03-13-2016 05:13 AM
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  1. GMC262's Avatar
    "I got my little bro the hd LTE. They are actually cute phones and I think the design is better than HTC. That said I wish blu would release it's other android phones as windows phones tbh."

    But earlier you said;

    "That's just what happens when OEMs are lazy and release android rehashes :)"
    03-09-2016 03:31 PM
  2. dlalonde's Avatar
    I could put Gmail but it's the Outlook Mail App that's missing the feature not outlook.com. You could do it in Windows Phone 8.1 but the new app doesn't do it anymore nor does it on desktop which is a shame.

    The thing that bugs me about the BLU is that it's already 1 year old and there's been no new phone announced. So going back into the Windows Mobile world would have to happen eventually but not right now I think.
    03-09-2016 03:32 PM
  3. GMC262's Avatar
    Gotta hope.

    'HTC 10 - with Windows 10' is a marketing gift and is too coincidental to waste.
    Agreed. But the physical buttons on the images leaked thus far would seem to indicate this will be android only. Then again, they are just leaks until the phone is officially announced.
    03-09-2016 03:50 PM
  4. Nick Metro's Avatar
    Loved my HTC M8
    03-09-2016 04:13 PM
  5. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    "I got my little bro the hd LTE. They are actually cute phones and I think the design is better than HTC. That said I wish blu would release it's other android phones as windows phones tbh."

    But earlier you said;

    "That's just what happens when OEMs are lazy and release android rehashes :)"
    And I still stand by it. These android OEMs are lazy and what not and blu doing the same thing, they would be lazy as well. That being sais I do like blu android design so of we have to get lazy rehashes then maybe they should bring those :)

    Personally I prefer uniquely windows phone designs. Hence why Nokia/microsoft phones are my preferred brand. It's annoying when people mistook my m8 when I briefly had it as android. Thankfully I wised up and got rid of it.
    03-09-2016 04:18 PM
  6. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    I could put Gmail but it's the Outlook Mail App that's missing the feature not outlook.com. You could do it in Windows Phone 8.1 but the new app doesn't do it anymore nor does it on desktop which is a shame.

    The thing that bugs me about the BLU is that it's already 1 year old and there's been no new phone announced. So going back into the Windows Mobile world would have to happen eventually but not right now I think.
    Oh I see. I use outlook mail because I choose to not support google which makes my choice of phone difficult. :)

    But that sucks you have no way to do that. Aren't there any mail apps on the store that can work work work Gmail?
    03-09-2016 04:19 PM
  7. Cruachan 11's Avatar
    I very much like the look of the VAIO Phone Biz, shame that it's (for the moment at least) Japan only.
    03-09-2016 04:35 PM
  8. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    I very much like the look of the VAIO Phone Biz, shame that it's (for the moment at least) Japan only.
    It does look nice. It looks reminiscent of a mix of HTC 8x with the Lumia 1520 from the back side and even HTC radar
    03-09-2016 04:52 PM
  9. dlalonde's Avatar
    Oh I see. I use outlook mail because I choose to not support google which makes my choice of phone difficult. :)

    But that sucks you have no way to do that. Aren't there any mail apps on the store that can work work work Gmail?
    But see that's the thing, if I go back on Windows Phone I want to use MS products not Gmail :P

    If the apps supported it, I would move to outlook and use the app on my PC and on my Android phone and eventually on my Windows Phone.
    03-09-2016 04:54 PM
  10. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    But see that's the thing, if I go back on Windows Phone I want to use MS products not Gmail :P

    If the apps supported it, I would move to outlook and use the app on my PC and on my Android phone and eventually on my Windows Phone.
    Can't you forward the Gmail to your outlook address?
    03-09-2016 04:58 PM
  11. dlalonde's Avatar
    Ha ha, I think I'm not clear :P

    See here's the problem: in my Gmail I use @gmail.com but also @domain.com, @otherdomain.com and @lastdomain.com (yeah I have like 5-6 email addresses). Except for my Gmail, all the other are professionnal email addresses and I use Gmail as my email client. I used to do that with outlook.com too.

    So say a client sends an email to @domain.com. I get it in my Gmail and when I hit reply, it sends the email from @domain.com not @gmail.com.

    Using the outlook app on Windows 10 Mobile or PC, when I hit reply, it sends from @gmail.com. But I don't want my clients to have my @gmail.com address. But with the Windows 10 Mobile or PC apps, that's no longer possible but it was possible before on Windows Phone 8.1.
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    03-09-2016 05:05 PM
  12. Tien-Lin Chang's Avatar
    The only improvement the m8 had was an 801 processor which is largely irrelevant as it more or less performed sometimes better and sometimes worse or sometimes just as good as the Lumia 1520/icon/930.

    We really should stop this myth that the m8 was a top specced phone when it wasn't much different from a Lumia.

    Also on the picture quality if we have to say things like "the camera is okay for everyday use or for social network as long as you don't crop or zoom" then that is not a good camera. I know HTC has its fans but we really need to stop downplaying it's shortcomings and overhyping its pros.
    The OP had said that he don't like his current Lumia choice and looking for the best non-lumia device, it's pointless to bias bashing some non-lumia device with lumia device. All points you have against HTC W8 (besides pixel number) are all well suited to Alcatel, BLU....whatever OEM. But the fact is MSFT are releasing those exclusive apps to all windows phone and after w10m upgrade MSFT will taking cared of the further support so after w10m the OEM phone should be no different in terms of software experience compared to lumia devices and it's a coming future.

    So back to the topic, the best non-lumia phone available now will be either HTC W8 or NuAns NEO from japan. The HTC has better FHD screen and NuAns NEO has default W10M loaded and continuum support. However the band support of NuAns NEO might be a problem and OP can check here Spec | NuAns see if it fits your local telecom system.

    As for BLU, besides for it's poor hardware SPEC, HTC clone looking.
    BLU Win HD LTE Review: a solid and affordable Windows Phone smartphone - Mobile Geeks
    BLU Win HD LTE Review: Bold, high definition, and now LTE | Pocketnow
    BLU Win HD LTE review: A gorgeous Windows Phone device at a decent price
    BLU Win HD (Unlocked) Review & Rating | PCMag.com
    Four reviews mentioned the subpar camera performance in common. I'm not sure what's the point to crop and zoom into some poor source image even it got higher pixel counts? Just a simple tip, you only need 2mp to achieve point-to-point display in FHD screen. Under this condition, 4mp camera makes loseless zoom to 140% while 8mp make it to 200%, that's the only difference. So in real life, one or two steps forward will compensate the pixel number difference while I'm not sure how to compensate the image quality difference.
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    03-09-2016 07:50 PM
  13. dlalonde's Avatar
    The OP had said that he don't like his current Lumia choice and looking for the best non-lumia device, it's pointless to bias bashing some non-lumia device with lumia device. All points you have against HTC W8 (besides pixel number) are all well suited to Alcatel, BLU....whatever OEM. But the fact is MSFT are releasing those exclusive apps to all windows phone and after w10m upgrade MSFT will taking cared of the further support so after w10m the OEM phone should be no different in terms of software experience compared to lumia devices and it's a coming future.

    So back to the topic, the best non-lumia phone available now will be either HTC W8 or NuAns NEO from japan. The HTC has better FHD screen and NuAns NEO has default W10M loaded and continuum support. However the band support of NuAns NEO might be a problem and OP can check here Spec | NuAns see if it fits your local telecom system.

    As for BLU, besides for it's poor hardware SPEC, HTC clone looking.
    BLU Win HD LTE Review: a solid and affordable Windows Phone smartphone - Mobile Geeks
    BLU Win HD LTE Review: Bold, high definition, and now LTE | Pocketnow
    BLU Win HD LTE review: A gorgeous Windows Phone device at a decent price
    BLU Win HD (Unlocked) Review & Rating | PCMag.com
    Four reviews mentioned the subpar camera performance in common. I'm not sure what's the point to crop and zoom into some poor source image even it got higher pixel counts? Just a simple tip, you only need 2mp to achieve point-to-point display in FHD screen. Under this condition, 4mp camera makes loseless zoom to 140% while 8mp make it to 200%, that's the only difference. So in real life, one or two steps forward will compensate the pixel number difference while I'm not sure how to compensate the image quality difference.
    Wow that's an in depth answer! Thanks I'll look at those links! :)
    03-09-2016 08:19 PM
  14. RJ Priest's Avatar
    The ATIV S is a near perfect Windows Phone 8 device as long as you don't value the camera as a primary feature. The camera isn't bad, but the Lumia 920's camera was significantly better.

    All around, I loved my ATIV S (from Bell in Canada in 2013) even though I really wanted a Lumia 920 (but it was exclusive to Rogers), but I was fortunate to find a Lumia 1520 in Toronto on Kijiji last summer. I absolutely love my Lumia 1520.

    If you are looking for an all around excellent used Windows Phone in Canada and you don't care that much about photography, the ATIV S is an excellent device. Easily replaceable battery too, which can help to give the phone new life.
    03-09-2016 09:34 PM
  15. gordonfink's Avatar
    The HTC One M8 is a pretty significant upgrade from a Blu Win HD. I've used both - the HTC has no resuming screens or such.

    Something you haven't said is your budget. The Blu is cheaper than the HTC.

    For gmail, you can use the outlook app. I have about 8 accounts in my outlook app - one is an exchange, one is a gmail, and the rest are Hotmail or live.com. The gmail account updates the calendar app on my phone, and everything is seamless.
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    03-09-2016 09:42 PM
  16. Tien-Lin Chang's Avatar
    The OP had mentioned his budget around 400$ (not sure it's USD or C$). I just checked ebay and new, unlocked HTC W8 is around 200~250USD - which sit comfortably inside OP's shooting range.

    --
    I do agree ATIV S was a good phone - I also have one testing the newest w10m now. However it already shown it's age....the SoC and I/O performance is not seamlessly fast anymore. Plus the ATIV S was EOL long ago, there's almost impossible to get a new set and quite a chance there will be no future support - you are on your own (hack the way to get preview build) and Samsung seems not caring much.

    However Samsung did leave a good base of this phone's camera - It reads out the most accurate (compared to me DSLR) auto exposure value through light meter app than my iPhone 6 plus (what an amazing result!) and the old 8mp camera kills the new 13mp camera from infocus M535.
    03-09-2016 11:19 PM
  17. Ariel Takom's Avatar
    Yeah I'm not about to buy it anyway, not before Microsoft adds the ability to write and reply with another email than our outlook.com email on their mail client. I put all my personnal and pro emails in my email service (currently Gmail) and if I'm to move to MS I want to have that functionnality so I can answer clients from my phone. I'll see what's coming in the next few months but the BLU Win HD is pretty interesting.
    Urm, that functionality is already there bro. I've synced two of my e-mails on my phone, sending and receiving emails as the email service themselves and not as outlook.

    The two e-mails I use are Gmail based. My main personal email is of course, a regular Gmail account, and my university e-mail is based off of Gmail service. I've sent and receive emails using both just fine. In fact, this functionality had existed back in WP8.1.

    Also, you can add your company's own email service to your phone. I'm not sure how to set that up though since I've yet to use one, but from what I heard from other users, you need only to know the server of your company's email services, or so they say. Again, I'm no expert in that, so yeah.
    03-10-2016 09:44 AM
  18. dlalonde's Avatar
    Urm, that functionality is already there bro. I've synced two of my e-mails on my phone, sending and receiving emails as the email service themselves and not as outlook.

    The two e-mails I use are Gmail based. My main personal email is of course, a regular Gmail account, and my university e-mail is based off of Gmail service. I've sent and receive emails using both just fine. In fact, this functionality had existed back in WP8.1.

    Also, you can add your company's own email service to your phone. I'm not sure how to set that up though since I've yet to use one, but from what I heard from other users, you need only to know the server of your company's email services, or so they say. Again, I'm no expert in that, so yeah.
    I don't think you understand what I mean. I want to be able to add my accounts to my outlook.com account and for those to be synced with the Outlook app so that I only add one email address, which would be my outlook.com address, and have access to sending from all the email addresses that are linked in my outlook.com account. That function was indeed there on Windows Phone 8.1 but was removed on the new version of the Outlook app on Windows 10 Mobile and PC. I've checked a couple of days ago on my PC and there a plethora of people asking for this feature on the Web.
    03-10-2016 11:36 AM
  19. jdballard's Avatar
    That's just what happens when OEMs are lazy and release android rehashes :)
    The two statements aren't contradictory. Just actually proof that the statement is true. And a rehash isn't always a bad thing - just depends on the hardware.

    Just once I'd love to see a phone (with new, elegant hardware) released on Android and Windows mobile at the same time. Sure 1% would get the windows version, but it'd still be nice.
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    03-10-2016 01:27 PM
  20. bucfan11's Avatar
    Not sure what you're looking for in a phone. Me, I was looking for a larger screen and felt like the Moly X1 was a better value than the 640 XL. I've had my X1 a couple of months now and have been extremely pleased. Plus it comes with Windows 10. Check out the reviews of it on this forum.
    03-10-2016 06:51 PM
  21. Danger_bearD's Avatar
    Surely the Xiaomi Mi4 is the best Windows Phone on the market right now. (Yes you can flash it from MiUi to WP)
    03-11-2016 03:10 AM
  22. dlalonde's Avatar
    Not sure what you're looking for in a phone. Me, I was looking for a larger screen and felt like the Moly X1 was a better value than the 640 XL. I've had my X1 a couple of months now and have been extremely pleased. Plus it comes with Windows 10. Check out the reviews of it on this forum.
    I didn't know that one! I'll look into it! Thanks :)

    Surely the Xiaomi Mi4 is the best Windows Phone on the market right now. (Yes you can flash it from MiUi to WP)
    How do you Flash WP on an Android device?
    03-11-2016 09:34 AM
  23. Ariel Takom's Avatar
    I don't think you understand what I mean. I want to be able to add my accounts to my outlook.com account and for those to be synced with the Outlook app so that I only add one email address, which would be my outlook.com address, and have access to sending from all the email addresses that are linked in my outlook.com account. That function was indeed there on Windows Phone 8.1 but was removed on the new version of the Outlook app on Windows 10 Mobile and PC. I've checked a couple of days ago on my PC and there a plethora of people asking for this feature on the Web.
    Ah I see. That function is not there yet, I suppose. But isn't having your different email accounts linked to one outlook account the same as setting up your different emails on your phone, then view all of it in one inbox (linked-inboxes, a new feature for Outlook on mobile, though I hardly use it)?

    And sorry for asking out of topic questions. Just curious about other user's opinion :)
    03-11-2016 09:52 AM
  24. dlalonde's Avatar
    Ah I see. That function is not there yet, I suppose. But isn't having your different email accounts linked to one outlook account the same as setting up your different emails on your phone, then view all of it in one inbox (linked-inboxes, a new feature for Outlook on mobile, though I hardly use it)?

    And sorry for asking out of topic questions. Just curious about other user's opinion :)
    Oh no problem :)

    It's the same on the phone but not quite. For example, sending an email will save it in the Sent folder of the email account and not my outlook.com account so follow-ups will be a bit harder to do. Maybe though I could just get used to using the apps. But I prefer the way things are. See that's the thing with WM, the things that dre away, twice, is the amount of compromise one has to make to use the platform. I want as little compromise to do as possible.
    03-11-2016 10:09 AM
  25. dlalonde's Avatar
    Oh I think I might get lucky! The 650 is coming to Canada! Buy Microsoft Lumia 650 Dual SIM Review - Microsoft Store Online
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    03-11-2016 10:54 AM
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