11-17-2015 02:22 AM
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  1. Addison's Avatar
    So, nobody really talks about it here, but it's more than possible to run android apps on windows 10 mobile. I tried it myself- facebook messenger, facebook, instagram, all the android versions -so much more polished and well designed than what we have to pick from on our windows phones- basically, for the most part, work.

    Obviously it's illegal or something so windowscentral hasn't written any articles about it. And, sometimes it's buggy (like when the app looks for a picture in your phone, or has to use your camera,) and notifications don't work. Whatever.

    What I'm asking is, is now that I've seen something like this happen, in the very near future with the release of windows 10 phones coming out, will we start seeing legitimate, legal, and working android apps coming to our phones?

    I'll admit, after switching to a droid for a month, the apps are so well done, so snappy, and so pretty, my windows phone feels rather dead and old, even if the OS itself is the most visually appealing thing available.

    I'm curious if I should invest in another windows phone because quality apps will be coming my way in the next few months, or just go with an iPhone. I've been a windows phone user since 7, but I'm getting sick of feeling left out. My generation relies on things like snapchat to keep in touch, and after having moved to south korea, things like this are all the more valuable. Not to mention subway apps that saved my life in korea and all the banking apps just aren't available on windows phone (hence i have been using a droid for the past month).
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    10-03-2015 10:28 PM
  2. DJCBS's Avatar
    In the end it will depend on developers. If a developer sees benefit in porting his Android app to Windows 10's Universal App platform, then the apps will show up.

    However, I don't expect things like Snapchat to come. Because apps like Snapchat, Instagram etc were designed with mobile-only in mind. Therefore the appeal of Universal Apps that also run on Windows PCs and the XBone is non-existent. They are mobile-apps and therefore developers will only look at the mobile scenario. Which is 2.5% marketshare.

    By the way, you can no longer sideload Android apps onto WP10. Microsoft patched that in the latest build.
    10-03-2015 10:49 PM
  3. Visa Declined's Avatar

    Obviously it's illegal or something so windowscentral hasn't written any articles about it.
    Incorrect: Microsoft's Project Astoria has leaked letting Windows 10 Mobile sideload Android APKs directly | Windows Central

    Also, this topic has been discussed quite heavily in the forums. You don't see multiple articles written about it because of the ethics involved. Many users are going to apk warez sites to obtain apps and games, and that's not something the staff of Windows Central endorses at all.
    10-03-2015 10:51 PM
  4. Addison's Avatar
    Thanks DJC. I think optimism is the only thing that's kept me going on Windows for so long. With the lack of aesthetic appeal in the latest flagships I just can't do it anymore... I'll be watching the presentation hoping to become a believer regardless.

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    aximtreo likes this.
    10-03-2015 11:40 PM
  5. Pierre Blackwell's Avatar
    I never got the whole apps are always more polished on other platforms running different OS's. I think Facebook beta is just as aesthetically functional on Windows phone as it is on iOS or Andriod. I don't even fathom the official instagram app because 6Tag is 100 times better, and even allows features that the official app on other OS's don't. That pretty much goes for any app the Rudy touches for that matter. I'm not taken back by the Office suite, because quite frankly I don't plan on doing any real work on my phone, but I have had to and have had no problems. You just can't be the integration. I do agree with that those apps that are exclusive to mobile, like Snapchat and Whatsapp, will be the exceptions. Whatsapp actually functions pretty well on Windows phone as well. Like others have mentioned here, developers will not be able to simple ignore Windows 10 mobile, with the popularity of Windows 10 desktop anymore, so I would expect to see a lot more universal apps being generated.
    10-04-2015 03:59 PM
  6. Jazmac's Avatar
    Amazing how this snap chat question never dies on Windows Central.
    10-04-2015 06:07 PM
  7. 920Walker's Avatar
    Why the need for Snapchat?

    Any worthwhile photo is meant to be saved. Any worthwhile conversation is best made in person or at least using voice. If using such an app to be sneaky, hiding from a significant other, parent or the law you are doing it wrong.

    The real thing is always better than the 1's and 0's version of anything. Put down the phone.
    gwinegarden, ML10 and Al4video like this.
    10-04-2015 07:10 PM
  8. Angry_Mushroom's Avatar
    Why the need for Snapchat?

    Any worthwhile photo is meant to be saved. Any worthwhile conversation is best made in person or at least using voice. If using such an app to be sneaky, hiding from a significant other, parent or the law you are doing it wrong.

    The real thing is always better than the 1's and 0's version of anything. Put down the phone.
    Why the need for technology at all? All worthwhile conversations should be my vocal chords vibrating air molecules. Also what do you mean by "the real thing?" The real snapchat? The real 10 second joke? The real long distance communication that doesn't really need to be saved? If I could rib a friend from 1000 miles away to point out a funny thing I'm seeing... I would. Fortunately Snapchat provides me with the digital means. Snapchat isn't an artistic platform for art snobs. It's a passing joke in the form of a picture and a blurb.
    10-04-2015 09:01 PM
  9. runamuck83's Avatar
    In short.... Slim to none.
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    10-04-2015 09:12 PM
  10. buddy007's Avatar
    By the way, you can no longer sideload Android apps onto WP10. Microsoft patched that in the latest build.
    yes you still can , MS only patched the bug that allows android to run entirely
    10-05-2015 06:11 AM
  11. Paolo Ferrazza's Avatar
    Why the need for Snapchat?

    Any worthwhile photo is meant to be saved. Any worthwhile conversation is best made in person or at least using voice. If using such an app to be sneaky, hiding from a significant other, parent or the law you are doing it wrong.

    The real thing is always better than the 1's and 0's version of anything. Put down the phone.
    Please go discuss windows10 with your friends in a pub then and not here :D . You really are hilarious.
    10-05-2015 10:09 AM
  12. DJCBS's Avatar
    yes you still can , MS only patched the bug that allows android to run entirely
    Not through APKToWin10M at least.
    10-05-2015 10:21 AM
  13. 920Walker's Avatar
    Please go discuss windows10 with your friends in a pub then and not here :D . You really are hilarious.
    Touch. But I wouldn't bore my friends talking about desk and pocket tech.

    I understand the app can be useful since users aren't left with a bloated history to manage. I was referring more to the type of users who see each other more frequently, like the satirical friends sitting within talking distance who communicate with each other by looking at and using their phones, and deviants.

    Re: real life. If you want to be a deviant be one in the open, not behind closed doors.

    Disclaimer: As someone who has never been interested in social media (Untappd is about my limit) I admit my ignorance of it's unperceived to me benefits :)
    10-05-2015 10:41 AM
  14. TechmeIN64's Avatar
    @920Walker
    It is a ridiculous argument to say that someone shouldn't "need" something that they want. Your logic could be applied to anything. Why should you have a password on your personal phone or computer? You shouldn't have anything to hide.
    Seriously, not everything needs to be saved. Snapchat is as joke, so treat it as such. Not everyone who sends a snap is a "deviant".
    Wow, you must really be fun at parties.
    MikeSo and DavidinCT like this.
    10-05-2015 01:14 PM
  15. 920Walker's Avatar
    @Techmel, you put many words in my mouth. Everyone? I say above it's useful as it doesn't bloat with history.

    I am fun at parties. I leave the phone in the car.
    Karen LePage and gwinegarden like this.
    10-05-2015 01:28 PM
  16. Robinsonmac's Avatar
    It doesn't matter if anyone here thinks SC is a relevant or good app. Bottom line is a very popular app on the 2 platforms that have 97% market share & is not on WP. Not having popular apps just gives people a reason to not choose WP even if they don'y use the app. Same go's for Google apps even though you may not like them they are widely used & is a BIG barrier to entry to the platform. Perception is reality in the consumer space. People(especially young people) don't like to feel like they are or will be left out when choosing certain items & phones are one of those items. That's just how things are. We are the minority no matter if you like or not 97% VS 3% say having the most popular apps matter.....
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    10-05-2015 01:50 PM
  17. realwarder's Avatar
    In the end it will depend on developers. If a developer sees benefit in porting his Android app to Windows 10's Universal App platform, then the apps will show up.

    However, I don't expect things like Snapchat to come. Because apps like Snapchat, Instagram etc were designed with mobile-only in mind. Therefore the appeal of Universal Apps that also run on Windows PCs and the XBone is non-existent. They are mobile-apps and therefore developers will only look at the mobile scenario. Which is 2.5% marketshare.

    By the way, you can no longer sideload Android apps onto WP10. Microsoft patched that in the latest build.
    Ah, but the point of the Android emulator in WM10 is that for mobile, developers do not need to port an app. Some apps will work without change. If the app uses maps internally then the change is relatively minor ( 10 minutes ).

    So developers like SnapChat no longer need to write a UWA to bring apps to mobile, they just release their Android app.

    And you can still sideload in the latest public version. XDA guys worked a method out.
    10-05-2015 03:37 PM
  18. Paolo Ferrazza's Avatar
    Re: real life. If you want to be a deviant be one in the open, not behind closed doors.
    Mmmmm I like to be a deviant in the open and behind closed doors :D
    10-06-2015 06:34 AM
  19. gwinegarden's Avatar
    Please go discuss windows10 with your friends in a pub then and not here :D . You really are hilarious.
    Funny, I thought that was exactly what this forum is about.
    10-06-2015 08:22 AM
  20. Paolo Ferrazza's Avatar
    Funny, I thought that was exactly what this forum is about.
    You should really read the thread, then read the meaning of the word sarcasm ;)
    10-06-2015 05:45 PM
  21. gwinegarden's Avatar
    You should really read the thread, then read the meaning of the word sarcasm ;)
    You should try harder.
    10-07-2015 07:37 AM
  22. DJCBS's Avatar
    Ah, but the point of the Android emulator in WM10 is that for mobile, developers do not need to port an app. Some apps will work without change. If the app uses maps internally then the change is relatively minor ( 10 minutes ).

    So developers like SnapChat no longer need to write a UWA to bring apps to mobile, they just release their Android app.

    And you can still sideload in the latest public version. XDA guys worked a method out.
    Yes but, again, they will have to WANT to put their apps on a mobile platform with 2.5% of marketshare. And that's the thing. It's easy to put an app in the store. But keeping it has costs. Costs which most of those developers simply aren't willing to pay.
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    10-07-2015 07:22 PM
  23. realwarder's Avatar
    Yes but, again, they will have to WANT to put their apps on a mobile platform with 2.5% of marketshare. And that's the thing. It's easy to put an app in the store. But keeping it has costs. Costs which most of those developers simply aren't willing to pay.
    Wrong. Keeping it has almost no costs. We have apps in the store. When we already have other platforms covered, the support overhead to add 2.5% more users is not a large chunk. If the app is basically the Android one in which case the questions are the same I'd expect it to be around 2.5% of requests. Exactly the same percentage as if it grew on Android by 2.5%.
    xandros9 likes this.
    10-07-2015 08:43 PM
  24. Will Gilliland's Avatar
    I really hope Microsoft and developers take Astoria seriously. I was ready to plunk down my credit card for a pre-ordered 950 while waiting with bated breath for mention of Android on Windows 10 Mobile. I was so disappointed to hear crickets, nothing... nada about the biggest problem Windows 10 Mobile has... the lack of quality apps.

    I am a minimalist. I carry a Surface Pro 3 because I only want one mobile computer. I chose the Microsoft Band over my Garmin 310 because the Band does it all. I will only carry one phone and it must run all the apps I want. I love the Windows 10 Mobile OS, but I just have a few critical apps it doesn't support.
    Addison likes this.
    10-09-2015 05:56 PM
  25. DJCBS's Avatar
    Wrong. Keeping it has almost no costs. We have apps in the store. When we already have other platforms covered, the support overhead to add 2.5% more users is not a large chunk. If the app is basically the Android one in which case the questions are the same I'd expect it to be around 2.5% of requests. Exactly the same percentage as if it grew on Android by 2.5%.
    Except probably the pay-off of an increase of 2.5% on Android is much higher than the 2.5% on WP. Not to mention the Android developers would need to know how to work with the Microsoft conversion tools.
    But hey...if you think that argument is solid enough to justify putting an app on the Windows Store, go try convince Starbucks & Co. of that. Because most major corporations that dropped their apps from WP alleged exactly that, the costs of keeping the apps (others, like Instagram, just abandoned the app).
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    10-12-2015 07:48 PM
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