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  1. Maurizio Troso's Avatar
    New configuration update for the 1020 on Fast Ring, everything goes very very smooth after update, only blank icon for Groove, that's all.

    So great update to the system
    Ehm, man, that'all... It was only a config update... You don't get anymore ....
    03-24-2016 02:19 PM
  2. erictrinh276's Avatar
    Did Microsoft say that "All" older phones will be updated or just "older phones would be updated? Because if it's the latter than technically Microsoft is keeping to their word as the L640 is an older phone. People just assumed. But if they said "All" then they definitely need to stop overpromising because all they're doing is giving more ammo to the haters.
    They stated in the conference that all 8.1 phones will be updated
    Go watch this:
    I'm not haters because I've been using Windows phone since 7
    03-24-2016 02:21 PM
  3. Grant Taylor3's Avatar
    New configuration update for the 1020 on Fast Ring, everything goes very very smooth after update, only blank icon for Groove, that's all.



    So great update to the system

    You have to check for updates again after the reboot once the configuration update is installed.
    03-24-2016 02:32 PM
  4. Dragunov2's Avatar
    Only this, no other updates, only Configuration Update.

    But why release a Configuation Update for a phone not longer supported?!
    03-24-2016 02:38 PM
  5. Grant Taylor3's Avatar
    Only this, no other updates, only Configuration Update.

    But why release a Configuation Update for a phone not longer supported?!
    Try running the Windows insiders app again.
    03-24-2016 03:22 PM
  6. Dragunov2's Avatar
    Explain...

    Thanks!
    03-24-2016 04:05 PM
  7. seed dede's Avatar
    That's happen when people stops using brain.
    Win10 is THE LAST MS o.s. , it will not be a Win11. It will develop in future build after build.

    Hardware using 10 now can use 10 in future. That's so obvious I can't believe there's the need of writing!
    we'll see
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    03-24-2016 04:12 PM
  8. Grant Taylor3's Avatar
    Try running the insider app again and change to a different ring. You may actually be too late Microsoft may had switched off the insiders 586 ring for unsupported devices now they have started offering RS1 builds to older phones on the insider program.
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    03-24-2016 04:16 PM
  9. Grant Taylor3's Avatar
    Let's face it the S4 in the 1020 etc was old hat back when the 1020 came out.

    I got mine at release and my wife got her Note 3 with the SD800.
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    03-24-2016 06:26 PM
  10. Keith White Jr's Avatar
    we'll see
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    Did you get that from Wikipedia? That can't be trusted lol.

    And even if it could, it has already been changed to:

    Mainstream support until October 13, 2020, Extended support until October 14, 2025.

    The truth is, no one really knows.
    03-24-2016 06:57 PM
  11. kabelo albert's Avatar
    Lumia 920/925 the best phones in the business are not getting the update mxm
    03-24-2016 07:17 PM
  12. Saini Mukund's Avatar
    Search scrolling top of page the articles about Windows 10 roll out: Gabe said for x20 series build 10586 will be the last in Insider. Maybe Redstone will be released in slow on Summer for all windows 10 updatable phone, not x20 serie.
    You can still normally use 10586 but after that day you'll never get support, if there are not change of strategy.
    Collecting feedback revealed Win10 is too much problematic on X20 serie for a solution.
    See articles
    they sucks =-= dumping x20 series not a good thing
    03-24-2016 07:52 PM
  13. anon(6078578)'s Avatar
    That's happen when people stops using brain.
    Win10 is THE LAST MS o.s. , it will not be a Win11. It will develop in future build after build.

    Hardware using 10 now can use 10 in future. That's so obvious I can't believe there's the need of writing!
    The idea of idea of Windows 10 being the last version of windows seems a bit disingenuous really. It's still going to change, only it won't be separate distinct versions, just a continual upgrade. There still has to be a point where your device will no longer be able to handle the latest features and hence you'll have to upgrade just as you would in the past.
    Guytronic likes this.
    03-24-2016 08:08 PM
  14. NASAM's Avatar
    Lumia 920 i am sad....
    03-24-2016 09:29 PM
  15. Ben_NC's Avatar
    I was just reading over in the Redstone Build (bugs) thread .. those folks better be careful before msft decides that their phones aren't capable enough to run Windows 10 Mobile, from 'all the bad feedback'. (ha ha I couldn't help myself). No issue, it just struck me funny. :-)
    03-24-2016 10:33 PM
  16. Varun Rajan's Avatar
    Did you get that from Wikipedia? That can't be trusted lol.

    And even if it could, it has already been changed to:

    Mainstream support until October 13, 2020, Extended support until October 14, 2025.

    The truth is, no one really knows.
    But here's a thought with in few years MS is gonna perfect the stability then they will add some more features probably resource intensive ones. The update will then not enitrely support current flagships coz of the same reasons as of now. So irrespective of the name of the OS people are gonna feel left out atleast with some features. And thats no big deal as they have access to the same store. And at some point they will make drastic changes to the base mobile OS as an attempt to further make it desktop like. The problem with MS is the actual cumulative updates are so slow that a device would be just relevant enough to get an update in its lifetime.
    03-24-2016 10:34 PM
  17. Peribanu's Avatar
    You can choose between Slow and Release, Production is for getting out Insider program. Today, both Slow and Release has the same build 10586.164 released to the masses, and we are standing by new maybe on fist week in April
    Strange, when I updated my 1020 from 8.1 to 10 .164 a couple of days ago, I chose "production ring", and it straight away started installing .107 then after updates .164. So I don't think Production ring is for "getting out", or rather, it gets you out but only after updating to the latest W10M production ring. I can confirm that after update to .164, Windows Insider no longer shows me as enrolled in the Insider programme. So, the effect of choosing Production Ring, for me, was the same as installing the Upgrade Advisor on a non-x2x phone.

    EDIT: Apologies, it wasn't "Production Ring" I chose, it was "Release Preview". There is a lot of confusion between these terms on this forum.
    Last edited by Peribanu; 03-25-2016 at 04:37 AM. Reason: Corrected info about ring
    Maurizio Troso likes this.
    03-25-2016 04:28 AM
  18. Maurizio Troso's Avatar
    I was just reading over in the Redstone Build (bugs) thread .. those folks better be careful before msft decides that their phones aren't capable enough to run Windows 10 Mobile, from 'all the bad feedback'. (ha ha I couldn't help myself). No issue, it just struck me funny. :-)
    I DON'T put Redstone on my 650 till I'll see it in Prerelease. The Hard reset bug is the first stop for me
    03-25-2016 05:19 AM
  19. mvierling's Avatar
    What I see these days (maybe this does not apply directly to you) is a lot of people with old phones that were going to the competition anyway and just needed a reason to justify themselves. I mean, if you really enjoyed and wanted to stay you would probably upgrade 3 years old models anyway (you don't keep a phone longer than 3 years on other platforms either) so what is happening clearly is:

    -people fed up with windows using this excuse to leave the platform and upgrade their old phones to a new platform
    -people still interested in windows using this excuse to upgrade their old phones to a new windows phone
    People kept their 1020 for 3 years because there was nothing better on Windows Mobile. The cheap looking 950 doesn't cut it. I myself have since switched to Android after being on Windows since the Windows Mobile 5 days. I occasionally pull out my 1020 to see if there is any improvement on apps, and of course there hasn't been. Excluding half of your user base is not how you treat your fans or help promote or grow your product. You think Apple would ever exclude 3 year old phones from their updates? Not a chance.
    03-25-2016 06:21 AM
  20. Grant Taylor3's Avatar
    The 950 runs rings around the 1020. The 1020 takes a great photo but in day to day use the 950 is much better.



    The 950 has a much better screen, it is faster. I have stuck a 128GB microSD card in mine.



    The 1020 is a beautiful bit of kit but technology moves on.



    Sure the will be new hardware that comes out that the newer builds will take advantage of that will not be available to current 950 users but that is life.
    Last edited by Grant Taylor3; 03-25-2016 at 07:52 AM.
    03-25-2016 07:37 AM
  21. Keith White Jr's Avatar
    But here's a thought with in few years MS is gonna perfect the stability then they will add some more features probably resource intensive ones. The update will then not enitrely support current flagships coz of the same reasons as of now. So irrespective of the name of the OS people are gonna feel left out atleast with some features. And thats no big deal as they have access to the same store. And at some point they will make drastic changes to the base mobile OS as an attempt to further make it desktop like. The problem with MS is the actual cumulative updates are so slow that a device would be just relevant enough to get an update in its lifetime.
    Actually I don't think that Windows 10 will be the last OS. In a few years I think Microsoft will announce some new OS (maybe Windows 11, maybe Windows Final, maybe XBOX for PC or maybe some other name that a bunch of suits in a boardroom deem "cool") and Windows 10 will be left in the dust.

    My point was that no one actually knows when that will happen. Not one person.
    Varun Rajan likes this.
    03-25-2016 08:46 AM
  22. justmoe40's Avatar
    no **** lol. new phones tend to do that. but not everyone can update hardware often nor do they want to. my 1020 has handled every preview release without issue.
    03-25-2016 08:48 AM
  23. erictrinh276's Avatar
    I was just reading over in the Redstone Build (bugs) thread .. those folks better be careful before msft decides that their phones aren't capable enough to run Windows 10 Mobile, from 'all the bad feedback'. (ha ha I couldn't help myself). No issue, it just struck me funny. :-)
    don't worry my friend
    those folks are "rich" and could buy 1 flagship phone every year
    03-25-2016 08:54 AM
  24. erictrinh276's Avatar
    Actually I don't think that Windows 10 will be the last OS. In a few years I think Microsoft will announce some new OS (maybe Windows 11, maybe Windows Final, maybe XBOX for PC or maybe some other name that a bunch of suits in a boardroom deem "cool") and Windows 10 will be left in the dust.

    My point was that no one actually knows when that will happen. Not one person.
    M$ change their plans more often than a woman changes her opinions of where to eat out for a dinner
    03-25-2016 08:56 AM
  25. Maurizio Troso's Avatar
    No cheating on my 520. I tried it and it didn'nt worked. Not bad, it stays well in 10586
    03-25-2016 11:51 AM
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