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  1. mkKozak's Avatar
    Technology is all set to make a major shift in next 4 or 5 years. The two companies that are ready for that shift are Google and Microsoft.

    There will be new services and devices. And, Apple will be become more irrelevant during that period.

    The efforts of Google and Microsoft will only start to pay off during that period. Google will be big even then, but Microsoft will be a very relevant player in the new market.

    That will also be period where Android and Windows will achieve more on all their devices. However, the only issue on Google devices will be security and Google has started to make their investments already. Same is happening at Microsoft.

    Bookmark and look back at this post after 4 years and you will realise what I said has come true.

    Only Google and Microsoft will be the prominent players in the market after 4 years.

    Posted via the Windows Central App
    I'm glad I'm not the only one seeing this and thinking the same way.
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    02-06-2016 05:13 AM
  2. evildude42's Avatar
    Microsoft or any large company does not "care" about retail stores, sales reps, cs reps, repair guys and defiantly not contractors who are hired to work on or sell their stuff. These are strictly line items in a budget that have no weight in the real world. If deemd that line is not making money for them, or they can make money elsewhere, that line is gone. I've seem it happen many times. Retail ops for something like Microsoft is akin to the tips of the smallest branches on a large oak tree. If they get damaged, no biggie.

    So if your sole skill is being a bad sales guy or girl in a Microsoft store, oh well. At least the CS people can go use the same skill for another phone answering job.

    But to answer if windows ten mobile dies - then i'm out 140 bucks that I spent on a phone. I haven't invested anything else into that particular eco sphere. The few hundred I've spent on older MS phones is a sunk cost and long since depreciated.
    02-06-2016 08:00 AM
  3. Christopher Kendalls's Avatar
    You already know that we're not employees. And, yes, it does matter to us. Why should opinions be any more important, just because someone is in the business of selling, supporting, or developing for Windows Phone. Why is it that consumers opinions are irrelevant?
    theefman likes this.
    02-06-2016 08:39 AM
  4. Mad Cabbie's Avatar
    I picked up my regular fare today, from Heathrow airport, who spends a lot of time at Redmond. Yes, he errrr is involved with one of the inhabitants of said Redmond. I usually get little snippets from him, but this is the second time since Xmas he has been guarded about what's going on, but he does seem to be taking more trips there, and he is 'busy'. Last year he thought his time was up.....go figure. Guessing by his deliberate answers and chatter, things are a foot, and he is quite upbeat. He is heavily involved in surface, so who knows whats coming at us? On top of which, his fare today was covered by a new 1520!! Result.
    02-06-2016 06:05 PM
  5. Gregory Newman's Avatar
    Microsoft Windows smart phones are not dead until MS CEO Nadella and the MS Board say they are. Right now Microsoft is winding down on the number of Windows smart phone models they will sell to the public and Businesses. Microsoft software Engineers are still improving Windows 10 Mobile OS and updates are now coming to those who use it. more Microsoft OEM partners will make Windows 10 mobile smart phones because Windows 10 Desktop OS is on 180 million computers of various types and more are coming. The BEST smart phone to use with Windows 10 computers is the Windows 10 mobile OS smart phones using Universal apps. most Average People and Tech site experts do not realize this but as time goes on People and Businesses will understand this and Windows smart phones sales will pickup
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    02-06-2016 08:15 PM
  6. mayconvert's Avatar
    The reason people are posting negative comments is because many of us really Loved WP OS and wanted a Good 3rd option. But MS being a bunch of idiots didn't understand how to make that happen. Ballmer would have mock funerals claiming the death of Apple, android, and BB which was a complete and total waste of time and money.
    I don't know what the REAL story as to why Microsoft Never got an developers on board.
    I have heard it all. MS wouldn't let them have the APIs they needed and many others. Don't know the truth.

    Ballmer, in addition to having idiotic funerals, started the idiotic 'don't get scroogled' campaign, which, in turn, meant Google refused to make any apps for WP like they did for iPhone. Hell, google released Chrome for iPhone BEFORE they released it on Android phones. Android users weren't happy about that one.

    A phone without google apps is already in trouble. I know MS wanted to make Bing the next big thing.
    That didn't work either. Everyone uses Google. Bing, other than the picture of the day, sucks.
    Basically Microsoft IS the reason WP failed. I do know that under ballmer, it went NO where. The new CEO might even be worse.

    I am pissed and hate it that WP IS DEAD because its a better OS than iOS and Android. Live tiles are awesome.
    Microsoft should have used all that wasted time, effort and money the spent on 'don't get scroogled' ads, funerals, and all the other dumbass crap MS did, and spent that money on PAYING for developers. BUY developers. Bribe Developers. Whatever it takes, but DO SOMETHING.

    People can say there is no apps gap, and they are idiots. You don't need 1.5 BILLION apps, but when a new app comes out, your OS name better be right there beside The App Store and Google Play Store. If not, no one cares if you have half baked copies "that is just as good".
    That's the other major complaint with WP. Most the apps they do have are COMPLETE GARBAGE.
    Half of them are TERRIBLE web wraps or have Never been updated. Hell, even Geico pulled the plug on their app. Probably had 7 downloads total.

    So yes. The negativity is because those of us who went out and bought the LG Quantum day one. Then went and bought the Nokia line are pissed because we paid for phones with the promise of "just wait, soon, it's coming, someday" and it NEVER happened. All thanks to MS being a bunch of brain dead Morons.
    Forgive us if we bash MS. They flipping deserve ALL the negative backlash they are getting.

    Universal apps? STUPID. it will never work. period. No one is going to make an app when you have a full blown web browser. Why would my bank or local TV waste time doing apps, when they have a WEB PAGE. ....
    Xbox is NOT going to help apps either. sorry. I am so pissed at MS. complete fail on WP.
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    02-06-2016 08:46 PM
  7. Varun Rajan's Avatar
    Doom and gloom posts are many and widespread, no denying that

    Here are the facts as I see it:
    1. Windows 10 mobile is released for new phones but under constant development to upgrade older phones
    2. Developing for W10M is still ongoing and will before some time as many news seem to indicate
    3. New 3rd party hardware manufacturers are releasing new handsets with W10M, latest being VAIO
    4. Lumia sales have reduced in the past year or so


    Now kindly answer these questions before replying to this thread. Or at least go through these questions and musings before rattling off another W10M is dead post

    1. Are you a Microsoft employee directly or indirectly working in the mobile division or W10M OS development team? If yes, then your job could be at stake if W10M fails and no units are sold.
    2. Are you a person working directly or indirectly at a Nokia/Microsoft customer care centre? If yes, then if MS mobile fails, you could be out of a job.
    3. Are you a Microsoft salesperson working directly or indirectly with the MS mobile division? If yes, then your job could be on the line in the future if the mobile division is cancelled due to low sales
    4. Are you shareholder of MS shares? If yes and your shares portfolio is strictly MS only, then your future shares value could drop by a tiny margin if W10M dies
    5. Are you MS store employee or indirectly work at a MS store selling MS products? If yes, your livelihood could potentially be at risk if W10M is declared dead and buried
    6. Are you a worker at MS repair centres for Windows mobiles? If yes, then your earnings could reduce in the future due to reduced sales and eventual zero sales of Lumia handsets
    7. Are you a MS app developer who depends entirely or nearly entirely on your app revenue from windows mobile apps? If yes, then your source of revenue might reduce if MS mobile sales plummet to 0


    If however you are none of these, then why should it matter to you that Windows mobile sales have fallen?
    You could be a student or an office worker or an electrician or an architect or a retired army major or anything except those above. So if MS sells 4.5 million phones or 45 million, why should it affect you?

    You have a windows phone already, don't you? It's working, isn't it? Even if it doesn't work any more, you can always get a new one, right? The only time you will need to be worried is if all worldwide sales were cancelled and all windows phone stocks were destroyed and all spare parts were also destroyed. Then and only then will you need to start worrying

    And you know what? My lumia still works. My local customer care centre still exists. The telcom companies still support windows phones. The local mobile stores still sell windows phones.

    So kindly reconsider declaring that windows mobile is dead. It's not. It is plain to see it is not. Just this week we got 10586.71 build and there is a rumour of build 10586.104 next week. The platform is evolving, not dying.

    Take this analogy of the caterpillar. MS has collected a lot of information on how to get the mobile right. It's digesting and changing. Right now it is in the pupal stage. Do we know what is inside? We kind of do because of insider program. Do we know the final form? No, we can't know now. The butterfly has yet to fully develop and sprout the wings.

    Let the butterfly develop and grow. Shouting at it while it is developing in the chrysalis that it is dead or dying does not help.

    So be patient, be observant and thank you

    The same reason that it matters to you that other people considers wp dead and you decided to make a post on it. Well why does it matter to you?
    mjrtoo and theefman like this.
    02-06-2016 09:41 PM
  8. mjrtoo's Avatar
    So says who has 25 posts. Have you been using wp10 only? That explains a lot, you've haven't seen the gradual destruction over the gruelling 5 years of overpromise under deliver.

    Doom and gloom posts are many and widespread, no denying that

    Here are the facts as I see it:
    1. Windows 10 mobile is released for new phones but under constant development to upgrade older phones
    2. Developing for W10M is still ongoing and will before some time as many news seem to indicate
    3. New 3rd party hardware manufacturers are releasing new handsets with W10M, latest being VAIO
    4. Lumia sales have reduced in the past year or so


    Now kindly answer these questions before replying to this thread. Or at least go through these questions and musings before rattling off another W10M is dead post

    1. Are you a Microsoft employee directly or indirectly working in the mobile division or W10M OS development team? If yes, then your job could be at stake if W10M fails and no units are sold.
    2. Are you a person working directly or indirectly at a Nokia/Microsoft customer care centre? If yes, then if MS mobile fails, you could be out of a job.
    3. Are you a Microsoft salesperson working directly or indirectly with the MS mobile division? If yes, then your job could be on the line in the future if the mobile division is cancelled due to low sales
    4. Are you shareholder of MS shares? If yes and your shares portfolio is strictly MS only, then your future shares value could drop by a tiny margin if W10M dies
    5. Are you MS store employee or indirectly work at a MS store selling MS products? If yes, your livelihood could potentially be at risk if W10M is declared dead and buried
    6. Are you a worker at MS repair centres for Windows mobiles? If yes, then your earnings could reduce in the future due to reduced sales and eventual zero sales of Lumia handsets
    7. Are you a MS app developer who depends entirely or nearly entirely on your app revenue from windows mobile apps? If yes, then your source of revenue might reduce if MS mobile sales plummet to 0


    If however you are none of these, then why should it matter to you that Windows mobile sales have fallen?
    You could be a student or an office worker or an electrician or an architect or a retired army major or anything except those above. So if MS sells 4.5 million phones or 45 million, why should it affect you?

    You have a windows phone already, don't you? It's working, isn't it? Even if it doesn't work any more, you can always get a new one, right? The only time you will need to be worried is if all worldwide sales were cancelled and all windows phone stocks were destroyed and all spare parts were also destroyed. Then and only then will you need to start worrying

    And you know what? My lumia still works. My local customer care centre still exists. The telcom companies still support windows phones. The local mobile stores still sell windows phones.

    So kindly reconsider declaring that windows mobile is dead. It's not. It is plain to see it is not. Just this week we got 10586.71 build and there is a rumour of build 10586.104 next week. The platform is evolving, not dying.

    Take this analogy of the caterpillar. MS has collected a lot of information on how to get the mobile right. It's digesting and changing. Right now it is in the pupal stage. Do we know what is inside? We kind of do because of insider program. Do we know the final form? No, we can't know now. The butterfly has yet to fully develop and sprout the wings.

    Let the butterfly develop and grow. Shouting at it while it is developing in the chrysalis that it is dead or dying does not help.

    So be patient, be observant and thank you
    02-06-2016 09:53 PM
  9. saldanacarlo's Avatar
    it makes a difference to me because I see windows 10 mobile(W10M) is as feature rich and more cohesive OS than android and I see that W10M is more open than ios. W10M strikes these balances and many others that make me a true believer in Microsoft. Also I have been using Windows computers since forever and isn't windows the most used OS in the world? under this premise, I appreciate the unification of their app development process. Now is the time for manufactures to make some great hardware and flaunt it with the best OS on the market, W10M. Microsofts prosperity is through software, and great software like an entirely unique, feature rich and stable mobile OS could never be abandoned , it is in the transition phase for manufactures to start putting it on their hardware to sell. Will it take a hot powerful set of intel hardware to make windows phone shine? NO. All the apps that everyone knows on android? that would help, but apple did it with their computer line and held out until they became the success they are today by crossing those gaps from windows and Linux and windows mobile is on that same path. Microsoft will continue to produce a strong product, and in time as the weakness of the other platforms become more apparent W10M will become the apparent choice and the tide will shift. Microsoft wont drop W10M and I wont believe W10M is dead until Microsoft is dead. I believe what I see from their history.
    editguy likes this.
    02-06-2016 09:54 PM
  10. marksasongko's Avatar
    I don't fit any description in your question, however, I don't want to see WM10 discontinued. It's scary to see only two viable options for a phone, android and ios. I am now using BB10 for work and its life is also questionable. If BB10 and WM10 are no longer developed and supported, then I'd have to resort to IOS or Android for work and that is unfortunate due to a number of reasons.
    02-06-2016 10:28 PM
  11. mullern's Avatar
    Because I FINALLY would like to see and experience an Ecosystem which is transparent through all platforms - PC, Tablet, Mobile - and hopefully in the future also int the Internet of Things IoT.
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    02-07-2016 02:06 AM
  12. Steve Thackery's Avatar
    I see windows 10 mobile(W10M) is as feature rich and more cohesive OS than android
    As feature rich as Android? I don't think so. The API is less extensive and the UI is simpler (though that is a good thing, in my view).
    02-07-2016 04:11 AM
  13. direktorn's Avatar
    Chintan could also working for MS or any the above reasons listed in the post.
    I'm certainly not an employee by Microsoft.

    To start with I loved my iPhone, bought the 3G, the 4, the 4s. But then something happened. For every new release the new functionality slowed down, the os looked the same (no, flat icons and ui is not a major upgrade). And I felt the same with the desktop OS (I have owned two MacPro's so I have spent some $$ on Apple)

    At the time I looked at Nokia Lumia 910 who had a great camera, NFC, Wireless Charging and that came with an os that felt "fresh" so that has been my main device until about 4 months ago when I broke my screen. Having a device for 3 years is not my style (maybe I'm getting old..) but I loved that phone. I loved it so much that I bought the 930 (about a year old and almost impossible to grab at an retailer) - (In the between I owned a Palm Pre and I loved WebOS, had multitasking that actually worked)

    For my PC experience Windows 10 has been a joy from the first beta release, the OS has evolved with every build, new feature, fixing inconsistency in the UI. However WP 10 has been a disaster from the beginning.

    For some reason beyond my knowledge I installed WP10 on my Lumia 910, what a huge mistake. I have never seen an OS that unpolished and slow (Ok I can understand that as Mobile OS never runs on hardware as old as PCs do) - So a factory reset to WP8 was needed...

    Here I should really leave right? Jump on the Android wagon? Or iOS? No, its not for me, I love Windows Mobile.. So I got myself a Lumia 950, free DisplayDock and everything.. MS would never release an device with an faulty os?

    Now it's getting interested, and where my point goes. Microsoft loves developers, they have a lot.. The only reason I can think of why the mobile Windows 10 never get's done is development effort. Sure assigning equal amount of development hours on an OS that has one digit market share towards one that has 50-70% is not worth it, but MS has been here before.

    For MS its hard to steer their huge oil tanker into another direction, they have partners, resellers, developers who invest in their ecosystem and that's ALL to ms. Apple does not work that way.
    But here MS need to show commitment to the eco-system, and currently it sort of shows in marketing terms, but not in actual improvements. And that's the part I'm caring about

    How can I stand behind a platform that is crap, buggy, with no support from developers:
    - Instagram, one of the worlds most used services has still not released a real app, just the same beta
    - LinkedIn, worlds biggest social network for business (a market MS should be interested in) - has an app that does not work with WP10 (Can't sync contacts)
    - Facebook, the worlds biggest service, all categories has an app that is so buggy I've stopped using it.
    - Missing basic functionality that the others have had for ages.

    I really hope that MS will get their universal apps working so that developers can code with less ad that developers who build apps for, lets say the Surface will go the extra mile and compile it for WP10. If not the os is dead.
    xandros9 likes this.
    02-07-2016 08:04 AM
  14. fatclue_98's Avatar
    ^^You make some valid points but your LinkedIn bullet is way off. LI contacts have been syncing with Outlook since WP7. If you click on your MS account in settings you'll see LI already there. When you sync, they both go grey.
    Sent from my Lumia 2520 on Tapatalk
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    02-07-2016 10:41 AM
  15. dimatador's Avatar
    The OS may not be dead but it sure is headed that way..... MS just don't care,they keep putting phones out there that are sub-part to what every other phone company is doing. This is north America we like top-notch not sub-part for that,we can go to Asia and just buy them cheap phonest by the bunches. They buy Nokia, instead of building on it they just finish running it to the ground. Build top-notch devices that we want not **** that makes the look OS bad!!
    02-07-2016 12:46 PM
  16. fatclue_98's Avatar
    The OS may not be dead but it sure is headed that way..... MS just don't care,they keep putting phones out there that are sub-part to what every other phone company is doing. This is north America we like top-notch not sub-part for that,we can go to Asia and just buy them cheap phonest by the bunches. They buy Nokia, instead of building on it they just finish running it to the ground. Build top-notch devices that we want not **** that makes the look OS bad!!
    North America is not Microsoft's only market. There is a whole world outside the US.
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    02-07-2016 12:50 PM
  17. Saijin_Naib's Avatar
    North America is not Microsoft's only market. There is a whole world outside the US.
    A world that almost without argument, is a far more profitable and growing market than the USA, which by most metrics, is completely saturated/stagnant for mobile sales.

    Race to the bottom is the way to build install/userbase for mobile.
    Chintan Gohel likes this.
    02-07-2016 01:00 PM
  18. Bondte's Avatar
    Of course WM isn't dead and won't be as long as they don't pull the plug and then even so ...

    What they do need to take in consideration is that they are limping behind, and every day more. However you look at things an OS is measured by qty of users and popularity. Even though the OS is still, and will remain, in development the fan base is shrinking. The same happened to BB, although you cannot compare both companies. When BB10 kicked in, the ship had sailed already, good OS or not.

    On a personal note. I like the WM a lot but ... My 1320 has nearly had it after 2 years, I am on the insider program and at the moment I will not look at getting another WM phone. Not until it's more stable and they have managed to do something about the apps. Personally I give **** about camera etc but these days you can buy a lenovo, polaroid, etc with nearly the same specs as an S6 or iCr** for 200 - 300 dollars. Why should I spend double or more for a buggy OS in development?

    And this is where the real danger lies according to me. The majority of the clients want a phone that looks good, is affordable and, most important, functional at all times.

    Me too am looking forward to an eventual surface phone, but when might it arrive? Min. 6+ months. By then I am on another OS, got used to that OS and not necessarily in need of another change of OS. They advance too you know.

    I hope MS can put it together. But keeping an eye from distance I see a lot of similarities to BB's evolution ...
    02-07-2016 01:02 PM
  19. kimigayo's Avatar
    Windows 10 while promising and good, is an unstable mess. When I have to constantly fight with my phone, whether it's the podcast app shutting down or not responding, or one drive not syncing at all, or the windows store putting all my downloads into pending and then doing nothing, or Edge not displaying something when I need it, it's really at the point of being counterproductive. My love for the OS and the compliments I get because people are shocked to see something come out of a pocket other than an iPhone or Galaxy is nice and I want to love my 930, but the frustration really makes me and many others want to switch, no matter how loyal we are.
    Nick Metro likes this.
    02-07-2016 01:17 PM
  20. Mad Cabbie's Avatar
    Windows 10 while promising and good, is an unstable mess. When I have to constantly fight with my phone, whether it's the podcast app shutting down or not responding, or one drive not syncing at all, or the windows store putting all my downloads into pending and then doing nothing, or Edge not displaying something when I need it, it's really at the point of being counterproductive. My love for the OS and the compliments I get because people are shocked to see something come out of a pocket other than an iPhone or Galaxy is nice and I want to love my 930, but the frustration really makes me and many others want to switch, no matter how loyal we are.
    It's a preview, and in the t's & c's it states that it may be unstable etc..... And you are agreeing to it by signing up. I can't understand why people keep banging on about it. It is not a release. If you'd have paid for a 950, then at least you would have a valid complaint as it came with it. Why not drop back, like I have on my 930, to 8.1 instead of getting frustrated. There were too many niggling issues on .71, particularly on the 930 for some reason. I have had none of the issues you have had, on my 930. My issues resolve around the clock, Cortana, and non updating of live tiles. Everything just worked. Yes its frustrating but that is the world of beta testing..
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    02-07-2016 01:31 PM
  21. Migi2015's Avatar
    It has not further relevance to me like it did from 2010-2013. I've moved on to the real mobile platforms - iOS & Android. Maybe MS can make a future play with AR/VR, "smartcars" and machine-learning. But so far they have yet to come out with anything that has sparked the public desire.
    xandros9 likes this.
    02-07-2016 01:55 PM
  22. Shan Ali Khan's Avatar
    well i will go for IOS or Android and keep MS all apps. if i have a change to change my current Lumia 535. Poor Touch and buggy and Slow Development OS
    xandros9 likes this.
    02-07-2016 02:24 PM
  23. ReprobusR's Avatar
    I've decided even though Windows Phone is more or less dead just like Black Berry is dead but I know many who won't admit to it. I will continue to use Windows Phone for a number of years to come. I will probably upgrade to the 950XL in the future, if Microsoft should cut the cord sooner then I anticipate then I'll switch to Samsung, never will I switch to Apple.

    Then again, I'll be staying with Windows Phone for quite a long time as my only brand of Smart Phones. Two reasons why, I truly like Windows Phone tiles etc over Android. Security is second best after BlackBerry compared to Samsung and especially Apple. Finally Windows Phone OS, is rock solid, I use like many Windows Phone 8.1 and I have no complaints, there are many great games on the platform, web browsing is good with IE and everything works well.
    02-07-2016 09:26 PM
  24. mariusmuntean's Avatar
    The reason people are posting negative comments is because many of us really Loved WP OS and wanted a Good 3rd option. But MS being a bunch of idiots didn't understand how to make that happen. Ballmer would have mock funerals claiming the death of Apple, android, and BB which was a complete and total waste of time and money.
    I don't know what the REAL story as to why Microsoft Never got an developers on board.
    I have heard it all. MS wouldn't let them have the APIs they needed and many others. Don't know the truth.

    Ballmer, in addition to having idiotic funerals, started the idiotic 'don't get scroogled' campaign, which, in turn, meant Google refused to make any apps for WP like they did for iPhone. Hell, google released Chrome for iPhone BEFORE they released it on Android phones. Android users weren't happy about that one.

    A phone without google apps is already in trouble. I know MS wanted to make Bing the next big thing.
    That didn't work either. Everyone uses Google. Bing, other than the picture of the day, sucks.
    Basically Microsoft IS the reason WP failed. I do know that under ballmer, it went NO where. The new CEO might even be worse.

    I am pissed and hate it that WP IS DEAD because its a better OS than iOS and Android. Live tiles are awesome.
    Microsoft should have used all that wasted time, effort and money the spent on 'don't get scroogled' ads, funerals, and all the other dumbass crap MS did, and spent that money on PAYING for developers. BUY developers. Bribe Developers. Whatever it takes, but DO SOMETHING.

    People can say there is no apps gap, and they are idiots. You don't need 1.5 BILLION apps, but when a new app comes out, your OS name better be right there beside The App Store and Google Play Store. If not, no one cares if you have half baked copies "that is just as good".
    That's the other major complaint with WP. Most the apps they do have are COMPLETE GARBAGE.
    Half of them are TERRIBLE web wraps or have Never been updated. Hell, even Geico pulled the plug on their app. Probably had 7 downloads total.

    So yes. The negativity is because those of us who went out and bought the LG Quantum day one. Then went and bought the Nokia line are pissed because we paid for phones with the promise of "just wait, soon, it's coming, someday" and it NEVER happened. All thanks to MS being a bunch of brain dead Morons.
    Forgive us if we bash MS. They flipping deserve ALL the negative backlash they are getting.

    Universal apps? STUPID. it will never work. period. No one is going to make an app when you have a full blown web browser. Why would my bank or local TV waste time doing apps, when they have a WEB PAGE. ....
    Xbox is NOT going to help apps either. sorry. I am so pissed at MS. complete fail on WP.
    Yes, if you look into the past, Ballmer did many mistakes. Starting from the laughter on the iphone and continuing with the "don't get scroogled campaign", after which he came with a half baked good for nothing WP7 platform that was lacking even the most basic phone functions. When they have realized that it was a total joke, WP8 came out with all the fuss and all WP7 users were left with an unsupported platform (be serious, the 7.8 update was a total failure, a complete joke, it brought more problems than the platform already had). Then WP8.1 which took away some unique and good stuff from 8.0. Than Nadella made sure that W10M will be a total crap by laying off good engineers is his obsession for cost cutting. It's been 5 years and more since MS started with WP7 and where are they now? They are not capable of delivering a good, stable mobile OS, seems like it's a never ending beta testing for them on the back of users. MS has lost it's respect for customers and delivers half baked products while calling them ready for public use, they are selling new phones with a broken OS and new surface devices with severe issues...and I thought Apple was greedy and money hungry by selling outdated tech at high prices...well at least their products work.
    Windows 10 is the most disappointing product of MS so far, from my perspective. Even the desktop version still has some issues and I would not trust my data to it. As for the mobile version, it's a complete disgrace to the tech world.
    02-08-2016 12:22 AM
  25. levy shikukui's Avatar
    It may sound funny and frustrating to say windows mobile is dead ,lets go back to the reason why Nokia was sold to Microsoft,lack of apps for lumia phones which used to run windows OS which is being owned by Microsoft,this lead to drop in sales.Now Microsoft having the hardware and Software at hand, it should be A mater of time giving guys like the one heading mobile division and surface division challenge to perfect windows 10 and star manufacturing more device from low,mid and high-end phones like our competitor Samsung among others,if is to go surface way let it happen as soon as possible,people are now tired of waiting for devices for months and years,this will bring back lumia nor surface phones in the top place.
    02-08-2016 03:12 AM
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