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  1. Lingeshwaran R's Avatar
    Microsoft makes amazing phones BUT they are not good in DESIGNING phones. MS is out of ideas. Lumias were unique for their design, the 930 and 830 used metal an year ago but the 950 and the 950xl use polycarbonate. Common people think that these phones are useless bcz of their boring design. SO ONLY NOKIA CAN SAVE WINDOWS MOBILE!!
    ssapre and v535 like this.
    11-22-2015 04:31 AM
  2. TLRtheory's Avatar
    Iuno, I think the large metal ring on the 950 has the potential to be an iconic design feature.

    I've already spotted a couple 950 owners in the wild and it's really easy to point out their phone.

    Nokia seemed too fond of a design I always thought was weird: that bland square design with a protruding rounded screen island... I actually never liked that.

    The 950? Especially with that Jack Spade case?! ... absolutely gorgeous.
    11-22-2015 04:42 AM
  3. pericle's Avatar
    Like how they saved Windows Phone before their phone division almost went bankrupt?
    anon(3463402) and editguy like this.
    11-22-2015 04:48 AM
  4. teckris's Avatar
    May be thats why they sold everything and now trying with Android tablets and stuff
    MAHAD93, libra89 and Jakoh like this.
    11-22-2015 05:06 AM
  5. Francis Amar Singh's Avatar
    Windows phone platform will never be iOS kind of following forget about being as good as android os... they will always be 5%-10% of the total mobile market.. complacent mobile OS company... they had their first smart phone running WM OS in 2002 jordana 928 and look at them where they are today???? I was using WM since day one as I tested the jordana 928 itself.. and after the win 10 TP killed my 1020 I moved to android and got my Z5 now and there is no turning back I guess. My lumia 920 is running the latest TP 10586 built and it's so crappy I pity the lumia 950 owners... I almost asked my friend in US to buy and ship a 920XL to me in japan but thinking about my 1020 dying abruptly I decided to buy z5 here instead as at least it will have product support and repair in japan. . So long windows phone....
    Last edited by Francis Amar Singh; 11-22-2015 at 04:24 PM.
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    11-22-2015 06:14 AM
  6. Bobvfr's Avatar
    Microsoft makes amazing phones BUT they are not good in DESIGNING phones. MS is out of ideas. Lumias were unique for their design, the 930 and 830 used metal an year ago but the 950 and the 950xl use polycarbonate. Common people think that these phones are useless bcz of their boring design. SO ONLY NOKIA CAN SAVE WINDOWS MOBILE!!
    I think that ship sailed ages ago and has since sunk.............................
    MAHAD93, libra89 and realwarder like this.
    11-22-2015 06:28 AM
  7. justonlumia's Avatar
    I did like the design of Lumia 800 when it first came but then it became like the Xperia with all the following devices with the same design.The only design from Nokia I liked was the similar 830 with more accents.

    Its not design that is the problem, the OS itself is no where good enough compared to the 2 giants. Samsung made some of the not good looking devices which did well while HTC failed with some of the most beautiful androids

    I carry a Galaxy A7 (KitKat) with my Lumia 640 (still 8.1) and the differences in basic itself is quite large. I can only recommend buying a low end WP for the adults and elderly who just need a "phone with a big display" not a smartphone
    11-22-2015 07:34 AM
  8. keithhackneysmullet's Avatar
    The biggest critique of the 950/950 xl is Nokia's design. Microsoft stuck with old Nokia designs 2 years too long .
    11-22-2015 08:13 AM
  9. hd256's Avatar
    Just wait for the Surface phone ...
    MAHAD93 and editguy like this.
    11-22-2015 10:21 AM
  10. Ma Rio's Avatar
    Design sucks for all Lumias, except somehow for the 1520 (and I'm not saying that because I have a 1520, but because it's really good lookin').
    Wait for the surface phone, or switch to another OEM / OS.
    Francis Amar Singh likes this.
    11-22-2015 11:44 AM
  11. TLRtheory's Avatar
    Design is honestly always gonna be subjective. I like my Lumias to look like the Surface, so while it's the weakest of my Windows Phone collection, I like the way the 635's designed better than all the other Lumias.
    libra89 likes this.
    11-22-2015 01:53 PM
  12. EspHack's Avatar
    say what you want, but back in 2012, "lumia" was a thing, future was brighter than it is today, and people recognized what a lumia was, a camera king, the "new" thing, expensive enough to make people curious and wishing to try one

    now it is non-existent, and at best people would say that it is that cheap phone you get when you cant afford a real one(ios or droid)
    firdausikal likes this.
    11-22-2015 02:12 PM
  13. MrMetalist's Avatar
    I personally really like design of my 1520. 950/950XL looking great to me. Hoping to get one of those soon.
    11-22-2015 02:29 PM
  14. anon(7929613)'s Avatar
    I think that ship sailed ages ago and has since sunk.............................
    Like a submarine that can come up any moment! Of one company that challenged apple in terms of innovation, design and originality, it's Nokia.
    11-22-2015 02:49 PM
  15. anon(7929613)'s Avatar
    Microsoft makes amazing phones BUT they are not good in DESIGNING phones. MS is out of ideas. Lumias were unique for their design!!
    I totally agree with your point. Lumias were known for their unique but stylist designs. Each Lumia model had a different design and its not an easy thing to do. Just look at Samsung or Sony, all their devices look the same.
    Lumias 1520 is the best looking phone for me. That's the peak of designing. Nothing comes closer.
    Please Microsoft, do not destroy this brand.
    Lingeshwaran R likes this.
    11-22-2015 02:58 PM
  16. twint7787's Avatar
    You do realize that Nokia was mostly responsible for designing these phones and that MS bought that division from Nokia. Who exactly do you want to design these phones?
    jmshub and editguy like this.
    11-22-2015 03:04 PM
  17. Bobvfr's Avatar
    Yes there is always a possibility that Nokia will design and then have someone else build a nice looking phone, but it wont have anything to do with Windows.

    Please go through some recent history, Nokia was in trouble, they had missed the smart phone bandwagon just like MS, MS unlike Nokia had lots of cash and needed a partner to make hardware that would use WP software, so they started a partnership, MS pumped lots of money into Nokia but they were still going broke and MS almost had no choice but to buy the phone making division of Nokia.

    They did not buy Nokia, they are still an independent company now rich on MS money but no phone making division.

    MS tried to incorporate a loss making entity into it's way of doing things but phone designs don't happen overnight and pretty much all of the designs for the "Lumia" range of phones are still from the Lumia division of MS but drawn up when they were part of Nokia.

    MS pretty much gave up a few months ago when they wrote off the several billion dollars they had used to buy the Nokia phone making division.

    It did one thing, it gave them a slim but still alive lifeline to some kind of future for Windows on mobiles.

    I am here for Windows on phones, my phone just happens to be a Nokia Lumia 1520, I know some people are died in the wool fans of Nokia but they do not have a phone division, if they do ever go back into the phone game it will be as designers but even then most of them went over to MS, and then the phones will be made elsewhere and they will have Android or some other OS, the chances of them ever having Windows are far slimmer than finding new WP in a Verizon shop (I can see that happening in a few months, whereas there is zero chance of a new Nokia phone using Windows).

    If you are so in love with Nokia that you cannot see how Nokia failed because they didn't see the future, then maybe time for new glasses I am afraid.
    11-22-2015 03:14 PM
  18. msirapian's Avatar
    I was at Slush last week, in Helsinki. I heard the CEO of Nokia (of the board) during a "how do you make a century-old company" (Slush is startup centric). Well, he was asked about phones and he said "Nokia is out of the handset business. If we return to the mobile business, it's certainly not at handset level, as there's no longer room for innovation. Always a touchscreen, 500+ Android manufacturers, if we Nokia are to return on the mobile business, it will be under a more disruptive way".

    The short version is "Nokia is out of the smartphone business".
    11-22-2015 04:05 PM
  19. DavidinCT's Avatar
    Nah, the phones are fine, Nothing to do with that. Sure the 950/950XL are not the fanciest looking phones in the world but, the hold their own in a basic design and allowing 3rd parties to make back covers that completely re-designs how the phone looks. Nice covers so far...

    What Microsoft needs to do is get the budget to start a marketing campaign again, KILL every layout they had promoting the phone and change the pattern of it. Apple did this a while ago with the PC thing, Microsoft should go towards the "Think Different" type of marketing commercials.

    Everyone has a iOS or Android device, so why not go down this marketing road....If anything you can get people looking into the phone, and just maybe they will buy one, the more that buy it, the more apps that come out and that will make us all happy...
    Laura Knotek, libra89 and editguy like this.
    11-22-2015 04:06 PM
  20. MAHAD93's Avatar
    That's not to say they were not capable of doing so...Look at Nokia's history man....It was MS and Windows that came in WAAY too late.
    11-22-2015 04:13 PM
  21. MAHAD93's Avatar
    Just wait for the Surface phone ...
    Yeah!!

    (x86 Intel pone): :D :D
    calfee20 likes this.
    11-22-2015 04:16 PM
  22. Francis Amar Singh's Avatar
    Just wait for the Surface phone ...
    2 year wait is not good enough????? I gave up on microsoft and moved on to android
    11-22-2015 04:21 PM
  23. Francis Amar Singh's Avatar
    Nah, the phones are fine, Nothing to do with that. Sure the 950/950XL are not the fanciest looking phones in the world but, the hold their own in a basic design and allowing 3rd parties to make back covers that completely re-designs how the phone looks. Nice covers so far...

    What Microsoft needs to do is get the budget to start a marketing campaign again, KILL every layout they had promoting the phone and change the pattern of it. Apple did this a while ago with the PC thing, Microsoft should go towards the "Think Different" type of marketing commercials.

    Everyone has a iOS or Android device, so why not go down this marketing road....If anything you can get people looking into the phone, and just maybe they will buy one, the more that buy it, the more apps that come out and that will make us all happy...
    I agree with you on microsoft should market their devices but when they make new models every 18 to 24 months market what????
    DavidinCT likes this.
    11-22-2015 04:29 PM
  24. PachecoCorporationCeo's Avatar
    Nah I never cared much for Nokia phones only the OS that MSFT made. The only thing that'll save it is the apps and MSFT commitment.
    11-22-2015 04:40 PM
  25. DJCBS's Avatar
    I was at Slush last week, in Helsinki. I heard the CEO of Nokia (of the board) during a "how do you make a century-old company" (Slush is startup centric). Well, he was asked about phones and he said "Nokia is out of the handset business. If we return to the mobile business, it's certainly not at handset level, as there's no longer room for innovation. Always a touchscreen, 500+ Android manufacturers, if we Nokia are to return on the mobile business, it will be under a more disruptive way".

    The short version is "Nokia is out of the smartphone business".
    1 - Source. Also..."CEO of Nokia (of the Board)" means what? The CEO of Nokia - Rajeev Suri - the CEO of Nokia Technologies - Haidamus - or Nokia's Chairman - Risto Siilasmaa?
    2 - Nokia has already officially spoke about that. No, they will not return to the manufacturing of phones. That doesn't mean they won't return to phones. Furthermore, the last statutory change to Nokia Technologies core objectives not only includes mobile devices, it also includes health and smart-wearables.
    3 - If you're one of those rooting for the non-return of Nokia phones, you will be disappointed ;)
    11-22-2015 08:04 PM
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