04-22-2016 07:51 AM
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  1. Maurizio Troso's Avatar
    User friendshipness? I use everyday the Win10 fast search on apps and settings instead of scrolling for minutes!
    And the Fluo line design that remember Cortana ring is The distinguishing Sign. Like the angel eyes on a Bmw or the devil eyes on an Audi
    In 8.1 I missed the square people tiles :(
    04-10-2016 11:14 AM
  2. EspHack's Avatar
    None of the US carriers have officially rolled out WM10.
    cant blame them this time though...
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    04-10-2016 12:23 PM
  3. pankaj981's Avatar
    cant blame them this time though...
    Ahh well...
    04-10-2016 12:26 PM
  4. slivy58's Avatar
    cant blame them this time though...
    Exactly , just as MS can't be bothered supporting "some" older Lumias what makes it any different for the carriers, way too much time has passed.

    It's been 20+ months since purchasing my 830 and I'll bet dollars to doughnuts it wasn't a big seller for my carrier, chances are slim to none that W10M will see the light of day on it for those two reasons alone.
    04-10-2016 04:12 PM
  5. dlalonde's Avatar
    None of the US carriers have officially rolled out WM10.
    Wait what? What was that big Mass then on March 17th when it was finally released? It was only through the Insider Program?

    What about the Upgrade Advisor? Does that work on all carriers or just some? And where do those upgrades come from, MS directly? So no carrier specific images are used in the US?

    Sorry I've been out of the loop for 6 months.
    04-10-2016 06:32 PM
  6. EspHack's Avatar
    Wait what? What was that big Mass then on March 17th when it was finally released? It was only through the Insider Program?

    What about the Upgrade Advisor? Does that work on all carriers or just some? And where do those upgrades come from, MS directly? So no carrier specific images are used in the US?

    Sorry I've been out of the loop for 6 months.
    kinda like dev prev 2 years ago only this time its supposed to be "official" but its just a special insider ring which launches from another app, all manually, the user has to know and want to do it, a very wise choice I have to say

    maybe next year they can start forcing "upgrades" like they do on pc, cant wait to see how they cut their sd212 phones from rs2 in another round of public outcry, they seem to love the formula, "lets release already obsolete-underpowered devices and then turn the worlds slickest-fastest-smoothest OS ever into an even better lagdroid"
    dlalonde likes this.
    04-10-2016 11:03 PM
  7. kubiaxk's Avatar
    I would love to test 8.1 on a 950!! W10m doesn't seem to utilize the 950/xl to the full potential
    Cant you via registry hack ?
    04-11-2016 05:32 AM
  8. pankaj981's Avatar
    Cant you via registry hack ?
    Absolutely not
    04-11-2016 07:15 AM
  9. Shane Richardson1's Avatar
    I have the Icon, which is essentially the same phone as the 1520. It seems that they will not release an official build for it. I have grown so frustrated with Microsoft's handling of the OS and phones that My next will likely be Android. I just grow weary of their foot shooting. I loved 7.5 with Zune music player, all it needed was apps.
    NMCynthia likes this.
    04-11-2016 08:06 AM
  10. sheldon cohn's Avatar
    I have more then 1 Windows phone, I moved one to Windows 10 insider, while keeping my main phone on Windows 8.1. I then received a Microsoft 950 XL, turned it to insider and it's now got builds that my older
    Windows 10 phone have not received. It seems Microsoft is concentrating on newer phones, and letting older phones on the same build as non insiders. Last week my Windows 8.1 phone was upgraded
    to Windows 10 and it's running smoothly, so far. It's getting app updates, where on Windows 8.1 wasn't getting them. I'm liking the new features on the phone so far, knowing it's going to improve. At times it's hard to be patient waiting for the updates, wishing that things would happen faster.
    04-11-2016 08:47 AM
  11. Per Kjellqvist's Avatar
    I dont really understand what there is not to like about W10M when compared to WP8.1

    I didnt test any of the beta builds, and instead waited for the official update which for my phone (Lumia 640) and carrier (Q-Greece) came a few days ago.

    Having used W10M a few days now, and really trying to test everything in depth, I like pretty much everything about it. Here are a few highlights:

    Much better versions of OneNote, Word, and Excel. They all support password protected files and tabs for example. Other improvements are; consistent file history, similar menus, remembers where I was in OneNote on the other device.

    Several email accounts contained in one version of Outlook (in 8.1 I had 3 Outlook icons).

    I use Groove (and have a subscription) on my PC, and the mobile version is now much improved. I can for example see my songs listed in most recent first order, like I have been doing on my PC for a long time.

    I use 3 different keyboard layouts (English, Swedish, and Greek) and Word-Flow now works in Swedish.

    The settings menu is in my point of view very much improved, and it is great to have expanded quick keys. I dont really care if the slider switches have rounded corners or not. Overall I find it much easier to find what I am looking for with the new settings layout.

    My home screen looks almost identical to the one I had in 8.1 so I dont really see the problem someone reported there. I did however notice that some of my apps which got upgraded to work on W10M now have transparent tiles which actually makes my home screen even nicer than before.

    As far as the hamburger menus go I like them as well. It makes the mobile experience resemble how things work on the desktop a lot more. I totally understand why they went down that route.

    I have not noticed any reduction in speed. In fact, Skype now starts up MUCH faster, and I wouldnt be surprised if other apps do as well.

    For me W10M is just as fluid and smooth as WP8.1. On top of that I also think most apps look nicer (this is of course a matter of personal preference). Outlook and the other Office apps for example now mimic the desktop versions much better and just look cleaner and nicer. The same goes for Groove and several other apps.

    I havent really tested the camera much and am curious to know what some people have reported as being worse with the one on W10M.

    I will for sure not downgrade back to 8.1
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    04-11-2016 11:20 AM
  12. Arid NL's Avatar
    I love winphone 10. But I did roll back to 8.1. I missed that my band worked with all the notifications, as did my wireless charger dt-902. It's little things that you get used to, you miss them when they ate not there. Win 8.1 feels super chunky after 10. Looking forward to a more complete build of 10 for Microsoft :-) still a happy windows fan and love my Band2
    dlalonde likes this.
    04-11-2016 11:26 AM
  13. subliminal ray's Avatar
    There is one app that keeps me from upgrading to W10M and that is Gestures Beta. I just hope they will integrate all of its features in Redstone.
    04-11-2016 04:29 PM
  14. ScubaDog's Avatar
    I'm not moving my 1020 off of WP8.1. I've been testing W10M on a 635 and 640, and mistakenly bought a 950. W10M is a fail in every way, as far as I'm concerned. My 1020 w/WP8.1 is a better experience all around, with only one exception: camera speed. The pictures & video I take from the 1020 are still the best. I can't stand what comes out of the 950 and speed doesn't make up for it. The Start screen on W10M is just horrible, too crowded.
    04-11-2016 07:14 PM
  15. Sankar Raman's Avatar
    After nearly a month of usage of Windows 10 Mobile rolled out by Microsoft on my Lumia 540, i found some pros and cons.

    Pros:
    1. You can change font size.
    2. More color shades added for Start menu.
    3. Faster and long lasting battery backup.
    4. Battery Saver really shows a effect.

    Cons:
    1. Reduced Graphic Rendering. (Lumia 540)
    2. Unstable apps. (Camera, Groove Music, etc)
    3. Unexpected app closing.

    Above issues may be faced only by me, please correct me if anything is wrong and like to give some solutions for issues.
    04-12-2016 12:13 AM
  16. broar94's Avatar
    ^^ There's no app closing in my case nor unstable apps. Do a hard reset and a fresh installation from start :-)

    Id have to agree on graphics, games are slower to play on my 730 especially the intensive ones(fps has reduced!) and time taken to launch a app takes longer . Hopefully this will go away in the next production build, there was this bad vibration for 5 seconds yesterday and phone just restarted :/ wirdly . Ive also noticed that sometimes phone restarts on entering photo gallery upon scrolling alot of images. Other than that it's a stable daily driver for me
    04-12-2016 12:32 AM
  17. dlalonde's Avatar
    I don't know if the firmware has anything to do with it but, when I wrote this post, I had an AT&T phone. In order to get my LTE working, I since then debranded it to put the T-Mobile ROM using the Windows Devide Recovery Tool (and a few hacks) and now, with the official Windows 10 Mobile production release and a hard reset it's working marvelously.
    Maurizio Troso likes this.
    04-12-2016 06:08 AM
  18. Rubidad's Avatar
    After nearly a month of usage of Windows 10 Mobile rolled out by Microsoft on my Lumia 540, i found some pros and cons.

    Pros:
    1. You can change font size.
    2. More color shades added for Start menu.
    3. Faster and long lasting battery backup.
    4. Battery Saver really shows a effect.

    Cons:
    1. Reduced Graphic Rendering. (Lumia 540)
    2. Unstable apps. (Camera, Groove Music, etc)
    3. Unexpected app closing.

    Above issues may be faced only by me, please correct me if anything is wrong and like to give some solutions for issues.
    Font size adjustment: I've found no way the increase the size of the tiny apps menu. Another size observation, the button labels are cut off at the bottom.
    My battery use has at least doubled--battery saver does not help.
    The circle-icons for contacts is just plain ugly, and in no way as classy as the flipping icons (I know, not this again, just as subjective as the additional color/shades on the start screen)
    Notification sounds for email do not work no matter what 'ringtone' is chosen. As a matter of fact, the whole notification thing is very iffy.

    I can tolerate every thing else except for the dramatic increase in battery usage.
    I'm running the insider production on a unlocked Lumia 640 GoPhone. I've been through the settings many times (some can be quite confusing and even contradictory). I've shut off everything I can in the background. I plan to hang on for a week, but if the usage doesn't settle down, I'll be rolling back to 8.1, at least until any desirable W10 apps show up (the primary reason to get W10!)
    04-12-2016 08:15 AM
  19. Joel Zerpa's Avatar
    Personally still use my 820 Lumia because Windows Phone 8.1 has things that to me are essential, it is fast, keyboard works better, some apps do not work at all on Windows 10 Mobile and has offiline voice commands. I also have a 640 LTE Lumia Windows 10 mobile and works very well, but strange the fluidity of Windows Phone 8.1 hopefully the next patch correct speed, voice commands offline and greater compatibility with WP8 apps so use the 640 Lumia as phones main
    04-12-2016 08:16 AM
  20. Kishan's Avatar
    Personally, I am (at least was) a Windows phone fan for its beautiful operating system, its fluidity and transitions. When windows phone 8.1 preview was released, I downloaded it on my Lumia 1320 and it ran buttery smooth with almost no issues. So my first experience with a windows phone preview software was good. Trusting Microsoft to do the same thing again, I installed windows 10 preview on my phone a few updates after its release. Much to my chagrin, none of the apps from my SD card were installed, all my phone apps were wiped out (even the paid ones!) and the Microsoft account somehow didn't know that I had already purchased and installed them before. So re-installing from the store was not possible. Also, photos from my SD card were not showing up in the gallery, my contacts didn't show up and to call anybody, I had to hunt for their number and type it manually. This was my daily driver phone, so it was a big problem. Then I received an update. Thinking that the update might resolve the issues, I set the phone to download it. But to my horror, the update stuck on the screen with the spinning gears! It wouldn't go ahead. I tried to let the battery drain, but no use. Resetting wasn't working either. So finally I had to connect it to my laptop and use the Nokia Tool to recover my phone to factory Windows 8.1 condition. Since then, I've been using Windows phone 8.1
    After all the improvements and builds, I am tempted to put Windows 10 again on my phone (since it wasn't released for the Lumia 1320 in the latest announcements), but i decided against it because it was too much of a risk and hassle if something like that happened again.
    04-12-2016 12:46 PM
  21. monotheist's Avatar
    I am having very bad trouble with the keyboard freezing on my Lumia 930, very unfortunate. Also not sure if there is an official release build for my UK phone. As an ex-MS employee and a WP user since its birth, I am very disappointed the way MS is going, the build i got is very unstable, lots of crashes and Edge keeps hanging up on me. I have to soon take a hard call and leave WP. :(
    04-12-2016 12:55 PM
  22. Maurizio Troso's Avatar
    Just for note:

    http://forums.windowscentral.com/win...ml#post3460296

    Maybe next week will be released to non insiders
    04-12-2016 01:02 PM
  23. broar94's Avatar
    I got the update Maurizio, Im not on insider. Just a few bug fixes notably:
    Fixes duplicate app in background app list
    Groove music fix when screenoff
    Microsoft edge is much better now, I dont get that blank white page now ;-)
    and more..

    I still see they havent fixed an issue where the folder in start screen does not reflect new tile changes within the folder immediately.
    04-12-2016 01:58 PM
  24. dlalonde's Avatar
    Just for note:

    http://forums.windowscentral.com/win...ml#post3460296

    Maybe next week will be released to non insiders
    Apparently it's already the case. I'm on production and I don't have Windows Insider installed at all and I'm getting it as we speak.
    04-12-2016 03:15 PM
  25. pulkit10's Avatar
    Apart from the quirks and the bugs, WM10 is far superior to Windows Phone 8/8.1 in just about every way. I wish the software was polished more and that they'd fix the bloat but it's a step in the right direction.
    dlalonde likes this.
    04-12-2016 03:40 PM
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