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  1. Mark F24's Avatar
    About 20 minutes ago ALL my lost messages miraculously re-appeared!

    Will the normal backup settings eliminate my depending on MS for restoring them?
    04-20-2016 05:15 PM
  2. realwarder's Avatar
    Messages are backed up differently I think, so no.

    It has been flaky recently but hopefully will stabilize. Messages are there but some bugs have been causing issues.
    04-20-2016 05:40 PM
  3. dlalonde's Avatar
    Messages are backed up differently I think, so no.

    It has been flaky recently but hopefully will stabilize. Messages are there but some bugs have been causing issues.
    Yeah I never got my SMS' back. I get SOME if I roll back to 8.1 but on 10 nothing.
    04-20-2016 06:25 PM
  4. Maurizio Troso's Avatar
    Yeah I never got my SMS' back. I get SOME if I roll back to 8.1 but on 10 nothing.
    SOmeone talked about a 3rd app for pc, Windows Phone Message Backup
    It logged to your account and download your sms directly from your OneDrive backup to your pc.
    I'm testing now
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    04-21-2016 02:43 AM
  5. dlalonde's Avatar
    SOmeone talked about a 3rd app for pc, Windows Phone Message Backup
    It logged to your account and download your sms directly from your OneDrive backup to your pc.
    I'm testing now
    Oh nice one! Tell me how it goes.
    04-21-2016 06:04 AM
  6. Maurizio Troso's Avatar
    Oh nice one! Tell me how it goes.
    It's downloading for hours, soo sloooowww... I found messages as old as my first Lumia.

    Now there's to find a way to put them in my spare phone :D
    04-21-2016 06:10 AM
  7. dlalonde's Avatar
    It's downloading for hours, soo sloooowww... I found messages as old as my first Lumia.

    Now there's to find a way to put them in my spare phone :D
    Ha ha ha! Isn't there an app on the store that can put your SMS' from the SD card?
    04-21-2016 08:17 AM
  8. Maurizio Troso's Avatar
    Ha ha ha! Isn't there an app on the store that can put your SMS' from the SD card?
    Sure, Contacts + Messages puts them on SD, so I could looking for that file..
    maybe we are lucky, that's a simple plain text file, so I can merge exported text file of backupped sms, and I got back a 15 thousand sms file back mmmm :D
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    04-21-2016 08:22 AM
  9. Maurizio Troso's Avatar
    Ha ha ha! Isn't there an app on the store that can put your SMS' from the SD card?
    Ok, there are news for now...
    I let my pc downloading sms for hours (so slooow), and app stops to 2015 October messages.
    I found everything since my first Lumia switch on.
    I didn't anything on 2015 November, I got my old faithfull 520 as always in release ring for catching threshold builds
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    04-21-2016 02:52 PM
  10. dlalonde's Avatar
    Ok, there are news for now...
    I let my pc downloading sms for hours (so slooow), and app stops to 2015 October messages.
    I found everything since my first Lumia switch on.
    I didn't anything on 2015 November, I got my old faithfull 520 as always in release ring for catching threshold builds
    I'm definitely going to try it. I just hope you figure out how to import them back ha ha!
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    04-21-2016 03:02 PM
  11. Chintan Gohel's Avatar
    Ok, there are news for now...
    I let my pc downloading sms for hours (so slooow), and app stops to 2015 October messages.
    I found everything since my first Lumia switch on.
    I didn't anything on 2015 November, I got my old faithfull 520 as always in release ring for catching threshold builds
    Mine took a few minutes to download them on the app, though up to December 2015. Maybe you had so many messages? Mine go back 2 and half years, maybe 2000 per year?
    04-22-2016 12:25 PM
  12. dlalonde's Avatar
    Mine took a few minutes to download them on the app, though up to December 2015. Maybe you had so many messages? Mine go back 2 and half years, maybe 2000 per year?
    I got them all but I can't import them back unfortunately.
    04-22-2016 01:16 PM
  13. GrayW0lf's Avatar
    The really strange thing is that my PC on 14328 has successfully sync'd/downloaded all TXTs going really far back in time.. but my phones on the same build do not. They only show "nothing" (1520) or they show those TXTs I have since I realized that I apparently LOST texts since 3/19/2016 (around 4/14/2016 -- this is on my 950XL).

    I'm a tiny bit surprised by the apparent inconsistency here, but I realize this is all still very new in its development/release cycle. So I'll try to be patient and see if the phones sync up with what is on the PC.

    In the meantime: Sending/receiving texts via the PC app is quite a neat feature!
    04-22-2016 01:19 PM
  14. msirapian's Avatar
    I'm the author of the "sms sync is incomplete" feedback in Feedback Hub. I've just read the comments (394 upvotes FTW ^^), and one guy says that when he has added his MSA account as an Exchange hotmail account, then boom, all messages were back in a snap. I haven't succeeded in adding my outlook.com account (MSA) as an extra hotmail exchange one so I can't test it.
    535 and PC (both on Insider Fast) are showing "nothing". They have been disconnected from my MSA, then reconnected (so that PC can see the 535 in options).
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    04-22-2016 02:24 PM
  15. GrayW0lf's Avatar
    I'm the author of the "sms sync is incomplete" feedback in Feedback Hub. I've just read the comments (394 upvotes FTW ^^)
    Awesome! That's good stuff.. now if only they would actually FIX this problem of ours...

    ...one guy says that when he has added his MSA account as an Exchange hotmail account, then boom, all messages were back in a snap.
    Whoever said this was misleading you. You cannot add the same account to the same phone using a different method. Like yourself, I tried this despite the seeming silliness of the idea (hey, if it really DOES work and fixes the issue, then why not...) and the phone complained stating that I could not add an "Exchange" account for an account that already exists on my phone. Oh well.. Nice thought, though!

    Note: I did manage to add the account to the Outlook Mail client on the phone.. but that didn't seem to matter. :)
    Last edited by GrayW0lf; 04-22-2016 at 03:01 PM.
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    04-22-2016 02:48 PM
  16. msirapian's Avatar
    Actually he says adding it as a hotmail account. I've tried with an alias, but then, is it the 2FA or something else, it doesn't sync.

    Here's the comment : wp_ss_20160422_0001.png
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    04-22-2016 02:58 PM
  17. dlalonde's Avatar
    Strangely, after using Windows Phone Message Backup app, my SMS started syncing back to my phone!! It's a Festivus miracle!
    04-22-2016 03:08 PM
  18. GrayW0lf's Avatar
    "I added my ms outlook.com account as a Hotmail exchange account" -- see, that's not really clear. As a test, I created an alias on my @live.com account (which I use as my phone's main Microsoft Account). I then signed into Messaging Everywhere on the 1520 with the alias@outlook.com account. It challenged me for 2FA code from my cell, which I successfully put in and the app just sat there without syncing any messages again

    Otherwise, when you add an account to the phone, you do have the option to add an Exchange/O365 account to your phone and that can/will take your Outlook.com email address and password as a set of logon credentials without a problem (unless the account is already registered as the phone's Microsoft Account -- then it complains that you cannot register the account due to it already existing on the phone).

    So far: no dice on my attempts to work around this problem (though that workaround "sounds" like it makes sense..
    04-22-2016 03:31 PM
  19. msirapian's Avatar
    And that Jon responds to a Rijav who never tipped such a process ; the only Rijav commenting on my feedback says some exchange is needed with a given contact to see its thread restored (exchange as sharing a conversation, and not the Exchange protocol) o_O
    04-22-2016 03:36 PM
  20. GrayW0lf's Avatar
    Strangely, after using Windows Phone Message Backup app, my SMS started syncing back to my phone!! It's a Festivus miracle!
    You are quite lucky, then! I've used that app several times with no change in sync behavior, unfortunately. :(
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    04-22-2016 03:49 PM
  21. GrayW0lf's Avatar
    And that Jon responds to a Rijav who never tipped such a process ; the only Rijav commenting on my feedback says some exchange is needed with a given contact to see its thread restored (exchange as sharing a conversation, and not the Exchange protocol) o_O
    Yeah Jon missed Rajiv's context entirely.

    Rajiv's intention was to use the word "exchange" with the lowercase "e" - not uppercase. "Exchange" (Uppercase E) is a Microsoft email server product (in case you do not know that). In Rajiv's case, he meant that you must send/receive texts to/from a given contact to have the text chain with that person download to your phone.

    I've seen that supposed "workaround" floating on the Internet myself. It's as implausible as it is unlikely. Jon's idea of using a different protocol for syncing data has merit and that's why I'm curious about his steps (and yes, I posted a response comment as "Brent S" on your feedback to ask about those steps).
    04-22-2016 03:52 PM
  22. msirapian's Avatar
    Latest experiments: logging out on 14327 (or above) in Messaging Everywhere deleted all messages, thread by thread. Logging in it again didn't trigger any sync.

    As for Jon's tips, etc. I'm pretty sure all recipes we're reading here and there are pure coincidence.
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    04-22-2016 03:55 PM
  23. GrayW0lf's Avatar
    Latest experiments: logging out on 14327 (or above) in Messaging Everywhere deleted all messages, thread by thread. Logging in it again didn't trigger any sync.
    Yeah I had the exact same experience on my laptop. I upgraded my personal desktop to the latest Redstone build to see if the Messaging Everywhere app on it would "See" my old TXTs.. it does!

    I can send/receive text messages via my 950XL without a problem. The new texts get added to existing threads on the PC but the older SMS on my phone do not show up on PC or vice versa, on my phone.

    In short: Messaging Everywhere is not just "beta" -- it is more like an early alpha. It works, but only kind of.
    04-22-2016 04:18 PM
  24. Maurizio Troso's Avatar
    Yesterday evening, about 22:00 GMT, suddenly messages became slow, and I noticed all old messages were coming back all togheter!
    Someone can confirm it?
    Today I'll try on my spare Lumia, off since one week
    04-23-2016 02:28 AM
  25. GrayW0lf's Avatar
    Yesterday evening, about 22:00 GMT, suddenly messages became slow, and I noticed all old messages were coming back all togheter!
    Someone can confirm it?
    Today I'll try on my spare Lumia, off since one week
    No improvement for me, I'm afraid. It's good that you had your older text messages restored, sir!
    04-23-2016 09:06 AM
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