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  1. cracgor's Avatar
    I'm not just talking about having it on your phone. But at least to be able to convert it to UWP for desktops and have the API adapt to any needs. My argument is if you want to make UWP better than w32 then you need to showcase its power with one of the most complex apps. It can be published for Desktop only. Point is make UWP a worthy successor. Find ways of making these tasks more efficient. UWP isn't only about mobile. There will be things that are best suited for Desktop only and others that are best suited for mobile. This also gives the opportunity to possibly enhance the code to better suit todays hardware. Sure the i7 is powerful but what it photoshop was able to use new chips particularly powerful GPU's to do tasks much quicker. It's always been cpu intensive and the code hasn't really been changed over the years. New features have been added but how much of that is actually optimization. My friend does animation and a lot of different applications will give different results due to optimizations for different GPUs. Sometimes the bottleneck isn't the actual hardware.
    I do understand that there is more to running the software smoothly. I do not understand what the benefit would be to having a UWP from Adobe or Corel's side of the equation. You could make the easier argument that Office 365 should be a UWP app to lead the way.
    05-09-2016 10:23 PM
  2. Krystianpants's Avatar
    I do understand that there is more to running the software smoothly. I do not understand what the benefit would be to having a UWP from Adobe or Corel's side of the equation. You could make the easier argument that Office 365 should be a UWP app to lead the way.
    Yes office 365 should also be UWP. The benefit would be putting more developers into the store and hopefully eliminating the use of W32 over time. And of course as MS works on these things the improvement of the UWP api through experience.
    05-10-2016 09:24 AM
  3. cha0sman's Avatar
    If they were make O365 a UWP, that would pretty much force them to abandon the majority of users that are not on Windows 10.. Think businesses..
    Narathan likes this.
    05-10-2016 02:24 PM
  4. oviedofreak82's Avatar
    Aren't there enough of these threads open about people wanting to go to another OS? Like Rodney King said after he was beaten by LAPD, can't we all just get along? Use what works for you and be happy with your decision.
    Last edited by oviedofreak82; 05-10-2016 at 06:44 PM.
    05-10-2016 03:10 PM
  5. anon(7803270)'s Avatar
    My plan B just happened yesterday, after being a really nice Windows Phone customer for the last 5 years, I finally switched to android, from a 640 LTE to a Alcatel Idol 3 5.5".

    What can I say? Well, It's hard to explain, the app gap is no longer present, no more buggy "beta" apps.

    Don't get my wrong, I'm still in love with Windows Phone. I own a 630 and a 640 and I love those phones, my last 5/6 years have been happy, with windows, spreading the word about how good it was.

    But that's over now. Will I ever use a Windows Phone again? I really really hope so. But maybe in one or two years, at least. Because my life just got easy yesterday after switching to android. And I want that easy life with Windows Phone, deep down is still my fav OS, and It will always be. But not right now. Right now, this OS is far from being in a final stage, is still early beta, and that is not acceptable.

    After so many years, I say goodbye to Windows Phone, and I really hope that one day I can come back to it. :(
    05-11-2016 06:43 AM
  6. Adjaero Pascal's Avatar
    If it's not a nexus then count me out. I am currently using the Nexus 5X and will use it alongside my future HP Elite X3 or a Lumia with similar or better hardware in the near future.
    As for iPhones, I used the 6 plus and 6s for a couple of days and just got tired. Those things are way too expensive for what they offer. Went back to my Nexus 5X

    Posted via the Windows Central App for Android
    05-11-2016 01:50 PM
  7. TgeekB's Avatar
    I'm not someone who's married to one OS or another. I like to try them all. I currently use both WP and Android. Both devices (Moto G 2015 used and a Lumia 640) didn't cost me $200 combined. There's things I like and dislike about both, but since the last couple builds (currently .318) my 640 has been getting a lot more use.
    05-11-2016 06:45 PM
  8. ubizmo's Avatar
    I'm not someone who's married to one OS or another. I like to try them all. I currently use both WP and Android. Both devices (Moto G 2015 used and a Lumia 640) didn't cost me $200 combined. There's things I like and dislike about both, but since the last couple builds (currently .318) my 640 has been getting a lot more use.
    I can relate. I find the 640 screen a little small, and almost picked up a 640xl today for $127. It might happen tomorrow. I don't like everything about the OS but on the whole it's a good experience.
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    05-11-2016 08:49 PM
  9. Ten Four's Avatar
    Because my life just got easy yesterday after switching to android.
    It's rather sad that your smartphone choice means "life just got easy." There's a whole, big, beautiful real world outside the confines of your 5-inch screen. Personally, I watch people struggle every single day to do something on their smartphones, no matter what operating system, that would be far, far easier if they just did it the old fashioned way and used the operating system between their ears: turning on lights, texting someone endlessly when talking to them would be easier, struggling to understand a 5-inch map when a paper map would give you a 36-inch view with better detail, searching for the perfect Yelp review for something when 99% of the reviews are pure bunk, etc., etc.
    05-12-2016 08:53 AM
  10. TgeekB's Avatar
    I can relate. I find the 640 screen a little small, and almost picked up a 640xl today for $127. It might happen tomorrow. I don't like everything about the OS but on the whole it's a good experience.
    How much bigger is the xl?
    05-12-2016 03:00 PM
  11. TgeekB's Avatar
    It's rather sad that your smartphone choice means "life just got easy." There's a whole, big, beautiful real world outside the confines of your 5-inch screen. Personally, I watch people struggle every single day to do something on their smartphones, no matter what operating system, that would be far, far easier if they just did it the old fashioned way and used the operating system between their ears: turning on lights, texting someone endlessly when talking to them would be easier, struggling to understand a 5-inch map when a paper map would give you a 36-inch view with better detail, searching for the perfect Yelp review for something when 99% of the reviews are pure bunk, etc., etc.
    Why did you respond on an Internet forum? Should have written a letter and mailed it to us.
    05-12-2016 03:19 PM
  12. Alain_A's Avatar
    He is right tho
    05-12-2016 03:27 PM
  13. ubizmo's Avatar
    How much bigger is the xl?
    The screen is 5.7", so pretty big. The battery is bigger too.




    Sent from mTalk
    05-12-2016 04:49 PM
  14. T1Cybernetic's Avatar
    I have just grabbed a Nexus 6, I will be keeping my Lumia 1520 unless someone offers me a good price :D But I too am sick of the lack of some apps and games that are available to friends and family :( But not available to me!

    I really do like windows phone but having used a Nexus 6 a few times over the last few months I just have a much better time with friends and family. Almost none of them use windows phone.
    05-12-2016 05:56 PM
  15. ubizmo's Avatar
    I'll say that one thing I miss from Android is the ability to change default apps for various things. On my OnePlus One, when I get an email notification from, say, Windows Central, I can choose to open it in Tapatalk, one time or always. Tapatalk isn't on W10M, but mTalk is a decent substitute. But I can't (as far as I know) get email links to open it. And I can't get to choose a browser other than Edge to open links either.

    If I can do these things, I haven't figured out how.

    But I'm well aware that there are always going to be some things missing or different when I go from one platform to another, so I don't stress over it. Having switched between BB10 and Android for months, I'm fairly numb to such things. I'm still amazed at how well the 640 runs, for a rock-bottom $40 phone. The camera is perfectly fine for my purposes, too. It's simple and straightforward, and it has a nice one-touch auto-enhance button. I have several camera apps on my OnePlus One, each with a plethora of settings, but I think I'm actually getting better photos on my 640.

    So I don't know. BB10 on my Passport is starting to get creaky. No browser update; important apps pulling out; some Android apps getting harder to load and run. It's been around less time than the OnePlus One but is showing its age. The OnePlus One is now my main phone, but in a lot of ways I just find the 640 more fun to use.

    If only they'd bring the Kindle app up to speed.

    So maybe plan B is to get a 640xl and give my aging eyes a break.
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    05-12-2016 06:10 PM
  16. Ten Four's Avatar
    Why did you respond on an Internet forum? Should have written a letter and mailed it to us.
    I responded using my fullsized desktop computer with fullsized keyboard and monitor instead of wasting time and effort struggling to do something on a phone that was meant for mobile communications first! Similarly, I don't attempt to drag my desktop with me when I am walking to work. Use the correct tool for the project and life will be much easier. Many if not most phone apps are a complete waste of time, and there are better ways to accomplish the same thing.
    05-13-2016 04:26 PM
  17. TgeekB's Avatar
    I responded using my fullsized desktop computer with fullsized keyboard and monitor instead of wasting time and effort struggling to do something on a phone that was meant for mobile communications first! Similarly, I don't attempt to drag my desktop with me when I am walking to work. Use the correct tool for the project and life will be much easier. Many if not most phone apps are a complete waste of time, and there are better ways to accomplish the same thing.
    I think you're in the minority but that's ok. Everyone is getting by just fine. Let people use what they like, just like you.
    Laura Knotek and libra89 like this.
    05-13-2016 04:29 PM
  18. abel46's Avatar
    My Plan B was to try an Android device this year. But after tried in the shop I was not convinced.
    So I picked up a Lumia 950 XL that was used. I got it for NOK 3500,- (around 400 USD), and have no regrets so far.
    I hear many people gnag about the missing apps. Which missing apps? I have over 100 apps installed on my Lumia, that does everthing that I have use for.
    I just look at it to get it unlocked, and the most used apps sits on the top of the screen. Less used apps are just a scroll down away. Every mobile I have had has been very responsive all the time. My first WP7 the HTC Racer works just as well as it allways have. The same with my Lumia 920, and 1020 (which has broken screen), and of corse mye Lumia 930 that my wife now use.

    I see new apps pop up in the store on a daily basis, and I can run the same apps on my big gaming laptop. Along with my Vegas Pro and Visual Studio 2015.

    It will be intresting to see in a few years. But I will be surpriced if not Windows has a big part on the mobil marked in 3 years.
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    05-15-2016 04:39 AM
  19. rkarolak's Avatar
    Actually IOS has come a long way from being wall gardened to some what open to other sevices. Since IPhone 6 I haven't looked back or used my android device as my primary device. Since the first iphone I have hated nothing but the email, calendar contacts apps etc. atleast now my biggest issue is solved with outlook email app, google hangouts for my google voice account.

    Stability, 2gb of ram on my iPhone 6s means no more slow downs. I have had used atleast 20-25 android handsets until my last ones samsung s5 and nexus 6, IMO biggest issue about android vendors is they use cheap components to drive costs down like sd ram or flash memory(they deplete after few million reads unlike apples proprietary and high quality ram/flash memory and battery). Thats one reason why android phones crawl or have battery woes after a years usage. Try IOS 9.x and you will never go back to any other device. Smoothness, stability, camera, apps, tight integration with various services, some neat features like safari ad blocker and night shift are welcome additions
    For what it's worth, I don't feel like my opinion has changed with iOS 9. iOS 9 runs better on my (bit dated) Apple devices than iOS 7 or iOS 8, but it's nothing closed to how it ran with iOS 5/6. The services and some customization options have improved, but it's still a pretty locked down ecosystem. If the manufacture doesn't allow you to do what you and fights allowing people to get simple things like root/admin that's where I draw the line. Although, I admit that WP7/8 wasn't much better, but at least there you had some more flexibility with developer tools. Of course, when I think of openness my first thought is of Meego and the Nokia N9, but that was short lived, unfortunately.

    Hardware on Android devices will of course range in cost and quality. A $50 Android Tracfone isn't going to be nearly as good as a Galaxy S7. There are also phones like ones from OnePlus, Meizu, Oppo, and Motorola, which aim to provide the best phone for your money.

    I'm not sure I'll return to an iPhone any time soon, although I find the iPhone SE has most of what I wanted in an iPhone (smaller screen, a bit cheaper, hardware performance to match the other models). It really comes down to what you are looking for. The good thing is there are lots of good choices out there. Neither option is without its drawbacks. Unfortunately that doesn't include Windows Mobile phones for now.
    libra89 likes this.
    06-27-2016 12:29 AM
  20. EspHack's Avatar
    i found my plan B! after carrying an 8 inch asus tablet with cellular data i realized i no longer used my phone at all, this thing fits my pocket somehow and lasts like x4 times more than my phone, and can do soo much more, multitasking like a pro, and none of the mobile limitations you expect from a phone

    so if w10m goes kaput I can just go on with this, dont need a "phone" anymore
    libra89 likes this.
    06-27-2016 01:28 AM
  21. libra89's Avatar
    i found my plan B! after carrying an 8 inch asus tablet with cellular data i realized i no longer used my phone at all, this thing fits my pocket somehow and lasts like x4 times more than my phone, and can do soo much more, multitasking like a pro, and none of the mobile limitations you expect from a phone

    so if w10m goes kaput I can just go on with this, dont need a "phone" anymore
    Wait so you're just going to use the phone for phone calls and text? :o
    06-27-2016 07:30 AM
  22. EspHack's Avatar
    Wait so you're just going to use the phone for phone calls and text? :o
    i dont need a "phone" never really did, mobile pc is what i'm after
    libra89 and Narathan like this.
    06-29-2016 12:40 AM
  23. Narathan's Avatar
    I juggle between an Xiaomi Mi5 and my 950XL. the only real reason I sometimes use the Mi5 is because of the battery-life. Honestly, the SD810 inside the XL transforms my phone into a fireball: it's awesome, looks amazing, but burns your hand and it's useless after it ran out of juices to burn.

    Plan B is definitly getting a Windows mobile with something besides the 810. Really regret buying this phone, but I love the OS, even with all it flaws (that gradually get less every update)
    06-29-2016 09:58 AM
  24. dustkicka's Avatar
    Microsoft won't give up on Windows 10 Mobile mostly because it now requires so little effort to maintain. 90% of the dev is used in the desktop anyway, also true with Universal Apps.

    The problem is mobile hardware. Microsoft appear to have halted everything with Lumia and now all hope rests on Surface Phone or 3rd party companies like HP or Xiaomi.

    So I actually think now is a pretty great time to go to your Plan B. Grab a Nexus 5X or iPhone SE, enjoy Apps for 18 months and see where Microsoft are in mid-2017 with Surface Phone.

    The Missing Apps will come to Windows. I know we joke but they will come purely on the success of Windows 10 (desktop). The install base is already at 300m, there's only so long Snapchat etc can ignore that many users and making one Universal App is a no brainer. This weeks new Facebook, Messenger & Instagram updates are a great nod to future commitments.

    So these next 18 months are a great time to live with Android/iOS, you can always come back next year?
    That's what I did. Put the lumia 930 on ice and bought a note 5 to see me through the next year or so.
    07-02-2016 08:36 AM
  25. jimh12345's Avatar
    Just got a new car, and the fact that it interfaces with iPhone and Android in useful ways really has me thinking about getting an Android. The years go by and MS just lets one phone opportunity after another slip away.
    07-02-2016 03:21 PM
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