08-03-2017 05:35 PM
246 ... 34567 ...
tools
  1. Ixolite's Avatar
    App WILL be obsolete. There's no question about that. I'm a web programmer and the way things are going, apps are going to be useless soon enough. Until then it's an important factor to a lot of people. But Web Apps are becoming so powerful that it will definitely happen. For a lot of apps currently on the market, the only advantage to having a proper app is push notifications and even that is coming (go to Facebook or the Web version of Skype on Chrome, it's already happening there). Companies are working for apps to become useless. Imaging the advantages! Just one product to maintain versus 3-4, one place for stats and all their other telemetrics. It's the way of the future. It's just not coming fast enough.
    Apps that are just a front for a web-service - probably. Then again, there are advantages to have native apps even for those services - like reduced data transfer or tighter integration with the system and hardware or offline modes.

    Also, running and OS (browser) inside of an OS (actual OS) to use an app brings another layer of complexity, that is not always beneficial.

    And of course, there are still apps that do not need internet for anything and it would make no sense to have them web only.
    Chintan Gohel likes this.
    03-17-2016 11:00 AM
  2. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    But everyone has different app needs. Just as you feel it's unfair for people to say "I have the apps I need," it's also unfair for people to steer people away from WP because of a particular app they want. It's just like people who keep trying to keep others away from Windows 8. The first thing you have to do is find out what a person's needs are. There will always be some app or another that's missing or not the same from another platform. It's not fair to just make the blanket statement "Windows Phone doesn't have any apps." WP has a lot of apps, and more are being added every day. It's up to an individual to see if it's missing some "must have" app
    I was never saying that there was something wrong with being happy with what a person has. But this thread topic is not about someone being happy it's about thoughts on why people don't come to WM. I've seen the statement on other threads which in which it is totally irrelevant to the thread topic. Like this thread for example.

    Thing is people feel the need to express this on threads all the time. Doesn't add anything to the discussion. Doesn't provide any insight. Does nothing for the person who started the OP.

    That was the point of my post. If you took the time read the rest of the thread you may have realised that.

    You'd also realise that, had you read this thread, I've also said pretty much what you have just said. Everyone is different. Everyone has different needs. This is true.
    03-17-2016 11:00 AM
  3. elitewolverine21's Avatar
    I was never saying that there was something wrong with being happy with what a person has. But this thread topic is not about someone being happy it's about thoughts on why people don't come to WM. I've seen the statement on other threads which in which it is totally irrelevant to the thread topic. Like this thread for example.

    Thing is people feel the need to express this on threads all the time. Doesn't add anything to the discussion. Doesn't provide any insight. Does nothing for the person who started the OP.

    That was the point of my post. If you took the time read the rest of the thread you may have realised that.

    You'd also realise that, had you read this thread, I've also said pretty much what you have just said. Everyone is different. Everyone has different needs. This is true.
    The biggest thing I see, as working in the cell industry, is that the sales people simply don't push it. Plus its hard tocompete whenthere is no tantalizing offers...we offer a buy one get one free S7/Edge...

    Plus pushing their own wants on others. I would say half the people walking into my store can get by with a WP, without a single glitch. But no one pushes it but me.
    03-17-2016 11:27 AM
  4. Mr Hyde's Avatar
    But everyone has different app needs. Just as you feel it's unfair for people to say "I have the apps I need," it's also unfair for people to steer people away from WP because of a particular app they want. It's just like people who keep trying to keep others away from Windows 8. The first thing you have to do is find out what a person's needs are. There will always be some app or another that's missing or not the same from another platform. It's not fair to just make the blanket statement "Windows Phone doesn't have any apps." WP has a lot of apps, and more are being added every day. It's up to an individual to see if it's missing some "must have" app
    Whenever I give anyone advice on buying any computer or phone I always tell them to first consider what programs or aps they plan to use before they buy any hardware. I think this is just so obvious. What good is any piece of hardware if it wont run the software you want or need. What makes Windows the #1 computer OS? It runs more programs than everything else and you can always find a PC in your price range. Also, it was adopted by businesses and people are used to windows. After speaking to most people, my recommendation is for them to get a PC. For me to stay consistent, I cant say the same for windows phone. If people only want the basic apps then Windows phone may be a good choice. For people that want all their devices to work together and they already have a PC, windows phone may be a good choice. For tech junkies, windows phone may be a good choice. But for most people, just like more programs makes a Windows PC a better choice, more phone aps usually makes iPhone or Android a better choice.

    Of course this is a logical argument which totally leaves out the sexy/snobby/status needs of people. I know a lot of people who bought an iPhone just to say they have an iPhone. For them its a fashion statement or a matter of status. I think we can all agree MS Windows Phone isn't "fashionable" for most people.
    libra89 likes this.
    03-17-2016 12:26 PM
  5. ckeledjian's Avatar
    Okay, here I go. I've been a Windows Phone fan since the beginning. I understand technology and I could even appreciate the great effort to deliver Windows Mobile 2003. Considering the limitations and high cost of the hardware, Windows Mobile was a great UI for stylus which had a zero learning curve from someone used to Windows. With Windows 7, Microsoft wanted a complete fresh approach, and I understood Metro, it was beautiful and clean, almost like a designer magazine. But people resisted to the new and wanted their menus and more traditional interface back, so we compromised with Windows 10. With the exception of the positioning of the hamburger menu on the place farther to reach with your thumb, I think Windows 10 is a great compromise that maintains the elegance of metro and brings a perfect consistency with the desktop OS. Both IOS and Android also have very often used menus and actions positioned in the top left corner of the phone, so this is not MS fault, is the fault of user criticism and their inability to accept a menu at the bottom right, where it should be in a phone. IOS is elegant and consistent within the phone, but no with its desktop counterpart. Android is neither elegant nor consistent in any way: there are too many colors, there isn't only one accent color, the themes are a disaster with inconsistent background and accent colors, inconsistent structure and positioning of elements. I've tried dozens of themes in Android marshmallow and I like none, they are all just play ugly. One website called the Android UI 'cartoonish' and that's exactly what it is. I can never leave the elegance and consistency of Windows 10. And don't get me started with Live Tiles vs. static icons.
    As for the features, once you try other phones you realize that Siri is probably the worst assistant. Search for the 'best Chinese restaurant near me' and Siri will pump to the top 5 star restaurants with only 1 or 2 Yelp reviews. We know that a 5 star with 1 review is suspiciously fraudulent. Any good restaurant will get many reviews. Both Cortana and Google Now understand this and will more to the top a balance of number stars with many reviews. When you ask a math question, or a conversion, both Google and Cortana respond with a calculator to further do more calculation, Siri just gives a text answer. But Google now has no personality, it can't tell a joke, and is not really an assistant like Cortana who can track your packages, flights, get an Uber, track reservations, etc.

    Other apps are surprising as well. The Maps application for instance. The IOS version is nice, with 3D cities, smooth scrolling when in driving mode. But the traffic info and UI is lacking and there is no transit info for many cities. Google Maps is more complete with better traffic and transit info, but it has no streetside or 3D maps included, which is surprising since I believe it was Google the first one to have these features. WM10 Maps is very good, with 3D cities, good transit info, traffic info which includes traffic cameras too (!), streetside and works with continuum. But they say is not that good outside the US, and unnervingly, they removed the in-mall maps we enjoyed in previous versions, which would be another feature the competitors lack.
    The last issue I'm going to talk is camera. I have the Lumia 950, with 20Mp camera and it is hands down the best camera out there and I have evidence of it in every event where friends take pics with their latest iPhones and Android phones, and when they see my pictures they are wowed at the great color balance, the professional look, and it is my pictures that make it into their Facebook posts. But what happened with the software features? Samsung Galaxy's S7 12MP camera has panorama, 3D and other features that are absent in the 'after Nokia' Lumia phones, and this is just a matter of putting the software in. Even MS's own Photosynth is not available for WM10. WTF?
    So, the frustrating part of WM is that it is a great OS, in many ways more brilliantly designed than the others, with an UI consistent with their desktop counterpart, capable of running quicker in lower specs hardware, but it hasn't grabbed attraction from software developers, from hardware manufacturers and it is in many ways ignored by some of MS's own divisions. There is nothing wrong with the OS itself, and what it has been done is in the right direction, but it needs everybody on-board to be complete and take off. Some people are not willing to wait until that happens, but MS doesn't seem to be concerned because MS is MS, they will pour money into the project until it succeeds (aka. Bing, Zune/Groove) and phone users will change their phones in 1 or two years, so they can come back later.
    But MS should not act that confident and should cherish more WM10. It is in WM10 where we should get the best of MS and their close partners such as Facebook, LinkedIn and Yelp. Negotiate back that FB integration into People and Pictures apps. Reach out to your former child Expedia to integrate with Cortana to get the best detailed and personalized searches for flights and hotels and even have Cortana book them like a real assistant. Leverage the power of the solid MS APIs to integrate with more partners to bring back the Windows Phone 7 original concept that a phone should NOT be a collection of apps, with users having to open many apps to perform a task, but a phone should be an integrated UI with the purpose of serving you better and quickly while you're on the go. That's the right direction and MS is the only company that works well with others and doesn't try to do it all themselves.
    Last edited by ckeledjian; 03-17-2016 at 01:30 PM.
    03-17-2016 01:16 PM
  6. bitfidler57's Avatar
    I'm going to drop Windows Mobile. When I got the 1020 it was clear that we would receive the update to WM10. This is like WMx where x is 7 and below. You can only be told over and over again that there is an upgrade path only to be told NOT THIS TIME so many times it's time to say goodbye.

    Sorry Microsoft you've disappointed me far too many times. So when the Band 2 or the phone goes I'll go elsewhere, most likely to Apple.

    Their timing was perfect though. I had my daughter getting a 950 today ... only with this news we went out to get an iPhone 6s instead. She's pretty happy.

    I'll scrap doing UWA and move onto iOS and Android. Microsoft you lost a developer too today and a staunch advocate. Apps were not the reason I went with the platform.
    03-17-2016 03:03 PM
  7. humanhowever's Avatar
    I'm going to drop Windows Mobile. When I got the 1020 it was clear that we would receive the update to WM10. This is like WMx where x is 7 and below. You can only be told over and over again that there is an upgrade path only to be told NOT THIS TIME so many times it's time to say goodbye.

    Sorry Microsoft you've disappointed me far too many times. So when the Band 2 or the phone goes I'll go elsewhere, most likely to Apple.

    Their timing was perfect though. I had my daughter getting a 950 today ... only with this news we went out to get an iPhone 6s instead. She's pretty happy.

    I'll scrap doing UWA and move onto iOS and Android. Microsoft you lost a developer too today and a staunch advocate. Apps were not the reason I went with the platform.
    I have a 1020 too, and passed my upgrade this year so that I could get a windows 10 flagship later this year / next year. Yes, the 950/XL may be good, but I wanted a phone made for Windows, i.e. when Windows 10 was officially released (today). But after hearing Microsoft once again go back on their word, after saying all Windows Phone 8.1 devices would get the Windows 10 update, I'm once again disappointed. I love Windows 10, and the direction it is taking. But like many of my family and friends who I convinced to get Windows Phones, I too don't want to wait.

    I don't want to wait to get a phone where I can't join in with what they're doing. And yes, I've never been an app person, but there have been so many instances when out and out with people a need arises, and I have to answer, "Sorry my phone doesn't have that app."

    The promise Windows 10 brings is great, but what is a promise? No more than a cloud. It's fulfilment, rain. Microsoft is good at making clouds (no puns intended), but all it does it block out the sun.
    03-17-2016 04:30 PM
  8. giganotosaurus's Avatar
    I'm going to drop Windows Mobile. When I got the 1020 it was clear that we would receive the update to WM10. This is like WMx where x is 7 and below. You can only be told over and over again that there is an upgrade path only to be told NOT THIS TIME so many times it's time to say goodbye.

    Sorry Microsoft you've disappointed me far too many times. So when the Band 2 or the phone goes I'll go elsewhere, most likely to Apple.

    Their timing was perfect though. I had my daughter getting a 950 today ... only with this news we went out to get an iPhone 6s instead. She's pretty happy.

    I'll scrap doing UWA and move onto iOS and Android. Microsoft you lost a developer too today and a staunch advocate. Apps were not the reason I went with the platform.

    The reason why 1020 wasn't upgraded is because the drivers were not being delivered by the now defunct Nokia and Qualcomm combo.. Apple has got it easy!!! Anyways go with your choice.. Not wrong at all
    03-17-2016 05:27 PM
  9. silentintrigue's Avatar
    Amazon, amazon,amazon. No app or support for Amazon music or Amazon instant video. Why? My bank is not a major one, but I would like an app all the same.
    Guytronic and Laura Knotek like this.
    03-17-2016 07:21 PM
  10. loribinca's Avatar
    • Amazon
    • Comixology - we had it - they cancelled it
    • Here Maps - incredible this gets added to the list really - it's the best turn-by-turn navigation i've used. the fact that it's going says a lot
    • Tap to pay - I've really become hooked on this and try to use it anywhere I can so I don't need to pull out my purse.
    • Google Drive / Google Docs
    • Starbucks
    • Slice
    • Numerous social apps - Pinterest etc.
    • Numerous fashion/shopping apps
    03-17-2016 08:11 PM
  11. anon(8145610)'s Avatar
    Anyone who has not explored Google Play and the iOS app store to comparison shop doesn't know what they're talking about. I've got a half dozen WP devices but an iPhone 6 is my daily driver - WP just doesn't have the apps. And frankly, I depend on my Chase app to notify me everytime there's activity on my account. WP can't do it. I get coffee from Starbucks every day; can't pay for it (and get credit for it ) with WP. And it goes on... Love WP, but the app deficit is killing them.
    03-17-2016 09:23 PM
  12. antremaine's Avatar
    I totally agree. I want to keep coming back to windows but the inconvenience of everything android does keeps me in google's camp. The simple task of listening to music with my phone synced to my radio via Bluetooth with my nexus 6p is a seamless, pleasant experience. When my windows phone is synced the same way and i get out of my car to do a run, come back and unpause the music half the time it will disconnect from my radio and take a min or two to reconnect. It's the simple things like that that keep me from committing to windows mobile for my daily driver.
    03-17-2016 09:45 PM
  13. tgp's Avatar
    But Google now <snip> is not really an assistant like Cortana who can track your packages, flights, get an Uber, track reservations, etc.
    I more or less agree with your post, except for this. You got them switched! Google Now handles these tasks almost flawlessly. Cortana, while it has these features in theory, often (usually) doesn't actually do it.
    03-17-2016 10:34 PM
  14. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    I also have to add that I hate when people criticize others who say something works just fine for me. Of course they shouldn't be attacking people who it doesn't work for, but on a lot of Microsoft-related sites, I notice that its almost like a cardinal sin to say something works fine for you. You have this entire collection of I would assume trolls, who label anyone as a Microsoft Fanboy who isn't constantly complaining about one Microsoft product or another.
    And the fact moderation let's it go on is hilarious to me personally lol. But if you 'attack' someone who is not speaking positively of Microsoft, you are in the wrong. Hmm...
    03-17-2016 10:40 PM
  15. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    I remember fondly when android was first on the scene and people had to do this or that work around, they felt empowered. Then apps became king. I still remember trying to explain to a pc user why they couldn't use the web to visit a website and why they needed an app instead. Quite the comedy explaining they had to build an entire new system to do something they did online, like say...a bank app.

    Of course apps have come a long way, from games, to features that html cant do etc. Working for a carrier about only 30% of the people I deal with absolutely need one ecosystem over another. And even then that would be a maybe. Reading this whole thread, I find that it comes down to one thing, convenience, hit it right on the head. Local store apps etc, those are the little things that make going to WP a work around.

    As for your list. Lets think about what your wanting and what is offered. Again Android lovers always talk about the tinkering the 50 apps for one task to choose from. So if WP has this, like 6tag instead of instagram, this is all of a sudden a bad thing in WP, it was 3rd party apps on Android that forced first party apps to step up its game. So I don't see how android gets a pass here and WP doesn't. MS cannot make a dev support a feature, MS cannot make Instagram do anything. So this entire app thing while is in MS court, it is only partially them.

    Facebook the beta is great, barely if at all crashes, again just like on Android 'options'
    Instagram - 6tag
    Twitter - other apps as well just like android
    LinkedIn - Website or app
    Emails...website allows this

    Does WP need work? of course, it needs apps, it needs lots of things. But I am on the side of the only way it gets that is by user input. I rather walk around with 2 phones than rely on android as being my only device, my wife is in information security job number one target device for this is android, and its a billion dollar business, this alone will always delegate android as a second tier device for me no matter how neat the OS gets. I have never gotten a virus on my android, but it is what it is. I rather deal with oddities than dive in for convenience sake, and yes my job requires android for certain tasks.

    I don't use Clash of Clans, but damn right I want it, not for me but others. I don't use our local grocer app, but I want it. I want the stores that do make a WP app to advertise it, my mother had no idea walgreens had an app for WP, because they didn't advertise it here.
    Such a well-written point. Microsoft has always been the target of double standards. Notice the whole windows 10 security bs and yet google makes it's profit, not off android but off marketing and their user data. Microsoft can do something and be vilified for it. Google and apple will get a slap on the wrist lol. Apple has continoualy insulted their userbase (this is a company who told people they were holding their phone wrong and had to issue out a free bumper because of a hardware issue during attenagate). Microsoft releases a buggy software admittedly and suddenly it's the worse thing ever.

    I don't champion windows phone the way android and ios users do.for their platform but the fact That people are happy with two options and nothing more, wanting Microsoft or windows phone to be more like android (they were actually mad that Microsoft abandoned Astoria in favor of the better islandwood which further supports the platforms uwa)....this shows Microsoft problem isn't software, hardware or app gate. Microsoft could very well be doing things perfectly and people will always have something to say or complain about. Because it isn't android or iOS. And frankly I find that ideology more pathetic than users clinging to a 'dead' platform that works for them.

    I just need Microsoft to pick a direction and rediscover a focus for their own mobile platform. Windows 10 mobile and PC should have always been an evolved windows phone 8.1/windows 8.1. Not an attempt to appeal to a userbase who in my opinion are the main reason windows 10 mobile is so badly received. Because guess what? Those users abandoned the platform. They wanted Microsoft to be more android like and this is precisely how android was during 1.x-2.x generation. Just saying.
    elitewolverine21 likes this.
    03-17-2016 10:51 PM
  16. WinCoffee's Avatar
    I was little frustrated about twitter app because that one I use a lot! but now they updated it and made it W10 version! it is amazing!!! ^^ I myself don't use Instragram. All I want is official Youtube app! ^^ I will still stay with W10M because it is so amazing OS! I love #Tileart app it makes my start screen more fun! ^^

    btw if you want to follow me on twitter: @TripaProducer
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    03-18-2016 01:46 AM
  17. swanlee's Avatar
    We are at the point where if MS REALLY wants to support WP they need to open the check book and literally pay off devs to put apps on WP. Every attempt MS has made to make it easier for devs has not worked. This is not going to happen in an organic way. MS needs to jumpstart it.

    If MS wants WP to succeed open the check book, each month go through the top 50 apps on IOS and Android and pay off the developers to port the app to WP. After a year or so of doing this the APP library should be big enough to sustain itself

    MS also need to actually Speak up and talk about WP like they actually want it to succeed. They are way to quite about a platform teetering on failure.

    I love the WP interface, features and hardware I have a Lumia 950 now after having a Lumia 920 for 3 years that replaced an LG WP7 phone so I've been using WP since it was released.

    MS just needs to pony up and pay up to build the app library.
    Last edited by swanlee; 03-18-2016 at 07:32 AM.
    03-18-2016 06:51 AM
  18. phlamethrowre's Avatar
    Just quit Facebook--you'll have a better and longer life.
    Where would I get my news???????
    03-18-2016 07:10 AM
  19. phlamethrowre's Avatar
    anyone who has not explored google play and the ios app store to comparison shop doesn't know what they're talking about. I've got a half dozen wp devices but an iphone 6 is my daily driver - wp just doesn't have the apps. And frankly, i depend on my chase app to notify me everytime there's activity on my account. Wp can't do it. I get coffee from starbucks every day; can't pay for it (and get credit for it ) with wp. And it goes on... Love wp, but the app deficit is killing them.
    truth!!!
    libra89 and dlalonde like this.
    03-18-2016 07:12 AM
  20. LewisDale's Avatar
    It is not just one thing, for me it is a combination of many things that keeps me off WP.
    1. Lack of good hardware
    2. WP is not very customizable
    3. Lack of apps
    4. MS left me before when the market dried up and I am not convinced they won't do it again

    The old Windows Mobile used to be more like android in that you could change the interface any way to suit you and now you can't change anything. Just like iPhone which is reason I am also not an iPhone fan.
    I use Facebook on mobile browser because every version of their app sucks no matter what the platform BUT try using Southwest's mobile website versus their app or my bank's or my credit card and you soon see the truth of why people get bummed about the app gap.
    I am still gun shy after MS deserted me and many of my fellow Windows Mobile/Windows Phone when the economics looked tough. The are still a business and I am not sure they won't do it again. Comments like the recent ones about the WP market share not being sustainable keeps me away.
    03-18-2016 07:54 AM
  21. Ten Four's Avatar
    anyone who has not explored google play and the ios app store to comparison shop doesn't know what they're talking about.
    Counterpoint. I decided to go Android for awhile to see what I was missing since I hadn't used it much in the last couple of years. Went for over a month and a half. Yes, there were some really nice apps, but there were also a bunch that didn't even work--I mean nada, nothing! Download the app, complete fail. I also couldn't find certain apps that I really liked from Windows, and the substitutes weren't as good. There are definitely more apps for Android but they aren't always better. Plus, the basic functions I use all day every day didn't work as well on Android: keyboard, email, phone, texts, contacts. Just answering the phone is hard on Android--which way do you swipe? By the way, I hate swipe gestures--just don't work for me--I want to push a button that tells me what is happening. The stupid hamburger menu is out of reach half the time. You have to get a top-end phone to get a decent camera equal to what you can find on low-end Windows phone. Anyway, for some of us there are lots of reasons to prefer Windows over Android, and the app gap is overblown.
    Chintan Gohel likes this.
    03-18-2016 08:57 AM
  22. Ixolite's Avatar
    Well, I think MS has tipped it over for me with abandoning 20 series from Win10 update... One of the things they strongly stressed that all 8.1 capable phones will get Win10 update and they backed out of this one as well. Really not happy with how things are turning out. I really like WP and I really want to use it but with all the hurdles they are throwing under my feet I just don't feel like I want to even try and put any effort in staying with the platform anymore...
    dlalonde likes this.
    03-18-2016 10:01 AM
  23. congthanhgiong's Avatar
    It doesn't really matter now how you feel about the platform, it's been going down to the bottom, competition is very stiff in this industry. It can only go up as of now as long as Windows on desktop can reach to at least 500 million user base, so be back then to this thread
    dlalonde likes this.
    03-18-2016 10:30 AM
  24. cphd's Avatar
    Things I think are missing
    panorama photos that actually work well (my old Galaxy Nexus had this in the stock camera app in 2011)
    snapchat (I'm in college)

    I think that wp8.1 is a great OS, I really love(d) the facebook integration in the contacts and calendar app, and onedrive works well enough for me.
    That being said I feel like what misses are apps that make a phone fun.
    As mentioned above snapchat, msqrd, most of the game-apps that get hyped, ... . I certainly don't need these apps, but they are what keeps people engaged with their phones. Latest example might be the basketball mini-game in the facebook messenger: It's useless and probably annoying after a few days because you fill up your chats with scores, but it's nice to be able to play with it.
    And if these apps eventually come to wp the hype usually is already gone.
    I can't really say anything about banking or appy for local shops since banking for me is walking up to the atm, and the local shops always send paper versions of their coupons to everyone within 50 miles, so you can't really miss anything there
    dlalonde likes this.
    03-18-2016 11:35 AM
  25. loribinca's Avatar
    It doesn't really matter now how you feel about the platform, it's been going down to the bottom, competition is very stiff in this industry. It can only go up as of now as long as Windows on desktop can reach to at least 500 million user base, so be back then to this thread
    Any by hook or by crook they're going to get there by installing Windows 10 onto your computer whether you like it or not .. This strategy is going to backfire on them.
    03-18-2016 11:38 AM
246 ... 34567 ...

Similar Threads

  1. From Zambia, hello comrades :)
    By mn108 in forum New to the Forums? Introduce Yourself Here!
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 03-17-2016, 02:55 PM
  2. download xap from pc
    By meraj nobari in forum Ask a Question
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 03-15-2016, 05:51 PM
  3. How do I turn off feedback from my screenshots?
    By SunMan in forum Microsoft Lumia 950
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 03-14-2016, 11:31 PM
  4. Spotify will continue to support Windows ecosystem, Windows 10 update coming today
    By WindowsCentral.com in forum Windows Central News Discussion
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 03-14-2016, 07:30 AM
  5. Undead vs. Plants - plants war against undeads
    By peaksel in forum App Spotlight
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 03-14-2016, 06:38 AM
LINK TO POST COPIED TO CLIPBOARD