM, 8-core processors and the like to run their OS. Android still has a ways to go before they provide an experience on low end hardware that doesn't take away from the fact you aren't on a flagship.
    Actually, I heard that Android runs as a subsystem on top of the NT Kernel so it benefits from the NT Kernel. Meaning its more secure, more powerful, and runs more efficiently. That also means that apps might actually respond better on WP than on Android. There is a video that shows it a little bit somewhere. The "Ask Dans" showed it off. But it seems to be native Android on WP. But still a Windows 10 Mobile phone. In the end anyways.
    Slovenix likes this.
    09-29-2015 03:09 PM
  19. Nicholas Maguire's Avatar
    FunDroid app.
    That's not it. You can tell that's not the same UI that's in this video.
    09-29-2015 04:22 PM

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