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  1. Diego Ceccacci's Avatar
    As i said in another thread, 930 didnt have glance, 950 dont have double tap, next top gamma wont have the proximity sensor :D
    01-28-2016 10:09 AM
  2. Steve Thackery's Avatar
    i love on-screen buttons. this makes the appearance of the phone elegant and simple. i don't like real buttons which cannot be hidden and make the phone looks clumsy.
    I'm the opposite. With on-screen buttons you either have to resign yourself to sacrificing the space they take up, or you put them on auto-hide and you have to flick them up every time. Damn nuisance.

    The 1520's buttons are still part of the glass, so basically not visible except when the phone is powered up, when they are lit. By far the most elegant solution compared with the obvious cost-cutting of the 950XL.
    theefman and Kram Sacul like this.
    01-28-2016 10:25 AM
  3. Steve Thackery's Avatar
    This should be a no brainer. The 1520 is outdated, take the 950 XL.
    In what way is the 1520 outdated? Give us some technical details, and comparison with current phones.
    01-28-2016 10:27 AM
  4. Wes Smith's Avatar
    Three weeks ago, I sent my Lumia 1520 to repair because of the "ghost-touch" issue. I had to send it by post to Madrid because since Microsoft acquired Nokia the technical service was removed in Barcelona.

    Some days ago I sent them an e-mail because after two weeks I had still not received any news on the repair status of my device. So it seems I had to send an e-mail first (argh) for them to let me know that they are NOT giving me back my Lumia 1520 (!!!) because the compontents have been discontinued, but sending me a Lumia 950XL instead, BUT, because for some odd reason Microsoft still doesn't have stock of the 950 or 950XL in Spain, they cannot send it yet.

    First I was very angry because of this news, because I love the Lumia 1520 design and I find the 950 and 950 XL to be awful. Also I hate on-screen buttons and, oh god, NO DOUBLE TAP TO WAKE?! And as I've read the battery life is not as good as the one on the 1520.

    So what do you guys think? Do you think I should push to get my 1520 back, or accept the 950 XL? What are the advantadges of the 950XL other than the Continuum feature in comparison to the Lumia 1520?

    You are getting a good deal. I would take it
    01-28-2016 04:15 PM
  5. James Weimar's Avatar
    I wish I could
    01-28-2016 04:47 PM
  6. James Weimar's Avatar
    I wish I could that deal,, just today they told me that the preview build I am using (1-27-2016) is not intended for the 1520. Why did MSFT and AT&T PUSH IT OUT? The recovery tool does not recognize the as it did 3 weeks ago . If only they would give me a replacement 950/950xl I'd be a happy camper. It's too bad because I like the windows phone in general, but as is my LG escape probably works better.
    01-28-2016 04:56 PM
  7. SpinalRemains's Avatar
    This is a no brainer. The 1520 has been discontinued and they're sending you a brand new device.

    Tap to wake? Come on. You don't want to press a button?
    01-28-2016 05:08 PM
  8. halflifecrysis's Avatar
    I'd be happy that you can sell the XL and buy 2 1520's (one as a back up) or a 1520 and a 1020 or a 1520 and pocket the rest. You have options, but I'd sorely miss my 6" screen personally.
    01-28-2016 05:35 PM
  9. colinkiama's Avatar
    In what way is the 1520 outdated? Give us some technical details, and comparison with current phones.
    Snapdragon 800 was released in 2013, Snapdragon 810 in 2015. 1080p vs 2K, newer camera algorithms 1.3MP front facing camera vs 5MP front facing camera Dual-LED flash vs Triple LED etc. No USB 3.0 or type-C on the 1520, no continuum, no security features like a finger print/iris scanner too. 1520 has a bit of bezel and thickess to it compared to the 950XL but that was part of the design at the time.

    That's it really.
    01-28-2016 06:54 PM
  10. halflifecrysis's Avatar
    Snapdragon 800 was released in 2013, Snapdragon 810 in 2015. 1080p vs 2K, newer camera algorithms 1.3MP front facing camera vs 5MP front facing camera Dual-LED flash vs Triple LED etc. No USB 3.0 or type-C on the 1520, no continuum, no security features like a finger print/iris scanner too. 1520 has a bit of bezel and thickess to it compared to the 950XL but that was part of the design at the time.

    That's it really.
    The 950 spec wise rolling off the line 3 years later would give it an edge on ticking the boxes on features that did not exist previously.

    However it still does not make the 1520 outdated. The 1520 still has it's larger screen, great battery and W10 upgrade going for it. It's still running W10 and some would say smoother than the 950.

    If someone knew nothing about these phones and you put a brand new 950xl and a brand new 1520 in their hands (both on W10) I'd bet most would assume the 1520 is the flagship phone. The feel alone would determine that.

    Spec wise the 950 absolutely is better, but I'd put the 1520 against iPhone 6 and Galaxy phones which still makes it relevant and king of phablet @ 6 inches.
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    01-28-2016 07:39 PM
  11. fdruid's Avatar
    No, you actually made a good swap, the XL is a great phone. Those are minor design things. Double tap to wake might come back anytime. Enjoy it, it's really a great Lumia. For example, you won't have ghost-tough because that's a design flaw.
    01-28-2016 07:53 PM
  12. theefman's Avatar
    Get it and sell it to buy another 1520. That phone has no equal in the WP device annals of fame, I doubt the same will be said of the 950 series phones after they have been retired.
    01-28-2016 07:59 PM
  13. halflifecrysis's Avatar
    No, you actually made a good swap, the XL is a great phone. Those are minor design things. Double tap to wake might come back anytime. Enjoy it, it's really a great Lumia. For example, you won't have ghost-tough because that's a design flaw.
    Cough cough, little early to assume these new phones won't have their share of issues. The OLED screen alone is going to cause countless burn in threads in about 8 months just like the 1020. I have 2 1520's and neither have the ghost touch. :-)

    Again, not saying getting a phone you can sell for 500.00 for a phone you can buy for 200.00 is a bum deal either. I'd take it and at least try out the 950XL for a few weeks.
    01-28-2016 08:21 PM
  14. peter leung 10586's Avatar
    I'm the opposite. With on-screen buttons you either have to resign yourself to sacrificing the space they take up, or you put them on auto-hide and you have to flick them up every time. Damn nuisance.

    The 1520's buttons are still part of the glass, so basically not visible except when the phone is powered up, when they are lit. By far the most elegant solution compared with the obvious cost-cutting of the 950XL.
    the keys are still visible even if the 1520 is powered off.
    01-28-2016 09:37 PM
  15. Jonnie LasVegas's Avatar
    Don't settle for the 950xl. You'll be disappointed coming from a 1520. 1520 is leaps and bounds better than either the 950 or 950xl.
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    01-28-2016 10:08 PM
  16. arjunan's Avatar
    i feel sad for you.
    01-29-2016 12:02 AM
  17. rockstarzzz's Avatar
    It would be silly to hope for 1520 and not go for 950XL. Even though it may not be nicer looking or like 1520, it surely is more future proof than 1520 is. If you are planning to stick with WP for say another 24-30 months, 950XL hardware is good enough. 1520, is out of date for that sort of time. Accept it with a smile, you will love 950XL. I do.
    01-29-2016 04:20 AM
  18. HoosierDaddy's Avatar
    Sounds like you're stuck.

    I too would much rather have a 1520. I bought 2 950XLs and returned them both and continue to use my 1520.3. If they can't fix your 1520 you might as well take the 950XL and sell it unopened and buy two 1520s; one for the future in case MS never does get their act together and release anything better than the 1520.
    01-29-2016 07:52 AM
  19. Cosmyc's Avatar
    Don't settle for the 950xl. You'll be disappointed coming from a 1520. 1520 is leaps and bounds better than either the 950 or 950xl.
    I disagree, leaps and bounds better than the 950XL? The camera or the display alone are worth the change from my point of view.
    01-29-2016 09:03 AM
  20. alodar101's Avatar
    {Insert standard description here - Long time user...blah blah blah}

    Was on the pre order for the 950 and the XL. So, got both on day 1 of availability. I was OK with the XL. Wife never cared for the 950. From the start she had problems. Sound was horrible, touch screen flaky, audio cutting in and out. We replaced the device, and nothing changed. On the second replacement, returning the device took 6 weeks because of USPS and weather. AT&T charged us full price for a phone that simply does not work. Then our daughter got married and the camera crashed during the ceremony...yes, we had other photo takers...but, this was the last straw. wife turned to me and said...this needs to go away.

    We are both fully invested in MS. O365, both have Surface devices, Onedrive, Groove, XBOX, and all the other offered Services. So my wife got the iPhone 6s. She has not looked back. She uses the MS services and only knows she's not on a Windows Phone when the touch screen never stops working, the camera doesn't crash and the audio plays perfectly every time.

    Now I am not an apple fanboy. I own the xl, the 1520, M8, 920, 900, Venue Pro and at least 1 other Top Line windows phone from every release, ever, by MS. I also own the same with Android phones, having jumped on the initial Nexus and the subsequent NOTE line. I have had a couple of iPhones.

    The bottom line is this, I am tired of fighting it. Every release has something new to punch me in the stomach. I think the xl is cool. but so is the iPhone and the NOTE. I love being able to reach my office, my pic, my toys with SErvices. but I can do that on any phone now. My 2 favorite phones were the Venue Pro and the 1520. But, I can't do this any longer. I will buy the next great windows phone that comes out...if it comes out. But I no longer will be my trust in it blindly. There are too many other options, that just work. Satya has made it possible for me to use all my Microsoft services, on any device. I've taken him up on it. The experience is good...I am not unhappy.
    01-29-2016 09:09 AM
  21. TennisGuy45's Avatar
    For me double-tap to wake IS indeed a very important feature that i will be missing :/
    Also I just found out online, the Super-sensitive Touch is gone in the Lumia 950 and 950XL? Cant use gloves or a pencil with my screen anymore? Unbelievable :/

    This way upgrading from a 1520 feels more like losing features rather than improving. I won't be using Continuum anyway.
    The "super sensitive" touch on my 1520 just pissed me off to no end, I'm glad its not there on my 950xl.

    Even on the least sensitive setting the stupid 1520 touch was too sensitive and would register a "press/tap" when I was trying to scroll.
    01-29-2016 09:11 AM
  22. bemiquel's Avatar
    They have just confirmed that I'm getting the 950XL as a replacement. I hope it's the white one, the black is awful. And I have no money now to buy a Mozo case :(

    It's also nice to see other people agreeing with the fact that coming from a 1520 will make me feel like I'm losing some things. The feeling when holding the phone in the hand, the curved glass, the built quality... and the design :)

    The "super sensitive" touch on my 1520 just pissed me off to no end, I'm glad its not there on my 950xl.

    Even on the least sensitive setting the stupid 1520 touch was too sensitive and would register a "press/tap" when I was trying to scroll.
    That sounds like your 1520 has the ghost-touch hardware issue, it's not related to the Super Sensitive touch technology. My 1020's screen touch was amazing and it never had any ghost touch.
    01-29-2016 01:35 PM
  23. Deanig_12's Avatar
    why complain? i know you used to your own phone but id say "send it Baby"!! :D
    01-29-2016 01:44 PM
  24. rjdesh1's Avatar
    I would take MSFT up on this offer right now if available in the US. I am ready to send in my 1520 (mint) for a new950XL....
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    01-29-2016 01:53 PM
  25. TennisGuy45's Avatar
    They have just confirmed that I'm getting the 950XL as a replacement. I hope it's the white one, the black is awful. And I have no money now to buy a Mozo case :(

    It's also nice to see other people agreeing with the fact that coming from a 1520 will make me feel like I'm losing some things. The feeling when holding the phone in the hand, the curved glass, the built quality... and the design :)



    That sounds like your 1520 has the ghost-touch hardware issue, it's not related to the Super Sensitive touch technology. My 1020's screen touch was amazing and it never had any ghost touch.
    For what it is worth I love my 950xl much more than I did my 1520.

    The battery life is as good or better than my 1520 plus its replaceable. My 1520 battery went bad in less than 1.5 years and from that point on it would die when it reached 50%.
    The 950xl is noticeably faster and smoother with a much much much better screen.

    Two things I miss are:
    Tap to wake
    Visual Voice Mail

    Overall I dont regret my 950xl purchase one bit.
    01-29-2016 03:12 PM
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