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  1. sulistyarso's Avatar
    Hello buddies, i use windows 10 mobile on my lumia 720. I still got freezing screen even at latest build .36. I just curious, how many time you got freezing screen in a day? How do you suffer from that? :) because freezing screen happen when using standard apps like camera, photos, message, personally i use camera360 sight to handle camera n photos galery.
    zapppa83 likes this.
    12-23-2015 11:07 PM
  2. EspHack's Avatar
    I don't think even having 4gb ram would change that, I'm certain the OS cant even know if there is more ram it just uses the same tiny bit and shows a resuming screen cause that's what its meant to do

    yes I have a 928 and 1520, they both freeze just as much
    Maritox Cacici likes this.
    12-24-2015 01:05 AM
  3. Bobcat665's Avatar
    I have a L520 that I used w10 on for a while and I had very few problems with it. HOWEVER, I've always made it a practice to start any and all major OS upgrades from scratch: I wipe the device clean (via system reset/hard reset) and I usually don't restore much data from previous installs, if any at all. If you don't start from scratch, you're just asking for problems...
    a5cent likes this.
    12-24-2015 01:37 AM
  4. deepak12345's Avatar
    Usin it on a 625 and a 640. The 625's screen gets that problem all the time the 640 till now never has gotten it. Its buttery smooth. And @esphack, it never depends on the ram even if ram is 512mb but u have a quad core processor it will run without lag. About your 1520 maybe uts just yours. 928 totally because of processor.
    12-24-2015 01:46 AM
  5. sulistyarso's Avatar
    928 and 1520 got freezing screen also. Really? :o
    I dont know exactly reason that make freezing on my phone. But i agree if ram not the reason, because when screen freezed, only display stuck, but the music still playing, and i still hear notif sound. Freezing screen is main problem i face when use windows 10 mobile, even i do hard reset, freezing screen still there. I think several last build is good, lot people not reset their device but still fine use it. Btw thanks all :)
    tushar_kp likes this.
    12-24-2015 03:20 AM
  6. Maritox Cacici's Avatar
    Im using it on a 520. It happens mostly on the interface. When i play a game i have no problems. I see it when I go to settings or opening some configuration. I didn't do a hard reset. And I didn't do it because my friend's 640 behaves exactly the same way and we did hard reset That one cuz was new. Sadly from 8.0 to 8.1 we got the resuming issue and now on 10 this is the new problem. I hope they fix it and not just ignore it.
    12-24-2015 03:29 AM
  7. sulistyarso's Avatar
    Im using it on a 520. It happens mostly on the interface. When i play a game i have no problems. I see it when I go to settings or opening some configuration. I didn't do a hard reset. And I didn't do it because my friend's 640 behaves exactly the same way and we did hard reset That one cuz was new. Sadly from 8.0 to 8.1 we got the resuming issue and now on 10 this is the new problem. I hope they fix it and not just ignore it.
    On my lumia 720 latest build .36 all apps up to date. I got freezing screen the most when open photos then pressing back to start screen, if you got it when open setting configuration maybe the problem still random out there :D
    12-24-2015 03:44 AM
  8. LumiaWorld's Avatar
    I have the 520, W10M is running great on this phone. There are still some hiccups and bugs though. But it is perfectly usable. It's buttery smooth.

    I experience the freezing thing maybe about 2-3x a week
    Bobcat665 likes this.
    12-24-2015 04:02 AM
  9. sulistyarso's Avatar
    I have the 520, W10M is running great on this phone. There are still some hiccups and bugs though. But it is perfectly usable. It's buttery smooth.

    I experience the freezing thing maybe about 2-3x a week
    Wow its great! Maybe i need fresh install everything from scratch to gain best performance. Thanks buddy.. :)
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    12-24-2015 04:37 AM
  10. LumiaWorld's Avatar
    Wow its great! Maybe i need fresh install everything from scratch to gain best performance. Thanks buddy.. :)
    Yup, you must hard reset your phone for best performance. I recommend doing it AFTER installing the W10M update.

    But still, nothing beats 8.1 in terms of performance. W10 < 8.1 still when it comes to smoothness and reliability! :)
    sulistyarso likes this.
    12-24-2015 05:30 AM
  11. Nam Long's Avatar
    My Lumia 520 also has the freezing issues . It has improved MUCH since 2 previous builds ( 2-3 times a day to 0-1 times a week ).
    I notice it has something to do with force closing or sudden closing of running app . For example : It easily occurs when I force closing FB beta but if I back out first then close it , the freezing barely happens .
    I also advise doing a hard reset for each upgrade . I don't restore backup either . Just start fresh
    sulistyarso likes this.
    12-24-2015 05:38 AM
  12. mukulagarwal's Avatar
    I have Lumia 720 do u recomend me to still install I on my phone.i am currently using 8.1.
    I am just too curious to use win 10?
    12-24-2015 07:59 AM
  13. Maritox Cacici's Avatar
    what bothers me its that they never fixed the resuming thing on 8.1 so i hope they fix these freezings on 10. I would go back to 8.0 happy but the apps on the SD its the only that keeps me from doing so.
    sulistyarso likes this.
    12-24-2015 08:10 AM
  14. sulistyarso's Avatar
    I have Lumia 720 do u recomend me to still install I on my phone.i am currently using 8.1.
    I am just too curious to use win 10?
    To cure that curious, maybe u need to try insider. Because my stable is different with your stable. I use windows 10 mobile as daily on my lumia 720. But if you wanna try u should know that this is still beta and theres problem sometimes. If you have windows phone 8.1 os on windows device recovery tool is better, so you can roll back anytime if you want. :)
    12-24-2015 09:37 AM
  15. jagger9270's Avatar
    512 ram ??
    12-25-2015 04:46 AM
  16. a5cent's Avatar
    Yup, you must hard reset your phone for best performance. I recommend doing it AFTER installing the W10M update.
    That shouldn't be just a recommendation. It's a necessity! Doing a hard reset before upgrading can also have its reasons (faster updating), but in terms of starting from a clean slate, it's close to useless. If you are going to do only one hard reset, you must do it after upgrading to W10M.

    Restoring from backup also has the potential to reinstall all the stuff you were trying to get rid of with the hard reset, so reinstalling all the old stuff from backup after a hard reset isn't exactly an incredibly smart thing to do.

    If a person is going to start fresh, might as well do it right.
    12-25-2015 05:20 AM
  17. brusbrother's Avatar
    What are specific steps for "hard reset"?
    12-25-2015 05:37 AM
  18. Laplaz's Avatar
    What are specific steps for "hard reset"?
    You can find at about phone or with combination key after shutdown the phone
    12-25-2015 05:42 AM
  19. sulistyarso's Avatar
    That shouldn't be just a recommendation. It's a necessity! Doing a hard reset before upgrading can also have its reasons (faster updating), but in terms of starting from a clean slate, it's close to useless. If you are going to do only one hard reset, you must do it after upgrading to W10M.
    You always do that? Reset, before and after update? Its cool, :D i usually only do it once after, but the several last build i try it first without reset. I mean its normal update should be. We can update without lost data. Its ok for me to do hard reset, but the freezing screen problem still there, even after hard reset. Maybe every update process bring different state on every device. Because there some device got less freezing after do hard reset, but on me, i still got some after reset. Maybe luck's factor also hahaha

    512 ram ??
    Ahaha.. I mean 520, 620, 720, and other friends
    Last edited by xandros9; 12-25-2015 at 12:51 PM.
    12-25-2015 05:53 AM
  20. a5cent's Avatar
    ..but the several last build i try it first without reset. I mean its normal update should be. We can update without lost data.
    Nope. It's only a normal update if you have a L950/XL. Getting the update process to work reliably on all other devices is exactly the type of thing MS could still be working on at this time.
    ..always do that? Reset, before and after update? Its cool, :D i usually only do it once after...
    Nope. Not always, but often. It can make sense if you have a lot of apps or data, as removing them first accelerates the update process and removes potential for errors. On WP8.0 it could also occasionally avoid certain update issues, but I haven't heard about that potentially fixing anything for a long time now, so I don't think it's really necessary.
    Last edited by a5cent; 12-27-2015 at 03:39 AM. Reason: spelling
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    12-25-2015 07:53 AM
  21. zapppa83's Avatar
    Hello buddies, i use windows 10 mobile on my lumia 720. I still got freezing screen even at latest build .36. I just curious, how many time you got freezing screen in a day? How do you suffer from that? :) because freezing screen happen when using standard apps like camera, photos, message, personally i use camera360 sight to handle camera n photos galery.
    4-5...go back to 8.1
    12-25-2015 10:14 AM
  22. zapppa83's Avatar
    With 625

    -Frequent freeze with intense use
    -Camera is lagging everywhere
    -With Groove(many bugs on it) playing the phone became extremely slow
    -Edge is bugged and slow
    -Battery 30% worse than 8.1

    It's an alpha OS definitively. Unusable for me. I bought Windows Phone for his speed and fluidity. If they loss that they are dead. Also the 550 is slow and buggy said some reviews here in Italy.
    12-25-2015 10:19 AM
  23. sulistyarso's Avatar
    With 625

    -Frequent freeze with intense use
    -Camera is lagging everywhere
    -With Groove(many bugs on it) playing the phone became extremely slow
    -Edge is bugged and slow
    -Battery 30% worse than 8.1

    It's an alpha OS definitively. Unusable for me. I bought Windows Phone for his speed and fluidity. If they loss that they are dead. Also the 550 is slow and buggy said some reviews here in Italy.
    Yup, worse than lot people expectation, personally i like windows 10 mobile but performance not good enough as 8.1. I still suffer since 10581 to provide feedback and waiting the surprise from ms :) btw im not yet interest with 950/550 too expensive for me hhohoho..
    12-25-2015 01:05 PM
  24. Ariel Takom's Avatar
    Sometimes I'm just not sure how most people here complain about W10M freezing on their device and blaming Microsoft for it. You can blame Microsoft for the bugginess of the OS on their flagships, 950/XL, but from reading most of the user impressions here, WMPU forums, and in /r/windowsphone, most people who use the latest OS on phones other than the 950/XL generally have a good experience with it. Most of those who complains and rants about the supposed "bugginess" of the OS are using it on phones that in the first place were never meant to get that update anyway: Lumia devices with 512MB RAM. You'll be surprised to see how many people who posts complaints regarding the OS were actually using it on ancient phones ESPECIALLY ON THE 520.

    The basis of "if the phone could handle WP8.1, it surely can handle W10M" is not valid. Heck, using my 620 for 2 years made me realize that as much as the WP OS is optimized for lower end phones, the hardware itself is bottle-necking the performance of the OS. Even my 620 on WP8.1 had lag issues, and I'm pretty sure if I updated it to W10M, I'll have a very bad and laggy experience. But the question I would've asked myself would be: Is the drawback in performance due to the software, or is it due to the hardware? Of course, my 620 came out of the box with WP8.0, and it was blazing smooth. But the OS at that time were really stripped down, with lots of features currently available on W10M and WP8.1 were not available back then (action centre, anyone?). After the 8.1 update, my phone's performance worsened. Lags were a norm, and battery life became worse. I really blamed the update for it at first, but after upgrading to my current 830, my eyes were opened. WP8.1 was really smooth on the 830, and the overall feel of the OS on my new phone is a big leap from what it was on my 620.

    What I'm trying to say here is that, sometimes, we require better hardware to support new software. I personally just updated my 830 to W10M this week, and it's been a really smooth sail so far in terms of performance. Bugs were non-existant except for a few veeeery minor bugs that doesn't really affect the overall experience with the OS (ask me later if you want to know more about these bugs). The only downside to W10M for me are only the features of the core apps of the OS, such as Groove Music and the People Apps. Other than that, I really have nothing much to complain about.

    But of course, I understand that some of you held on to your old Lumias due to your financial situation, and I respect that. But then again, you should also note that complaining about the instability of an OS when it's actually the hardware of your phone is bottlenecking it's performance, is really unfair and serves only to generate more negativity to an OS that is actually really good and very usable (it's on par with WP8.1 IMO).
    12-25-2015 08:52 PM
  25. sulistyarso's Avatar
    Sometimes I'm just not sure how most people here complain about W10M freezing on their device and blaming Microsoft for it. You can blame Microsoft for the bugginess of the OS on their flagships, 950/XL, but from reading most of the user impressions here, WMPU forums, and in /r/windowsphone, most people who use the latest OS on phones other than the 950/XL generally have a good experience with it. Most of those who complains and rants about the supposed "bugginess" of the OS are using it on phones that in the first place were never meant to get that update anyway: Lumia devices with 512MB RAM. You'll be surprised to see how many people who posts complaints regarding the OS were actually using it on ancient phones ESPECIALLY ON THE 520.
    Ahaha, yup maybe youre right, lot people really like to complain for everything. But not all people. If there forum talk about the good, its not wrong if talk about the bad. Because that ancient phone were supported by MS to try windows 10 mobile, so people want their phone can run w10m with good performance. Yes we need better hardware for better os performance, but it not mean to throw away your old phone. I think its fair if some people talk about the bad and give feedback to windows feedback app. The freezing or the other bad problems maybe not appear on new phone, but not mean it not exist, maybe it will be problem someday. Come on give more better feedback to ms :)
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    12-25-2015 11:34 PM
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