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  1. Gregory Newman's Avatar
    Microsoft is pragmatic about Windows smart phones they know for now they wont sell many of them but will stay in the Mobile smart phones business. If I were Microsoft I would tell developers they would get special treatments if they made the kind of Universal apps that will work on a Windows 10 smart phone. some but not all developers and businesses would accept these offers and Windows 10 smart phones would get more Apps. I would also have Microsoft Programmers make Microsoft versions of the most popular apps Microsoft does not have.
    05-02-2016 09:33 PM
  2. dorelse's Avatar
    Plan B: Android.

    I have a Galaxy S6 (128GB) and a Blu Win HD LTE...I had to retreat to the GS6 for the last 2 months as the WM10 upgrade really destabilized my Blu phone.

    Just switched back to the Blu today after the latest insider build has fixed most of the performance & stability issues. Its usable again. I can pretty much bounce between both of them (Android & WM10) without missing a beat as OneDrive syncs all my photos, gmail is my main email & contacts...it all flows just fine.

    I find the flow of WM10 to match my preferences more than the others, so I do hope it continues. The apps I need exist on WM10 and the integration with Exchange for work emails is head & shoulders above anything Mobile Iron is delivering to iOS & Android.
    Last edited by dorelse; 05-03-2016 at 09:12 AM.
    05-02-2016 10:11 PM
  3. Kram Sacul's Avatar
    I'm already on plan B which is stick with WP8/8.1 until MS pulls the plug. W10M is kind of a sad joke at this point, won't go back to Android/Google and iOS is on a different planet.
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    05-02-2016 10:27 PM
  4. David Carrera's Avatar
    Maybe they are spinning such negative news because, by perception of value, they are trying to keep the stock value low so as to buy up as much as possible before 2017, which is when Microsoft will supposedly focus more on Windows mobile and perhaps will start to see a gain in market share (fingers crosses)

    I really don't think Microsoft can afford to kill Windows mobile for the very fact that technology, as it gets more powerful and capable, it also gets smaller which has been the trend since the beginning of computers. For Microsoft to kill windows mobile would be the same as saying no to their own future. I think for the most part, we can consider the constant statements of Microsoft abandoning ship on windows mobile is tantamount to enemy propaganda. No body wants to jump onto a ship that's sinking and if you can't really sink the ship then the next best thing to do is tell everyone that the ship is sinking. This is simply a platform war, and if people think a ship is sinking they're likely to jump ship to one that appears to be floating just fine. The other factor in this is, the naysayers could also have stock in the competitor and as such, risk also falls onto them to protect their investment, risk is no longer with just the competition, it's spread out.
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    05-02-2016 10:53 PM
  5. torsampo's Avatar
    My Plan B goes into effect tomorrow. I have a 950 on the Insider track, which causes a lot of phone instability but I am fine with that as I like Win 10 Mobile. It is the most modern and adult looking mobile OS and the integration with MS services is important to me. The reason I am going to Plan B is my employer is switching to from a MS focused set of services to an all Google For Work one. I could limp along with my 950 and with Gmail and a web browser but I would prefer to be fully connected to G+, Hangouts, Docs, and Drive. While I trust Apple more as a company I am going with Android for a couple reasons. First obviously is tight integration with Google services. Second is that on Android if I want to swap out a default service for a MS service I can do that, while on iOS i am stuck in wack-a-mole app land. I know support of my personal MS services will be second-rate but there is at least the opportunity to expand that integration. Paul Thurrott has even written up the expanded linking between Android and Win10 notification centers, which I would like. So tomorrow my Nexus 6p arrives and Plan B goes into effect. I am not super happy about it, but Android will at least give me customization options iOS never will.
    05-02-2016 11:11 PM
  6. Keith Wallace's Avatar
    I don't trust Google, and I will NEVER choose to own an Apple device. I'd probably just stop getting new phones, instead keeping the last WM device released. Gun to my head between the alternatives, I'd take Android, but I'd be a minimalist with the device because I wouldn't throw personal information into Google's coffers.

    But seriously, I'd sooner stop carrying ANY phone whatsoever before I got something of Apple's. They are probably #1 on my list of companies I'd like to see fall into a volcano.
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    05-02-2016 11:54 PM
  7. Jazmac's Avatar
    If for any reason Microsoft decides to completely shut off it's phone division, every single app disappears off the Store, and my phone breaks, I'd pick up a BlackBerry Priv. I've held the phone before, looks and feels top notch, and I've used Android before, so setup would be fairly quick. That keyboard works like a charm, kind of miss using it on a daily basis... Never an iPhone. Just no.

    But I have a Lumia Icon. The chances of that breaking are fairly slim...
    I do not yet believe Microsoft is getting out of the mobile phone game. I think they know they are going to have to do something bold and radical with their mobile game. I look at the current OS and it is really developing into something extraordinary and at some point, we will get word that Surface or whatever this will be called is coming. Those using plan B haven't left. Plan B means just that. We'll get leaks and sneak peeks and all those of us that are using "plan B" will flock back to plan A like we never left.
    Its my belief anyway.
    05-03-2016 12:18 AM
  8. sumton's Avatar
    Plan B: im already in plan B switched to android but i do NOT like this plan
    Plan C: switch back to WM IF surface phones impressive enough to make me jump back
    Plan D: switch to IOS

    we will see next year
    05-03-2016 12:25 AM
  9. 497362's Avatar
    Plan A - stay with my old WP8.1 which just works and does what i need. accept absence of future updates.
    Plan B - budget WM10.
    Plan C - keep an eye on Tizen
    Plan D - due to dementia, forget how awful android is and switch to android.
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    05-03-2016 12:50 AM
  10. travis_valkyrie's Avatar
    Plan B is to buy a BlackBerry Nexus (if it ever happens, or Priv equivalent) and just fork android. I wouldn't mind building the updates myself if I have to, at least I'll know what goes in and what goes out. The original plan B is to go all-out iPhone, but since it's so expensive and it puts my 200GB microSD card to waste, thought I go a different route and make it work the way I want it to. But if WM10 is still a thing then I have no plans switching until then.
    05-03-2016 01:14 AM
  11. slyronit's Avatar
    Here's Paul spreading more gloom, this time predicting the death of Windows and x86
    05-03-2016 01:51 AM
  12. zicoz's Avatar
    At the moment I am pretty happy with my 950XL, and I am happy to stay with WP as long as the OS is usable, if that stops. I might switch to something crazy like Jolla if they ever come out with a new phone. But if my only choices are Android or IOS I will probably go with IOS, simply because they, like MS, seem to be pro-consumer by standing up against the government. The only downside is their prices, but Android/WP-phones have had a price hike recently as well, so it isn't as bad anymore.

    My second choice would be a non-Google-Android, but not sure if that exists in the west.
    05-03-2016 02:13 AM
  13. Pete's Avatar
    I don't need a Plan B when Plan A is working so well for me.

    I don't really think much of Paul's editorial there. He's overlooking the fact that hybrid laptops are becoming more popular than tablets and that Android/Apple tablets are little more than really big phones (without the phone). He also overlooks the corporate world.

    As always, people seem to be blinkered into the "market share" view. Microsoft is providing customers with ways of doing stuff - Windows 10 is good at doing stuff. If people don't want to do stuff the Microsoft way, then they can choose something else (where Microsoft happens to provide ways of helping people do stuff as well).
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    05-03-2016 02:18 AM
  14. medvid's Avatar
    My Plan B is IPhone SE
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    05-03-2016 02:51 AM
  15. Per Kjellqvist's Avatar
    Here's Paul spreading more gloom, this time predicting the death of Windows and x86
    Absolutely agree. The fact that Paul is predicting the end of WM means nothing to me. He has been wrong with virtually everything relating to Microsoft and Windows for the last 5 years or so. I don't really understand what goes on in his head.

    The media, so called "pundits", and the general public have never been able to think a few steps into the future. Microsoft have now to 90% (or so) completed what both Apple and Google will at one stage also have to do, namely integrating mobile and desktop into the same OS. Why on earth would you want to keep two OS's when we know with a 100% certainty that processors with the capacity of todays most powerful desktop machines will very soon fit into devices the size of mobile phones. Microsoft have done the right thing at three major levels: One OS for all devices, Software that runs on all platforms (including the web), and Investing in Cloud technology. Google has a chance to catch up, but Apple are so far behind I think they will be just a memory in 5-10 years time.

    I am not spending any energy thinking of a plan B for two reasons 1) I am really happy with what I have. I have a Lumia 640 running Windows 10 and for me it is great on all levels, and as an added bonus it is also dirt cheap, and 2) With one OS for all devices how can Windows Mobile possibly go away? It just can't happen.
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    05-03-2016 02:56 AM
  16. Great deal's Avatar
    Perhaps a mobile rename is needed...Reboot 4.0..they can go far with this. Kidding aside I think one thing the OP said I cant see happening, the likes of FB etc leaving W10. The reason UWP apps exist is that the mobile versions are easy to develop for. Yes the amarket share is an abysmal 1% and that is 100% Microsofts fualt for a number of reasons. When that % increases so will the number of apps being launched for windows same time as Apple and Android. People are just fed up with the waiting, I know I am. I will however give the X3 a good look however, Microsoft knew the X3 was coming and yet still chose to say mobile is not a priority this year, this makes me feel a tad sorry for HP, they must be thinking that if the creator and partner doesnt give a ****, why are we pushing thier products and services.

    Windows mobile is not dead yet...MS can sell nothing from today and it will still have a pulse in 10 years time. Anyhow..thank you Microsoft for taking me out of the yearly mobile upgrade loop we can get caught up in.
    05-03-2016 03:21 AM
  17. t8ntlikly's Avatar
    I recently made the jump from my HTC on Verizon to a Galaxy 7 Edge. What I miss to most, are the live tiles, and to be honest Outlook on Android is awful, as is the calendar. No Comparison to the Outlook Mail was on my W10 HTC. AND! There are NO Xbox games on Android as well. I Want my W10 Mobile back
    05-03-2016 03:23 AM
  18. justforsabbath's Avatar
    Of what all rumors these past few days about the death of W10 Mobile has been disappointing. And if it happens it would be a sad end to a very promising OS. Microsoft shouldn't give up on it's mobile strategy easily because I feel that Smartphone industry is saturating and companies don't really know what next can you do expect improve the hardware specs. Currently its mostly used for data consumption.

    Microsoft needs to push one last time and introduce their Surface phone with full Windows 10 capability where you can just connect your device to a bigger screen and there you go you have a full featured win32 enabled OS. Hope Microsoft is listening to its fan base.
    05-03-2016 03:24 AM
  19. mkKozak's Avatar
    OneDrive integration.did you even try OneDrive on android device- their android app is miles a head compared to abandoned windows phone 8.1 app.

    Also outlook uwa on android is miles a head compared to windows 10 and dead 8.1
    I tried. You're totally wrong. They are different, yes. But none of them is better.
    05-03-2016 03:49 AM
  20. trha's Avatar
    I don't see any need for plan B. If Microsoft kills WM, what's the point of pushing UWP anyway?
    05-03-2016 04:45 AM
  21. ThePyrobri's Avatar
    They said 'Mobile' is not a priority as in hardware, they are not bothering with hardware this year, they are however doing a hell of a lot with Windows 10 which covers mobile devices also including HPs.
    In fact having third parties create the actual hardware is exactly what MS wants, they want to create reference type devices, like surface and then their partners take that idea and run with it.
    05-03-2016 04:46 AM
  22. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    3) (this is for the above poster) outlook on android being cluttered does not necessarily make it superior. I've used it on a Nexus 5X and as powerful or feature rich it may be, Doze completely kills off the experience by delaying notifications and frequent slow downs at cost of battery improvements..something WM excels in.
    Just FYI, you can take apps out of Doze if you wish to.

    My two cents on this is I'm already on plan B (Android) and I'm waiting to see what happens with W10M. At the moment, Android works for me but I feel I'm a bit of a different user than some people so to each their own.

    I personally don't see W10M being discontinued, more like a niche product like it's always been. We can't see the future so who knows what's coming?

    According to some articles on this site it would appear smartphones are dying so let's see...
    Last edited by N_LaRUE; 05-04-2016 at 03:39 AM.
    05-03-2016 05:15 AM
  23. Sensonic's Avatar
    No, I refuse to try anything Google, although I agree that feature-wise, Android is a closer replacement to Windows Mobile than iOS is; not sure of these apps.

    Plus Google is evil.
    My plan B is this one: Zopo Speed 8 is the Cheapest Top Performing Smartphone in the World! | ZOPO Mobile Official | Android Smartphones

    Microsoft announced me two weeks ago that they're gonna cut down my OneDrive storage space from 30GB to 5GB. That was the last drop for me. Plus they won't come up with flagship phone models in the near future. IMO they've lost the game.

    Edit: yeah, and about that "Google is evil" and "why to purchase those Chinese phones":
    -almost every phone model manufactured nowadays is coming from China, whether it's a brand phone or not. So what's the point saying "why to purchase those Chinese phones?" They don't have any brand related additional price on them, like Samsung and iPhone.
    -Google is evil? C'mon, IMO Apple is evil. Their iPhone is spreading like a cancer, they ask money for some of their services and their phones cost truckloads of money. Who's the evil one? Won't touch an iPhone ever, I'd rather go to Android...

    If I were a mobile phone developer @ Microsoft, I'd try to develop and release a dual booting phone with Android and Windows. Now Microsoft is targeting their Lumia phones for business use but if they'd have dual booting phone(s) in their model range, they'd try to convince the potential customers to purchase the phone and use its Windows for their business and its Android for personal use. And if I remember correctly, they have a patent for that dual booting OS.
    05-03-2016 05:33 AM
  24. Queen Kong1's Avatar
    Android never IOS.....Android own %100 market share... I cant understand why people dislike it.....its changed a lot now.......... I love the choices with Apps!!! Using this one atm has an awesum theme.. makes me want to jump f/time.. https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...lous.app&hl=en The more I look at Windows 10 on mobile, i just see the computer........I want something different for a phone experience. I have a cheapy Windows 10 to play with and my Samsung as my main driver...But i like to check in and peek if anything is mind blowing which hasn't happened for a year lol. I asked a few developers of my fav App this week regarding WPs and both said no!!! to much work!! bit dismal really
    05-03-2016 05:36 AM
  25. Maurizio Troso's Avatar
    My plan B is this one: Zopo Speed 8 is the Cheapest Top Performing Smartphone in the World! | ZOPO Mobile Official | Android Smartphones

    Microsoft announced me two weeks ago that they're gonna cut down my OneDrive storage space from 30GB to 5GB. That was the last drop for me. Plus they won't come up with flagship phone models in the near future. IMO they've lost the game.

    They warned by mail for month since last summer about that, giving everyone the choice for stayin with 15 GB ( + 15 GB Roll bonus)
    05-03-2016 05:38 AM
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