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  1. sikurunana's Avatar
    So, I just read this article on Verge and thought of sharing with you guys. This is a really big disappointment.

    Microsoft is making it ever more harder to stick with Windows Mobile. For the first time, seriously considering switching to Android. :(

    http://www.theverge.com/2016/3/30/11333378/microsoft-windows-phone-windows-mobile-plans
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    03-31-2016 04:36 AM
  2. Maurizio Troso's Avatar
    So, I just read this article on Verge and thought of sharing with you guys. This is a really big disappointment.

    Microsoft is making it ever more harder to stick with Windows Mobile. For the first time, seriously considering switching to Android. :(

    Microsoft: Windows Phone isn't our focus this year | The Verge
    Before spamming such "click bait" titles, please read article TO THE END

    IMHO
    03-31-2016 04:43 AM
  3. sikurunana's Avatar
    Before spamming such "click bait" titles, please read article TO THE END

    IMHO
    I am not spamming, and I did read the entire article. I'm not saying Windows Phone is dead. Its just that the development or evolution of Windows Mobile is not happening at a pace that should, in order to compete with its ever-growing competitors.
    03-31-2016 05:51 AM
  4. Spectrum90's Avatar
    Microsoft keeps neglecting mobile. This is probably the end of the road for Windows Phone.
    03-31-2016 06:25 AM
  5. Hazem Khaled's Avatar
    I think Microsoft meant that they are working on Windows 10 as an all but not Windows 10 Mobile specifically which is not as bad as it sounds
    03-31-2016 06:46 AM
  6. Cruachan 11's Avatar
    I think Microsoft meant that they are working on Windows 10 as an all but not Windows 10 Mobile specifically which is not as bad as it sounds
    That's how I read it too. W10M is out there now, so the focus is on getting more apps in the Windows Store on the primary platform (Classic Windows) which will put more apps in the Mobile store.
    03-31-2016 07:24 AM
  7. erictrinh276's Avatar
    so happy to switch to Galaxy S7 edge.
    I don't think there will be many updates for phones this year, which totally sucks.
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    03-31-2016 07:25 AM
  8. erictrinh276's Avatar
    I think Microsoft meant that they are working on Windows 10 as an all but not Windows 10 Mobile specifically which is not as bad as it sounds
    no, they meant what they say.
    Even Windows is one system now, mobile is still different from laptop/pc.
    and what they meant not just technical part, its also about marketing...
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    03-31-2016 07:28 AM
  9. sikurunana's Avatar
    so happy to switch to Galaxy S7 edge.
    I don't think there will be many updates for phones this year, which totally sucks.
    Don't you miss the Windows Mobile platform or the interface etc.?
    03-31-2016 08:52 AM
  10. HeyCori's Avatar
    I can't believe Myerson would say something like that... it's only the exact same thing Nadella said over a year ago.

    Satya Nadella still 'committed' to Microsoft's phone business despite layoffs | Windows Central

    I am committed to our first-party devices including phones. However, we need to focus our phone efforts in the near term while driving reinvention. We are moving from a strategy to grow a standalone phone business to a strategy to grow and create a vibrant Windows ecosystem that includes our first-party device family.
    03-31-2016 10:02 AM
  11. KimRM's Avatar
    no, they meant what they say.
    Even Windows is one system now, mobile is still different from laptop/pc.
    and what they meant not just technical part, its also about marketing...
    ok
    03-31-2016 10:28 AM
  12. Giddora's Avatar
    Yeah... They are putting focus on the bots, skype, Office, Windows 10 and Cortana... All of which is on phones too.

    What, exactly, is the problem with this?
    03-31-2016 11:15 AM
  13. jdballard's Avatar
    no, they meant what they say.
    Even Windows is one system now, mobile is still different from laptop/pc.
    and what they meant not just technical part, its also about marketing...
    Not sure if you're saying mobile is different from laptop/PC, but if that is what you're saying, that's not really true. They share quite a bit of the same code.

    I think Hazem Khaled's point was that while they didn't specifically say Windows 10 mobile, given that they use the same codebase, they are actually working on both and that's a good thing.
    Laura Knotek, Satsumo and kz_m like this.
    03-31-2016 11:27 AM
  14. broar94's Avatar
    Dont know what the problem suddenly is! to me, WP10 is almost like previous Wp8.1 but with some nice animations and better UI. Apps are the same, I expect there will be more as UWP is available in Wp10 store only. Is there anything new that is dratically different from the previous OS? lol MS statements doesn't make any moot here, as long as the OS is continually improved and bugs ironed out in future builds, we are okay I guess.
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    03-31-2016 11:35 AM
  15. PPCFreak's Avatar
    I think Microsoft meant that they are working on Windows 10 as an all but not Windows 10 Mobile specifically which is not as bad as it sounds
    while I agree with this statement, the fact is that MS put this out and in the general public mind, it says 'MS is not focusing on Mobile'.
    your average consumer still has no idea that MS is positioning Windows 10 to be seamless across multiple platforms.
    All they see and hear is that statement which coming from MS themselves, should have be more direct about the windows 10 as a whole across multiple platforms and not just single out the word Mobile.
    03-31-2016 12:08 PM
  16. khaled22's Avatar
    MS might say and refer to windows 10 as a whole but to the regular users and site owners and bloggers, reviewers its just windows 10 for desktops and tables. By not mentioning windows phone even if its in the same category its making things more worse. You cant announce new features, office apps for ios and android and not mention widows phone and even show something using android phone. this is going to have a bad effect regarding windows phone users as they are going to feel more and more abandoned from their own developer. You cant just let it out just like that. I am also an owner of lumia 930 and im very satisfied of the os but seeing and hearing nothing about windows phone on MS own conference i also feel a bit disappointed. I believe their approach for phones was wrong.
    03-31-2016 12:32 PM
  17. broar94's Avatar
    03-31-2016 12:39 PM
  18. PPCFreak's Avatar
    ^^ and without that image, say that same statement to the average user on the street....and I guarantee they will ask you 'What about Windows Phone?' or 'What about Mobile?'
    MS needs to blitz market this very aggressively to try and combat the ignorance.....and they need to instruct there people making statements to the public to make sure they bring this strategy up in there statement as well so it leaves NO DOUBT in the statement what is really meant.
    At this point for MS, if there is any doubt to a statement being made public, its going to cause negative results for MS from online chats, online forums, online advertising, etc).

    I am not a hater and not a troll, I have been an MS believe since Windows Mobile days and been thru the transitions. Just wish marketing (and statements made by MS people) was a little bit stronger and more clear to the general public.
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    03-31-2016 12:57 PM
  19. rocketboy's Avatar
    I've been with WP since the beginning (HD7) and it's getting really hard to see why Windows Phone/Mobile is needed except by MS.

    I came because I loved the user experience and design direction that spoke of exciting things to come in 2011. Five years later and things are relatively the same - WP is still struggling to keep up. Hardware availability is limited and/or lackluster. Apps are limited (not a big deal to me as personally I use only a few). WP peaked at the 920 release and around 2014.

    I agree with everyone who says that calling out that WM isn't a "priority" signals the end. I saw it coming when the launch of WM10 was disastrously buggy. Up until yesterday I was still looking forward to getting a Surface Phone to replace my 920. But now who knows when that's going to happen (and certainly not this year). I toy with the idea of getting a 950 when the inevitable price drops come (even more). I don't love the idea of going to Android (because I won't do iOS for ...reasons...) but maybe it's time. Maybe it'll be all right. Maybe I can adjust to the fact that Android just still isn't as smooth to interact with as WP (I played with the S7). Maybe it'll suck so much that by the time WM10 gets it's act together I'll be first in line to get a Surface Phone. I can only hope.
    03-31-2016 01:18 PM
  20. broar94's Avatar
    Now that we are on Wp 10, we are not exactly sinking or dying per se. Apps are growing, there will be more support as developers get to Wp10 Store. Wp % is dropping but still MS should recognize there has to be better brand messaging that desktop apps can be made to use on the mobile platform too. IOS/Android are far too strong to fight..
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    03-31-2016 01:31 PM
  21. TheCudder's Avatar
    This is my take on why Microsoft isn't pushing mobile at the moment...

    I think their reasoning is because Windows 10 Mobile could eventually become an attractive phone OS --- and by eventually, I mean long term, like 5 years or longer. And I don't say that to be funny, but as technology matures, Microsoft's continuum concept will become extremely powerful and with their push of UWP apps, Microsoft has a chance to fill their app store with quality apps --- without even asking companies and developers to do it for Windows Phones. Sure these developers still have to target & design a UI for phone, but it will be the same backend code running on all XBOX, PC, Tablets & HoloLens devices. So if you think about it, it's not a bad plan --- Microsoft could potentially indirectly save Windows Mobile.


    Sataya is playing this very well
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    03-31-2016 01:54 PM
  22. Kram Sacul's Avatar
    I must've missed the year when they did focus on Windows Phone.

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    03-31-2016 02:16 PM
  23. Kodiak12's Avatar
    I think some of you are clinging to false hope. I didn't want to believe WM10 was dead but all one needs to do is open their eyes and follow the money (like everything else in life).

    It's done. Over. Kaput.

    I also believe MS has flooded the market with their last bit of phone inventory they were committed to before somebody of consequence finally pulled the plug on future development. No sense sitting on a warehouse full of crap.

    Last December, I chucked my lowly yet coveted 535 and 640 phones. Too many bugs on the software side (what little I could find anyway). Finally went back to my Apple ecosystem and mainstay apps with all their built in maturity and polish which can only be realized over time. Still not fond of the embarrassing iSheep crowd and their undying need to "love" the world's largest corporation but hey... it is what it is.

    Truth be told... I have all my MS apps running smoothly on iOS/OSX many of which seem to run better than their Windows counterparts. A virtual copy of Win10 on the mac takes care of what little I need it for.

    Interesting times indeed.
    03-31-2016 02:26 PM
  24. Lord Method Man's Avatar
    Follwing the standard process for killing off a product:

    1) Consolidate support around "core" users and give up on broad market use.
    - Windows 10 Mobile devices released for WP enthusiasts with little to no marketing for them.

    2) Announce that the platform currently isn't a focus.
    - Myerson's comments yesterday.

    3) Announce the that platform is being discontinued.
    - ???

    RIP WP, glad I jumped ship before things got as bad as they are now.
    03-31-2016 03:48 PM
  25. LUGJUG's Avatar
    Originally posted by Lord Method Man
    Follwing the standard process for killing off a product:

    1) Consolidate support around "core" users and give up on broad market use.
    - Windows 10 Mobile devices released for WP enthusiasts with little to no marketing for them.

    2) Announce that the platform currently isn't a focus.
    - Myerson's comments yesterday.

    3) Announce the that platform is being discontinued.
    - ???

    RIP WP, glad I jumped ship before things got as bad as they are now.
    Then why are you here on this forum too continue if you are so happy you jumped ship then sail away on your new platform and stop spreading unneeded negativity that is completely unfounded it is just your take on reality.
    Last edited by Guytronic; 03-31-2016 at 05:08 PM.
    03-31-2016 04:47 PM
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