11-11-2015 06:32 PM
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  1. celticmagick's Avatar
    I agree. I submitted this in the feedback app, especially regarding the media apps. A consistent UI is important for efficiency and making an OS feel solid, professional, and not just thrown together by thousands of different people who have never met.
    a5cent likes this.
    10-15-2015 04:55 PM
  2. Ma Rio's Avatar
    For some weird reason, this doesn't bother me that much. I didn't even notice it untill you mentioned it. I don't even know if I'd feel better if they fixed the inconsistencies. While I would like to see some bad implementations (like the hamburger and the cogwheel) gone, I don't mind a little difference between apps.
    10-17-2015 07:13 PM
  3. bhtkb's Avatar
    I think, clearing out those inconsistencies is not very difficult because most of them are minor differences that can be unified when the final decision is done on the look. However, remaking an overall design and UX would need plenty of work. Therefore, I'm not concerned about those inconsistencies, they will be fixed definitely; but the overall new design which doesnt appeal to me at all will not change. That's the thing bothering me.
    10-18-2015 04:16 PM
  4. Salmanman's Avatar
    This issue reminds me of some suggestion that was made months ago on The Verge. It enlisted a number of ideas, but the most important one was the use of both the hamburger button and pivot as means of navigation.

    The more I've been interacting with both W10 for desktop and Mobile, the more I'm convinced this is the way to go. I've been following closely the Windows Design Team decisions: their conferences, official and non official statements, and suggestions from fans, and I conclude that their way of dividing navigation and actions is great, but they need to commit to one way of navigation.

    The Windows apps almost seem like a demo of all the ways of interacting with an app, which I guess is fine to inspire developers, but it's horrible in terms of intuition and learning the OS. From all the options, hamburger + pivot is the best because the pivot keeps making W10 look like it's own thing, and the hamburger fixes the all or most of the cons inherent to the pivot.

    And about the icons, I think they should stick to the Metro principle of using only typography unless it's absolutely necessary to use icons. And, though I don't love the wireframe, or monoline, or whatever icons, I think they're OK; but again, I would like them to stick to that type of icons instead of using those weird geometrical icons for the tiles.
    10-18-2015 07:54 PM
  5. Paolo Ferrazza's Avatar
    I'd also suggest adding examples of these:

    Some apps have only an ellipsis menu (Edge)
    Some apps have only a hamburger
    Some apps have both

    Depending on which app you're looking at, the settings entry could be in either of those menues, and sometimes in none (in which case it's likely represented as a cogwheel icon, either at the top or bottom of screen, which also isn't consistent). The entry for settings is just an example. The same inconsistencies exist for almost any common menu entry.

    Seriously, decide what is best placed where...
    Hamburger for navigation, ellipsis for actions. This is how I understood it, and how it actually would make sense. Then again they look pretty confused about it too :)
    WesleyBPeres likes this.
    10-19-2015 04:51 AM
  6. Leonel Funes's Avatar
    This post is not intended for insiders who I'm sure are well aware of the UI inconsistencies and may or may not be not bothered. This post is intended for Microsoft who may be lurking in the forums. Perhaps if they have any pride in their work seeing the inconsistencies laid bare will trigger some changes.. but probably not.

    Context Menus

    Context menu type 1

    Attachment 113363

    Context menu type 2 (outlook/calendar: icons, different background colour)

    Attachment 113364

    Context menu type 3 (onedrive: transparent, different foreground colour)

    Attachment 113366

    Tab Headers

    Type 1 (dialler)

    Attachment 113367

    Type 2 (alarms: Similar to dialler but thinner strip)

    Attachment 113368

    Type 3 (people)

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    Type 4 (photos: similar to people but has background strip and different sizing and positioning)

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    Alpha Grid

    Type 1 (apps list)

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    Type 2 (people)

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    White keyboard, search field and settings in dark theme outlook

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    2 more words - BE PATIENT
    10-19-2015 12:58 PM
  7. SonOfDad's Avatar
    Really tiresome people trotting that out, if this thing is due for launch in a month they should have onscreen app functions locked down. The same garbage was provided with the inconsistencies on desktop.

    2 more words - BE PATIENT
    Another two words - FIVE YEARS
    10-25-2015 04:47 AM
  8. GrandGerminator's Avatar
    Hey ! Are these problems solved while the RTM is coming very soon ?
    11-10-2015 05:37 AM
  9. Peter McNeill1's Avatar
    MS is more business orientated than consumer which is why you'll always see things like all CAPS in headers and such in the menus and UI elements. Or to put it different, you've just written your resume in proper business format but wait, it looks to much like WP10, so you rewrite it with only the first letter of words capitalized in headers. There, now that looks much cooler! I guarantee Human Resources will take one look and toss it in the garbage. Right now that is where MS is still coming from since they do want the business sector to use their phones (somehow, heh).
    11-10-2015 09:39 AM
  10. elindalyne's Avatar
    In regards to Pivots vs Hamburgers vs Ellipses

    Pivots are only OK if you can always see the entirety of the heading of what you're around in. This generally means you can only have 2-4 pivots on a page. The second a user does not know where they're pivoting to, they get confused.

    Hamburgers denote navigation. This has become pretty standard in web and app development. The only issue with them is they can potentially lead to lower user interaction.

    Ellipses denote "More". If you've got a list of something, this is just saying that there are more options available.

    All of these are pretty much industry standards these days.
    WesleyBPeres likes this.
    11-10-2015 10:08 AM
  11. SonOfDad's Avatar
    Not only is the UI inconsistent they can't even apply the users selected accent colour correctly!

    11-11-2015 12:17 AM
  12. Kram Sacul's Avatar
    Not only is the UI inconsistent they can't even apply the users selected accent colour correctly!

    It's always amusing that even though they added more accent colors in W10M the overall color pallet is weak. Mostly dull grays and browns. Is this a funeral? Where are the vibrant colors like yellow, crimson, lime, indigo and the awesome cobalt blue that was in 8.0?
    11-11-2015 04:08 PM
  13. SonOfDad's Avatar
    I see absolutely no reason why you can't select from a full colour pallet hell if you can make text in word any colour you want why not your OS?
    11-11-2015 06:10 PM
  14. 920Walker's Avatar
    I see absolutely no reason why you can't select from a full colour pallet hell if you can make text in word any colour you want why not your OS?
    Agreed, even though some color combos may make text indistinguishable, let users create the look of a late 90's webpage if they wish.

    Depending on the background used and amount of transparency applied an infinite amount of colors can be created on the start screen but nowhere else, unfortunately.
    11-11-2015 06:32 PM
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