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  1. Keith White Jr's Avatar
    I just don't believe that MSFT will keep say 10586.122 on their insider server six months later, serving old phones to be updated <- That's the "closing the door" I mean.

    I think they will, just as they will keep 8.1 around and 7.8 around for the customers that still use those phones. I still don't think they will close the door.
    03-19-2016 03:24 PM
  2. KRDROIDD's Avatar
    My firmware is 3058.50000.1429.0002

    I think it is RM-995
    mine is RM-994
    03-19-2016 03:31 PM
  3. Emanuel Manole's Avatar
    My firmware is 3058.50000.1429.0002

    I think it is RM-995
    I have RM-994 and the firmware 3058.500000.1424.0003. Do you know any posible solution for me to upgrade my 1320 to your firmware version ?
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    03-19-2016 03:35 PM
  4. Emanuel Manole's Avatar
    My firmware is 3058.50000.1429.0002

    I think it is RM-995
    Have you had any freezing/heating/battery problems in windows 10?
    03-19-2016 03:38 PM
  5. Emanuel Manole's Avatar
    1320 works wells with the .164 build.
    Can you tell me please your RM model for 1320 and your firmware? Also , do you have freezing/heating/battery problems?
    03-19-2016 03:46 PM
  6. Keith White Jr's Avatar
    I have RM-994 and the firmware 3058.500000.1424.0003. Do you know any posible solution for me to upgrade my 1320 to your firmware version ?
    Sorry, I don't know how to update the firmware. I just assume that the firmware updates with the phone
    03-19-2016 03:56 PM
  7. Keith White Jr's Avatar
    Have you had any freezing/heating/battery problems in windows 10?

    My phone freezes up from time to time but no less than it did on 8.1

    My phone doesn't get as hot as it used to on 8.1

    Battery life seems the same
    03-19-2016 03:57 PM
  8. Hexa Blast's Avatar
    Of you have a 1320, I encourage you to install build.164, without doing a HardReset the performance is perfect.
    03-19-2016 04:24 PM
  9. Emanuel Manole's Avatar
    Of you have a 1320, I encourage you to install build.164, without doing a HardReset the performance is perfect.
    Can you tell what RM model do you have and what firmware are you runnning on your lumia 1320 ? Also freezing/heating/battery problems?
    KRDROIDD likes this.
    03-19-2016 04:26 PM
  10. KRDROIDD's Avatar
    Of you have a 1320, I encourage you to install build.164, without doing a HardReset the performance is perfect.
    also what did you choose ? slow ring or release preview ??
    03-19-2016 05:09 PM
  11. Paddy Redmond's Avatar
    The Verge headline says all w8 phones will be upgraded to w10. The tweet states "we plan....."

    There is a huge difference between we plan and we will. Ok, I only have a 925 and it has worked on w10 from day 1, and I am sorry that it will not be upgraded any further, but it has had w10 for over a year.

    Moving on.
    Last edited by Paddy Redmond; 03-19-2016 at 05:18 PM. Reason: Typo
    Keith White Jr likes this.
    03-19-2016 05:17 PM
  12. eryvile's Avatar
    The Verge headline says all w8 phones will be upgraded to w10. The tweet states "we plan....."

    @13:50 they say "we will".

    My 925 is probably better off with 8.1, but the store will start dying as apps move to uwp and become Windows 10 only (as it happened with the WP7 store).

    Worse is, they lost their credibility, it'll be hard for me to trust/believe any future statement they make...
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    03-19-2016 05:24 PM
  13. midnightfrolic's Avatar

    @13:50 they say "we will".

    My 925 is probably better off with 8.1, but the store will start dying as apps move to uwp and become Windows 10 only (as it happened with the WP7 store).

    Worse is, they lost their credibility, it'll be hard for me to trust/believe any future statement they make...

    I watched that 13:50 mark several times. The presenter stated "we will make AVILABLE a free upgrade to Windows 10", not we will make absolutely sure Win10M works and installs on all devices running Windows 7/8 and Win Phone 8.1 without problems and it'll runs blazing faster besterest thing since sliced bread. That's just peeps assuming and hear and understanding what they want to be told.
    03-19-2016 07:32 PM
  14. Vasrias's Avatar
    Just to know if I understand correctly:
    The listed phones in the blog article receive official W10M today, and will get redstone insider updates and after release official redstone updates. All phones which are not on the list will stay officially on W8.1 and if they use the insider preview, they get W10M with build 102586.164 and updates for this build (102586.XXX) until redstone is released.

    Is this correct?
    If so, could it be possible to get somehow unofficial redstone builds for this phone?
    For the ones interested:
    I found a way to get redstone on unsupported devices. So every Insider who feels betrayed by MS can stop feeling betrayed ;)
    It's a german site, but with the new translator extension for edge this shouldn't be a problem.
    Anleitung: Redstone-Builds auf alte Lumia-Smartphone installieren
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    03-19-2016 07:43 PM
  15. jaketobbie's Avatar
    #weallarelumia1020. Discrimination. Inequality. I cannot believe that we have waited so much for an update and suddenly we are not going to receive it. With the excuse that insiders said that it had performance issues. They probably said it for it to be fixed not to be eliminated from the list of phones who are going to be updated. A company as prestigious as Microsoft could not make any better?. Suddenly we will be penalized for choosing these cell phones models? It is so disappointing that we patiently waited all of these release date changes to find out we are completely excluded.
    theefman likes this.
    03-19-2016 08:37 PM
  16. taylerdo's Avatar
    Please provide a translation.

    Of course, the Edge Translator Extension does not want to install [or work.]

    Thanks.

    Don
    03-19-2016 09:06 PM
  17. Simon Hinton's Avatar
    Microsoft can pull the strangest things sometimes. This reminds me of the Onedrive free storage fiasco and the effort to take back storage they promised from their consumers. Here's hoping they backtrack a little for the sake of keeping their OS ecosystem unfragmented (the whole point of the Windows 10 push, no?), and use the low-end devices as a drive to keep performance improvements at the forefront of development.
    03-19-2016 09:21 PM
  18. god_forbids's Avatar
    Honestly have heard more bad than good from 920 owners on 10. Just sayin'.
    03-19-2016 09:26 PM
  19. Johnny Tremaine's Avatar
    They could make it work, we see 520s running well on it. And you do get windows 10 as promised, just won't get redstone or anything else. So technically it extends the lifespan of your device for a bit there. A device that is already old. This was planned in a way. New features will be coming in Redstone. Old devices will not be able to use them anyways. Why go through all the issues this could cause when instead you can drop them and not have to worry about constantly updating code for extremely old devices when windows 10 is meant for the future.

    And here's the kicker. MS already knew how much percentage will drop. They still took the risk because Redstone is far too big to care about that percentage. It's a completely new market for new people to jump in on. Not even steal market share from competitors but build a new category that will be part of future market share reports. Just like they did with the surface line. The re-invention is not hardware, it's software. They don't do hardware. They just show off their own hardware they make but would prefer OEMs to do the brunt work. And that's how it is in the PC industry. This is how the 2-in-1 laptops are selling and that's how the 2-in-1 phones will be selling. And the market share will be up for grabs for any OEMs. MS isn't trying to steal that share. So they don't care if the phone shares get obliterated. They are just phones...

    And I should mention. The software is designed to adapt to any hardware. The feature set that they include is what will open up OEMs to any sort of devices they wish. They don't even have to be phones, they can be ar units, video game consoles. Anything.

    MS is essentially introducing a new battleground for OEMs to gain market share in.
    You're buying into the marketing.
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    03-19-2016 10:26 PM
  20. Akhil_007's Avatar
    1320 most certainly has a SD400 processor. One of the few phones to carry the Krait cored SD400 - it was mighty but inefficient compared to the later A7 cored SD400.
    but its dual core,,not quad core.
    and MS is offering w10m to quad core processors only(with 1GB ram)..what can we do.
    03-19-2016 10:31 PM
  21. Akhil_007's Avatar
    Lumia 1320 does have a snapdragon 400 cpu. I own the lumia 1320 and i know what i'm talking about. Lumia 1320 was released on october 2013.But your talking doesn't really help the device to get the windows 10 update!
    plz get to understand what i'm saying..
    its not the same SD400...it early processor dual core clocked @1.7Ghz....
    you can check the specs anywhere..
    03-19-2016 10:33 PM
  22. Simon Hinton's Avatar
    plz get to understand what i'm saying..
    its not the same SD400...it early processor dual core clocked @1.7Ghz....
    you can check the specs anywhere..
    The Lumia 435 is a dual core device, they're limiting this rollout based on the feedback people have given, not entirely because of the specs alone. I assume they want to stop wasting money refining W10M to work better on these excluded phones, even though it would benefit the entire platform.

    If they can't optimize the photo app to not stutter and lag when pinching and zooming on a 1.3ghz quad core 735 (when it worked perfectly on a duel core 1ghz 620 in WP8) there's still a ton of work to do.
    03-19-2016 10:48 PM
  23. nikkoimperial's Avatar
    I am currently installing Windows 10 Mobile (Slow Ring preview) in my Nokia Lumia 920.

    I didn't do a back up because there is no much data on it (I lost my phone awhile ago so I did a hard reset but I got it back, thanks to the taxi driver who have found it.)

    Anyways, I hope I will not regret this. Hahaha!

    PS: Too bad, I will never get the official upgrade.
    03-19-2016 11:35 PM
  24. windobuddies625's Avatar
    Can you tell me please your RM model for 1320 and your firmware? Also , do you have freezing/heating/battery problems?
    3058.50000.1424.0003 on build .164. RM-994.... Phone works pretty well. When the build released i hard reset after and being using ever since. No freezing , heating... Battery life gets me almost 2 days with medium usage. Its my daily driver too. Gives me 24 hours or so if i use alot. Mostly texting, Instagram, twitter.
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    03-19-2016 11:49 PM
  25. nikkoimperial's Avatar
    I have the .107 version. It's the latest right?
    03-20-2016 12:06 AM
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