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  1. missionsparta's Avatar
    12-22-2015 11:16 PM
  2. RhinoFreak's Avatar
    Yes each and every word he said was true. I really like Pocketnow's reviews (Especially Michael Fischer's)
    The phone really is a "nope" right now lol.

    Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
    12-22-2015 11:38 PM
  3. Josh Harman's Avatar
    I have the 950, not the XL, but I've had ZERO of the issues here. With exception of the lacking apps and app compatibility - which is long known and expected with Windows 10 being so new, respectively.
    12-23-2015 12:18 AM
  4. Slovenix's Avatar
    Nope nope nope.
    12-23-2015 12:38 AM
  5. missionsparta's Avatar
    I have the 950, not the XL, but I've had ZERO of the issues here. With exception of the lacking apps and app compatibility - which is long known and expected with Windows 10 being so new, respectively.
    I was talking less about issues and more about him telling everyone to stop saying Windows 10 mobile is beta. If it is beta, they wouldn't be selling the thing.
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    12-23-2015 12:48 AM
  6. DavidinCT's Avatar
    I watched that review 2 times now and it's dead on. No matter how much we all love Windows 10 phone, it's a buggy mess. For the most part it's good but, app crashes, start menu crashes, battery drain, and most other issues are very common but, happens across devices. Preview and 950/950XL models.

    You cant honestly sit here and say NONE of these issues affected you at all... I know fanboys WILL be fanboys but, there are issues.

    Read through the preview threads and 950 and 950XL threads, 95% of the problems he said are not unknown on here.

    It's no longer a beta, all these issues should of been resolved before these models were released.
    12-23-2015 08:15 AM
  7. SeeVuPlay's Avatar
    Wait til next year!
    12-23-2015 08:41 AM
  8. Josh Harman's Avatar
    I watched that review 2 times now and it's dead on. No matter how much we all love Windows 10 phone, it's a buggy mess. For the most part it's good but, app crashes, start menu crashes, battery drain, and most other issues are very common but, happens across devices. Preview and 950/950XL models.

    You cant honestly sit here and say NONE of these issues affected you at all... I know fanboys WILL be fanboys but, there are issues.

    Read through the preview threads and 950 and 950XL threads, 95% of the problems he said are not unknown on here.

    It's no longer a beta, all these issues should of been resolved before these models were released.
    I can honestly say that NONE of those issues are happening on my 950. Sure, I had one app that caused a restart & lag but it was old nonessential lock screen app, uninstalled & back to normal.

    I don't know why I haven't had any of the issues we've all seen reported, but I haven't.
    12-23-2015 09:43 AM
  9. Richard Culverhouse's Avatar
    ...I don't know why I haven't had any of the issues we've all seen reported, but I haven't.
    No problems in my 950xl.
    I swear most of the so-called 'tech authors' go out of their way to find problems with Microsoft stuff lol
    12-23-2015 10:01 AM
  10. Josh Harman's Avatar
    No problems in my 950xl.
    I swear most of the so-called 'tech authors' go out of their way to find problems with Microsoft stuff lol
    I believe the silent majority aren't having these issues either.
    12-23-2015 10:13 AM
  11. amitnahar's Avatar
    The review is spot on imo. Very honest. WPXBOX is another site which covers Windows News in India and it has also given a 7 to software on W10m.

    Maybe it will get better but right now it's riddled with bugs (a whole lot of them are there) and not as stable as WP8 or even 8.1 was
    12-23-2015 10:27 AM
  12. RhinoFreak's Avatar
    No problems in my 950xl.
    I swear most of the so-called 'tech authors' go out of their way to find problems with Microsoft stuff lol
    Really? We clearly see start menu hanging up and going black, camera errors on his device. You're being ignorant.
    Even if YOU did not have these problems and majority does, it's still a buggy OS.
    Stop defending what's wrong.

    Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
    12-23-2015 11:32 AM
  13. missionsparta's Avatar
    Really? We clearly see start menu hanging up and going black, camera errors on his device. You're being ignorant.
    Even if YOU did not have these problems and majority does, it's still a buggy OS.
    Stop defending what's wrong.

    Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
    I'm a massive Microsoft fan, but ill call them out in a second when they are sticking it to the consumers. Making excuses where there is real problems, just helps them not have to address the issue.
    12-23-2015 11:37 AM
  14. Josh Harman's Avatar
    Really? We clearly see start menu hanging up and going black, camera errors on his device. You're being ignorant.
    Even if YOU did not have these problems and majority does, it's still a buggy OS.
    Stop defending what's wrong.

    Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
    No point in getting upset and calling others names. As much as it is fact that there are bugs and issues with some, it's also true that some are having no issues - I'm one of the latter with a 950, works great. Sorry.
    12-23-2015 11:38 AM
  15. RhinoFreak's Avatar
    No point in getting upset and calling others names. As much as it is fact that there are bugs and issues with some, it's also true that some are having no issues - I'm one of the latter with a 950, works great. Sorry.
    I believe you, but my point is even if less than 10% of people have issues (which mind you, is not the case here), as a whole we have to say that OS is not working well. It's still buggy, because of its inconsistency.

    Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
    12-23-2015 11:42 AM
  16. DavidinCT's Avatar
    We all need to remember, for every 5 phones here that people own, there is about 200 people with the phone who has NEVER heard of WindowsCentral.

    There are bugs out there, I dont even own a 950 or 950XL but, I have been reading them over and over on other sites
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    12-23-2015 01:10 PM
  17. Grant Taylor3's Avatar
    I have aLumia 1020 & a Lumia 950 running Windows 10 mobile. they are both runnng fine and I think 10 runs better on the 1020 than 8.1 did.
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    12-23-2015 02:00 PM
  18. sleeve22's Avatar
    I think anyone who was enrolled as an Insider was not surprised to find out the OS was not ready. My experience with my 950 exceeded my expectations hardware wise, but I was always under the impression I would be starting out with a beta OS. I don’t think this was much different with launch of WP7 and WP8, we knew what we were getting into, and slowly but surely the OS improved and stabilized. I feel most of the bugs that some of us are encountering will soon be swept away with consistent updates. Fingers crossed.
    12-23-2015 02:53 PM
  19. DavidinCT's Avatar
    My experience with my 950 exceeded my expectations hardware wise, but I was always under the impression I would be starting out with a beta OS..
    This is the BIG problem, go into a store, Pay TOP dollar for a phone ($650 is towards the higher end of phones) and you get beta software.

    Microsoft's name with big companies are going down hill because of this stuff... Enough with releasing OS's that are not finished just to meet a deadline.
    12-23-2015 02:58 PM
  20. sleeve22's Avatar
    This is the BIG problem, go into a store, Pay TOP dollar for a phone ($650 is towards the higher end of phones) and you get beta software.

    Microsoft's name with big companies are going down hill because of this stuff... Enough with releasing OS's that are not finished just to meet a deadline.
    I agree completely. I always said I don't know why they didn't just launch this phone a year ago with 8.1 but lacking some of the "features". Then when the OS was ready have the 950 family be first inline to get the OS update and firmware to open up the features".
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    12-23-2015 03:17 PM
  21. Pierre Blackwell's Avatar
    This is a part of the paradigm shift that MSFT is trying to create with regards to the term "beta" software in an OS that will constantly be getting updates. Most of us on this website have been with the Windows phone community long enough to know the issues that have plagued this ecosystem. Transitioning from the tradition ecosystem structure, MSFT open the flood gates and allowed users to become a part of the testing bank as they continued to put together both Windows 10 and Windows 10 mobile. Just some things that you might want to consider before ranting off:

    1. If you weren't apart of the Insider/ Developer preview for a while none of these issues should surprise you. Take advantage of testing the OS before you blast it. There was a lot the changed in the structure of Windows mobile 10. Beta simply means that expect updates often as there will be many tweaks, unlike in the past where an OS would be released after much anticipation and then a big update would come along once a year or so. Remember Windows or Windows phone 8 and 8.1??

    2. Understand what MSFT is trying to do...again this won't surprise those who have been following the writing on the wall. I don't expect things to be close to what a fully capable Windows mobile phone will look like until the Surface phone comes out. Does that not mean that it's not a fully functioning phone ecosystem now....absolutely not. I've been using the developers preview on my 940XL the past four months and it's been working like a champ. Of course it resets every once in a while, of course it might freeze every once in a while, but again, understanding the dynamics of the situation, I know what to expect.

    I'm not going to say that the author of this article is off base because some valid points are made, however it is from one persons perspective and I think it's a comparative perspective to the other mobile ecosystems out there, which MSFT is not trying to be. As far as I am concerned Windows 10 mobile is still in beta. That doesn't mean it doesn't work. If most of the people in this discussion aren't experiencing any issues mentioned in the article, there is your answer to why MSFT released it.
    12-23-2015 05:24 PM
  22. runamuck83's Avatar
    Actually, if you're installing this OS via Insider Preview on anything else other than the Lumia 950/XL - it is actually "unreleased". So... yea it kind of is "beta" on those devices.

    Given that - that's not an excuse for some of the issues that still exist in the release that shipped with 950/XL.
    12-23-2015 05:38 PM
  23. telomoyo's Avatar
    Mine has not had a single one of those problems, and it has only had the iris-scanner-staying-on-after-a-missed-call problem on occasions, which doesn't appear to be a common one. I'm definitely not a fanboy. If anything I'm a fanboy of the Palm Pre. Lol. I had a few Samsung's and Iphone after that beautiful phone...(nostalgic now).
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    12-23-2015 05:58 PM
  24. missionsparta's Avatar
    The point is, everytime Microsoft does a garbage job on something, they just slap Beta on it and yell "SAFE". For crying out loud, when you click your search button on Windows phone, Cortana comes up with a little 'Beta' in the upper right corner. When will this thing be out of beta? 2023?
    12-23-2015 08:36 PM
  25. kristalsoldier's Avatar
    The point is, everytime Microsoft does a garbage job on something, they just slap Beta on it and yell "SAFE". For crying out loud, when you click your search button on Windows phone, Cortana comes up with a little 'Beta' in the upper right corner. When will this thing be out of beta? 2023?
    Its like when I used to use Gmail and used to wonder about when the damn service would be out of Beta for years. Eventually, Google did removed Gmail from Beta but it was a long time coming.
    12-23-2015 09:49 PM
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