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  1. laserfloyd's Avatar
    Microsoft a.k.a liars
    Lies? Or just overly optimistic/ambitious. I don't think they realized how badly some of the x20 devices would run WM10. A better way to state it would be "We hope to make it available but need feedback on how devices perform." Still, that's not enough for some because that creates a crapstorm of "HERE WE GO AGAIN WITH WP7!1!!" So, they're in an unwinnable situation. Maybe after this time they'll get it right. Hey, at least half of the WP8 devices are upgradable to 10 vs zero WP7 devices moving to WP8. Now that was a fiasco. ;)
    Keith White Jr likes this.
    03-20-2016 10:47 AM
  2. Peribanu's Avatar
    Because someone asked, here's my own translation for a way to get redstone builds on unsupported phones like 920. I haven't tried it yet, because the current build has sync problems with the Band. But a friend of mine tried it on a Lumia 920 and he said it works like a charm. The german original article can be found here:
    ...
    Thank you very much, Vasrias, that's really helpful!
    Keith White Jr likes this.
    03-20-2016 10:54 AM
  3. veerabadhra's Avatar
    Had pathetic experience running 10 on Lumia 1020. Poor battery life, hanging apps, sluggish response etc. Moved back to 8.1 and eventually moved to iphone 6s. As much as I love the camera on 1020 and have good memories with it, I couldn't handle the mediocre windows ecosystem any longer. Maybe I will move back to WP a couple of years down the line once it matures ( I'm sure it does with the WP10) but for now, I'm tired of being the guinea pig.
    03-20-2016 11:02 AM
  4. nedarata's Avatar
    1020 camera wins in low light and that's it
    03-20-2016 11:21 AM
  5. gwinegarden's Avatar
    The Verge headline says all w8 phones will be upgraded to w10. The tweet states "we plan....."

    There is a huge difference between we plan and we will. Ok, I only have a 925 and it has worked on w10 from day 1, and I am sorry that it will not be upgraded any further, but it has had w10 for over a year.

    Moving on.
    Look above your post. See the tweet that does not say "plan".
    Varun Rajan likes this.
    03-20-2016 11:36 AM
  6. gwinegarden's Avatar
    Honestly have heard more bad than good from 920 owners on 10. Just sayin'.
    That's because people are more likely to post complaints than praise.
    theefman and Varun Rajan like this.
    03-20-2016 11:38 AM
  7. Paolo Ferrazza's Avatar
    LOL all of you can get the released official build of WM10, complaints complaints complaints
    03-20-2016 11:41 AM
  8. gwinegarden's Avatar
    I watched that 13:50 mark several times. The presenter stated "we will make AVILABLE a free upgrade to Windows 10", not we will make absolutely sure Win10M works and installs on all devices running Windows 7/8 and Win Phone 8.1 without problems and it'll runs blazing faster besterest thing since sliced bread. That's just peeps assuming and hear and understanding what they want to be told.
    "Available" certainly implies "supported". What we are being told is that we can have it but they won't support it.
    03-20-2016 11:47 AM
  9. Saini Mukund's Avatar
    it works good on 920 m using it but jst a bit lag and app prob not all
    itd be good if nokia was in micro is tryin to increase the sell of new products which runs wp10
    03-20-2016 11:48 AM
  10. gwinegarden's Avatar
    LOL all of you can get the released official build of WM10, complaints complaints complaints
    With no support.
    Varun Rajan likes this.
    03-20-2016 11:49 AM
  11. windobuddies625's Avatar
    Lies? Or just overly optimistic/ambitious. I don't think they realized how badly some of the x20 devices would run WM10. A better way to state it would be "We hope to make it available but need feedback on how devices perform." Still, that's not enough for some because that creates a crapstorm of "HERE WE GO AGAIN WITH WP7!1!!" So, they're in an unwinnable situation. Maybe after this time they'll get it right. Hey, at least half of the WP8 devices are upgradable to 10 vs zero WP7 devices moving to WP8. Now that was a fiasco. ;)
    Least they shudnt have said all phones running 8.1 will get windows 10.
    03-20-2016 12:02 PM
  12. matrixbjk's Avatar
    Lumia 920 ! First Flagship windows phone.
    But the update has not been published.
    It is impossible to understand !!!
    We expect urgent update from Microsoft to come !
    Microsoft has promised to all users .
    Microsoft should keep its promise .
    Vodyan and Varun Rajan like this.
    03-20-2016 12:23 PM
  13. shahidkazi's Avatar
    Cant say im not disappointed but then you need to agree that old hardware does need to be phased out eventually. It cant support everything new. MS did try their best to support all (which is why they opened up Insider to all and then keep the ones that actually could handle the OS and its planned upgrade). Its simply thinning the herd. Which is far less than what i can say for Android (which stops support for a huge amount of phones with each OS upgrade). I have a 3 year old Android tab which cannot go beyond KitKat :) So just accept the facts and move on rather than whining.

    Btw i did try Windows 10 on my 1320 and no i cannot use it as a daily driver (Edge was sluggish if the site is a wee bit heavy), had the occassional freeze and crashes (Im guess memory couldnt handle all the processing load), plus battery life was down by atleast 30%. IO with data on SD cards was also pretty bad. So im not surprised 1320 was left out (no sense having a dedicated team to handle 5 year old hardware to try and keep it alive with regular CPR procedures) :)
    03-20-2016 12:30 PM
  14. KRDROIDD's Avatar
    last night i installed w10 build .164 for the first time on my L1320 and i choose release preview ring but it overheated and drained the battery overnight (i left it on 100% when i went to sleep and found it on 19% when i woke up after 6 hours) so i changed it to slow ring and it just restarted without downloading or installing anything and the overheating and battery draining just disappeared :) and i'm really having a good experience with w10 on my L1320 right now except for the occasional freeze when i overuse it... i really wish that MS included the lovely L1320 to the firmware upgradeable phones.
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    03-20-2016 01:01 PM
  15. windobuddies625's Avatar
    last night i installed w10 build .164 for the first time on my L1320 and i choose release preview ring but it overheated and drained the battery overnight (i left it on 100% when i went to sleep and found it on 19% when i woke up after 6 hours) so i changed it to slow ring and it just restarted without downloading or installing anything and the overheating and battery draining just disappeared :) and i'm really having a good experience with w10 on my L1320 right now except for the occasional freeze when i overuse it... i really wish that MS included the lovely L1320 to the firmware upgradeable phones.
    Give it some time.. Did you hard reset?
    03-20-2016 01:04 PM
  16. KRDROIDD's Avatar
    Give it some time.. Did you hard reset?
    yes i did a hard reset right after w10 .164 finished installing.. and then i restored it from 8.1 backup and everything working well right now. and it's as fast as 8.1 was.. didn't really noticed a big difference.
    03-20-2016 01:11 PM
  17. deepu krishnan's Avatar
    I am using Win 10 insider .164 on a Lumia 822 as well as Lumia 535

    Both are running fine without any issues. Only issue i noticed was that battery drains faster after upgrade. Some modern games like Fifa 15 lag slightly on the 822 which is understandable. ALso noticed couple of apps for 8.1 some times crashes but even those run when tries second time.

    Other than that absolutely no issues. The UI is butter smooth with absolutely no problems. Loving it.
    03-20-2016 01:12 PM
  18. AllenJohn's Avatar
    I think the Build .164 is the best WM10 for the 1020, good battery life and better resource management, smoother operations
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    03-20-2016 01:12 PM
  19. Saldatoccio's Avatar
    My daily driver is a Lumia 830 that I WON'T upgrade to Windows 10 Mobile again: I've been an Insider for months, providing a lot of feedback but it seems that most of the issues are still present in the latest build (a colleague of mine owns a Lumia 830 and, after upgrading to Windows 10 a couple of days ago, he's experiencing the same issues that I reported months ago to Microsoft).

    On the other hand, I also have a Lumia 720 on Windows 10 (10586.164, as Windows Insider) and it's smooth enough to run it... I'd say that owners of those device should be granted with the right to opt-in (through Upgrade Advisor) after being warned that the UX might not be 100% as expected.
    03-20-2016 01:14 PM
  20. mariusmuntean's Avatar
    we can argue all we can. the facts remain: MS did it again, this time by talking to early things that they were not sure about. It's curious to see the result of all this fiasco: the user base will drop for sure, but how much?
    KRDROIDD and Karanstyle like this.
    03-20-2016 01:21 PM
  21. Karanstyle's Avatar
    I fully agree as a Lumia 950 XL owner for past 4 months(nearly) now.
    03-20-2016 01:59 PM
  22. UrhoRtl's Avatar
    I think the Build .164 is the best WM10 for the 1020, good battery life and better resource management, smoother operations
    Hi Allan,
    but how is the Lumia Camera?
    My L1020 camera lost the focus, everything is blur.
    03-20-2016 02:07 PM
  23. qbenguy's Avatar
    Hi All,

    I'm a proud Lumia 925 owner, on the Insider fast ring - current build 1425.10367. I have to admit that I'm a bit surprised, and disappointed. But I also understand that at some point Microsoft needs to move on, and they can't continue to support all of their phones. But it really did seem like that's what they said they were doing. Offer Windows 10 to all phones. At least that's what I took away.

    So it sounds like for those that are not on the list, we're stuck on the last update. Am I wrong? I sure hope so. Otherwise that means our phones won't get any support, or updates. Doesn't sound very appealing. I've been happy running Windows 10, and although it's not perfect it's been working fine. I've put off upgrading because I really never thought I would stop getting support, and updates. I'm not sure anymore, and I'm not leaning to switching to Android. Definitely not iOS. But do I need to be prepared to make a switch? What are you guys considering?
    03-20-2016 02:25 PM
  24. SammyD97's Avatar
    Sorry but on Android every phone had a chance to upgrade to a newer OS version atleast once.

    Try again
    03-20-2016 02:27 PM
  25. Maurizio Troso's Avatar
    Win10 crashes on 512MB phones during intensive use, there's nothing they can do ....
    It's like running Windows 10 on a old Pentium with a 512 MB Ram desktop :(
    03-20-2016 02:47 PM
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