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  1. Abdul9's Avatar
    I think we have two or three kind of people here is the difference. People that get excited about every update and could care less about the bugs cos they're expecting more. People that are neutral. And people like me that are fed up of having to expect bug fixes for the most basic features or that find some bugs plain unacceptable. Now here's the question, who here would tell me that WM10 as at all ready for release when they released it with the l950xl? Well I can tell you it wasn't and still isn't. I'm just fed up with lag on a device that has more cores and speed than the l1520 I used to use and when I compare both, it would seem my l950xl is the inferior product.
    05-10-2016 04:21 PM
  2. Narathan's Avatar
    I have to agree that W10M wasn't ready when they released the 950 series, I actually returned my 950 after a month and used my M8 with the insider build. That actually ran decent. But nowadays I'm pretty happy with W10M as a whole - the only thing that reall nags me is that the voice recorder stops once the screen turns off! Messed up a few interviews (third party apps work just fine, seriously MS?).

    I've a 950XL now as well and while I'm not experiencing lag/performance issues of the sorts, I do have a speaker that hisses and pops, and a creaky backplate (fixed it with ductape on the inside). That really shouldn't be on a phone this expensive...

    In terms of fit & finish, It definitly can't top my good old M8 - that thing was amazing craftmanship. Not that I hate my 950XL, it just doesn't feel/look like a flagship device, even with a mozo cover (although that helps a ton!).

    I'm looking forward to the X3 or something that resembles the M8. Till then, I'll be flaunting my 950XL with orange cover!
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    05-10-2016 04:54 PM
  3. Tien-Lin Chang's Avatar
    Nope, my w10m works great on my 1020. fast, smooth, great battery life. lollipop on my s2x and note 1 were horrid slow, laggy had to charge in 4 hrs and most of the time just LOCKED up. Big difference in my android phones with both stock and custom and my w10m running 242.
    Well the i9100 running CM12 should be like this, very smooth and responsive than those more-powerful QCom S4 equipped 1st gen WP8 devices on WP8.1/W10M



    However I read those US carrier variants (I777 for AT&T/T989 for T-mobile) are having more troubles adapting 3rd party ROMs than the universal version (i9100) so I'm guessing that might be your case.

    Similar situation in ATIV S, the universal version (i8750) are easily hacked and adapting w10m than those carrier variants.
    05-10-2016 10:38 PM
  4. pettor's Avatar
    I have the same experience as OP. I am using a 930 and it's a crippled device filled with bugs, lag, resume screens and crashes! I love WP8.1 but this is far from it. Tried resetting The phone 2 times and it usually work good the first days but then just becomes the same mess. I don't enjoy using the phone anymore :(

    Some issues I have:
    - Phone resetting about 3 times per week on average.
    - Rich capture camera contains artifacts (about 3 red lines on the final picture) which makes it useless.
    - Soooo slow. WP8.1 was just a lot faster.
    - Battery life is basically down to recharge twice every day and the phone can sometimes get very hot without getting cold again for a long time (without doing anything).
    - Can't use speaker mode for calls.
    - Audio recording doesn't work.
    - Edge crashes everytime I try to Google (from the url field) using multiple words (searching for "cat" works but "mad cat" will crash the browser).
    - The previously opened app is often gone from the "opened apps" window.
    - (Not really WM fault) Spotify app is so bad I will soon go mad.
    - DON'T remind me that the audio level can damage my hearing for the 100000th time.

    Except for Spotify app and Audio level notifications none of the others existed when using WP8.1. The speaker mode for calls and being able to record audio stopped to work the second I upgraded.

    And maybe this seems strange, but somehow the "fun" is gone. Previously I had no issue with the "app gap" because the OS was such a joy to use. The home screen was a mini-game by itself and everything was so fast, smooth, beautiful, snappy and just transitioned in a nice way. Now it really feels like a desktop OS somehow.

    I do believe they can get WM10 on the right path again, but I will wait for that. Android is finally good enough to use for me and therefore I will be using that until I hear more satisfaction from WM. Lumia 1020 is such a good memory and I think that will be my favorite phone experience for a long long time.

    I should also say that on my Surface computer Windows 10 is a pure bliss to use. Love it!
    Last edited by pettor; 05-11-2016 at 01:36 AM.
    05-11-2016 12:01 AM
  5. Lagur's Avatar
    My L1320 with .242 is very stable in my opinion.

    Now observing .318, so far the experience is the same but I hope to see some improvements.

    Reliability, performance and stability improvements.
    Fix for a problem that could result in unexpected battery drain while the phone screen is off.
    Fix for a problem that could result in the phone to hang or restart when visiting certain web pages in Microsoft Edge.
    05-11-2016 12:52 AM
  6. h3n4's Avatar
    I couldn't agree more with OP and some here. I use a Lumia 930 running W10M build 10.0.10586.318 (updated just an hour ago, so no experience on that). The .218 build was a steaming mess, though. I had severe reliability issues with my Camera app, Edge, Cortana search, Maps, Navigation, 9Gag, etc. The apps would crash and I'd get the resume screen. Especially bad was the Camera app when I tried to fire up the camera with the camera button: the app would almost always crash. That would happen virtually every time I needed to take a quick photo and when other people were present (Super embarrassing thing to have happen...).

    Not to mention battery life which is so bad that I have to keep my phone on charger during my workdays just to get me through to the evening when I attach the charger before bed. The battery saver just doesn't help at all. No way can I go out at night and expect my phone to be usable when coming back home.

    My W10M experience so far has been so bad, that I'm really considering changing platforms. I find this exceptionally bad being a die-hard Windows Phone user (and a fanboy) ever since WP7. WP8.1 was really good, fast, fluid, reliable, but W10M is not.

    Just please make it work, I wish I could be a W10M user in the future as well.

    And no one tell me to buy a new phone, or just "live with it". The experience is just too bad and it needs to be fixed.
    05-11-2016 02:16 AM
  7. Grant Taylor3's Avatar
    I have had my 1020 running Windows 10 Mobile since the start. Once the release version came out I have only ever had to reset it once and that was with the .218 update. I had t ok revert it to 8.1then upgrade again to Windows 10 Mobile.

    Last night my 1020 upgraded to .318 with no issues as did my 950.

    My 640 is happily running the latest Windows 10 fast ring build without any drama.
    05-11-2016 02:16 AM
  8. pettor's Avatar
    I couldn't agree more with OP and some here. I use a Lumia 930 running W10M build 10.0.10586.318 (updated just an hour ago, so no experience on that). The .218 build was a steaming mess, though. I had severe reliability issues with my Camera app, Edge, Cortana search, Maps, Navigation, 9Gag, etc. The apps would crash and I'd get the resume screen. Especially bad was the Camera app when I tried to fire up the camera with the camera button: the app would almost always crash. That would happen virtually every time I needed to take a quick photo and when other people were present (Super embarrassing thing to have happen...).

    Not to mention battery life which is so bad that I have to keep my phone on charger during my workdays just to get me through to the evening when I attach the charger before bed. The battery saver just doesn't help at all. No way can I go out at night and expect my phone to be usable when coming back home.

    My W10M experience so far has been so bad, that I'm really considering changing platforms. I find this exceptionally bad being a die-hard Windows Phone user (and a fanboy) ever since WP7. WP8.1 was really good, fast, fluid, reliable, but W10M is not.

    Just please make it work, I wish I could be a W10M user in the future as well.

    And no one tell me to buy a new phone, or just "live with it". The experience is just too bad and it needs to be fixed.
    Wow I hear you! Exact same experience and both seems to be using 930.

    But the "live with it" simply doesn't work for the current experience I have. The phone can be used and maybe forced to lived with, but that's all.
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    05-11-2016 03:28 AM
  9. Stef8600's Avatar
    Yeah, the average non-forum browsing user won't know to do a Reset after upgrade.
    The average non-forum browsing user won't even know how to get W10M on their device!
    05-11-2016 04:47 AM
  10. Suman943's Avatar
    Which device are you using??
    05-11-2016 08:00 AM
  11. RumoredNow's Avatar
    The average non-forum browsing user won't even know how to get W10M on their device!
    Blogs often show "hacks" with no follow up on treating symptoms. IMHO, blog crawling leads many astray.
    Steve Adams likes this.
    05-11-2016 10:06 AM
  12. uselessrobot's Avatar
    I've had my 950 from launch. Early on I did a factory reset and while it helped with Bluetooth connectivity it didn't address many problems. The various updates over the past 6+ months have helped smooth things out, especially the firmware update from several months back.

    That said, problems do persist. Restarting apps often doesn't work properly, even with Microsoft's own apps. For example, Weather refuses to load any content and Health will hang on a blank screen. I have to close the app and restart it. I had the camera app fail on me yesterday. It's not the first time this has happened, but this is the first time I got a message telling me it couldn't access the camera and prompting me to restart the phone.

    And the one thing I always bring up, because it's been the most frustrating, is how Bluetooth connectivity has never worked properly with my Band. For a long time all I could do with it is sync fitness data. The firmware update improved things considerably, but it's still inconsistent and unreliable. At this very moment, my Band is still displaying last night's temperature. I shouldn't have to open the Health app to ensure a proper update.

    On top of all that, the OS still doesn't feel as smooth and responsive as WP8.1 did on my 920. Yeah, I can see that the device is more powerful, but the OS just doesn't feel quite as fluid. There's so much sloppiness abound.
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    05-11-2016 11:07 AM
  13. atuarre's Avatar
    Keep telling you guys that when Nadella took over Microsoft, he gave the impression several times that I didn't not care for the Windows Phone mobile or Xbox divisions.
    azilgath likes this.
    05-11-2016 11:25 AM
  14. Steve Adams's Avatar
    Well the i9100 running CM12 should be like this, very smooth and responsive than those more-powerful QCom S4 equipped 1st gen WP8 devices on WP8.1/W10M



    However I read those US carrier variants (I777 for AT&T/T989 for T-mobile) are having more troubles adapting 3rd party ROMs than the universal version (i9100) so I'm guessing that might be your case.

    Similar situation in ATIV S, the universal version (i8750) are easily hacked and adapting w10m than those carrier variants.
    I have the same result on my Gnote that I do on my s2x. both phones running lollipop are laggy, slow, and freeze up needing constant reboots. I was using my note until my replacement screen came in and it was so aggravating. I would love to have both return to stock rom, but Neither will download the stock rom anymore.
    05-11-2016 01:14 PM
  15. RumoredNow's Avatar
    [NOTE]Discussions of 3rd party Android ROMs for legacy Samsung devices has really gone off-topic for a thread entitled: What has happened to Windows 10m?[/NOTE]
    05-11-2016 01:19 PM
  16. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    For some really powerful hardware (950 XL), there still a fair amount of resuming screens on windows 10 mobile, especially with syncing to the band 2...
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    05-11-2016 01:21 PM
  17. EspHack's Avatar
    For some really powerful hardware (950 XL), there still a fair amount of resuming screens on windows 10 mobile, especially with syncing to the band 2...
    and yet somehow people here need more proof than that to accept w10m is a mess, it just so happens that a sd810 can hide most of it through raw performance
    Jason Rosenthal and a5cent like this.
    05-11-2016 11:52 PM
  18. tushardhingra's Avatar
    For some really powerful hardware (950 XL), there still a fair amount of resuming screens on windows 10 mobile, especially with syncing to the band 2...
    Windows 10 Mobile on my BLU Win HD LTE is running like a charm...no resuming screens whatsoever and it has SD 410
    05-12-2016 12:17 AM
  19. BonzeUK's Avatar
    Originally posted by MSFTisMIA
    For some really powerful hardware (950 XL), there still a fair amount of resuming screens on windows 10 mobile, especially with syncing to the band 2...
    What version of W10 are you using?
    What do you mean by 'syncing to the band 2' ? do you mean through MS Health?
    05-12-2016 04:03 AM
  20. RonWesley's Avatar
    I am using window 10. I feel good to use it. Windows 10 Mobile aims to provide greater consistency with its counterpart for personal computers, including more extensive synchronization of content, a new universal application platform that allows one app to run on multiple Windows 10 devices such as PCs, mobile devices and Xbox, as well as the capability, on supported hardware, to connect devices to an external display and use a "PC-like" interface with mouse and keyboard input support.
    05-12-2016 05:11 AM
  21. Chintan Gohel's Avatar
    I couldn't agree more with OP and some here. I use a Lumia 930 running W10M build 10.0.10586.318 (updated just an hour ago, so no experience on that). The .218 build was a steaming mess, though. I had severe reliability issues with my Camera app, Edge, Cortana search, Maps, Navigation, 9Gag, etc. The apps would crash and I'd get the resume screen. Especially bad was the Camera app when I tried to fire up the camera with the camera button: the app would almost always crash. That would happen virtually every time I needed to take a quick photo and when other people were present (Super embarrassing thing to have happen...).

    Not to mention battery life which is so bad that I have to keep my phone on charger during my workdays just to get me through to the evening when I attach the charger before bed. The battery saver just doesn't help at all. No way can I go out at night and expect my phone to be usable when coming back home.

    My W10M experience so far has been so bad, that I'm really considering changing platforms. I find this exceptionally bad being a die-hard Windows Phone user (and a fanboy) ever since WP7. WP8.1 was really good, fast, fluid, reliable, but W10M is not.

    Just please make it work, I wish I could be a W10M user in the future as well.

    And no one tell me to buy a new phone, or just "live with it". The experience is just too bad and it needs to be fixed.
    Hope you will post your experience while using .318 build in a couple of days to see if your phone works better.

    Did you upgrade from windows phone 8.1 and just continue like that? Or have you done a hard reset at any point?
    05-12-2016 05:17 AM
  22. Gabriel Ortiz1's Avatar
    It seems like the term "Lagdroid" is more suitable to Windows 10 Mobile from now on.
    The more l use the new OS the worse the experience l get. Apps crashes more often, device always runs out of memory, the 'resuming' symptom is never ending, and why in the bloody hell that all apps that I've already closed keeps coming back when l press the back button.

    To make matters worse, this isn't the Preview that I'm using. Anyone who doesn't have many experience with windows or even l who's been a WP user for years find it frustrating as if l am using a beta version.
    I absolutely agree. I've gone through four different windows phones and each new upgrade brings more frustration. When it works, it's great. Unfortunately, more often than not, apps crash, load very slowly, freeze up, continuously. I've tried every sort of troubleshooting method and im also not using a preview build. I shouldn't have to reset to factory every time the phone craps out. Now, I hate Iphones and I'm not a fan of android, but neither of thos OS's have this many problems. I just wish msft would get their act together already. I.men, come on! It's been long enough.
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    05-12-2016 10:03 AM
  23. constantreader16's Avatar
    Just hoping in with some thoughts here. I know everyone likes to pull the "grass is greener on the other side" with Android, but it's not 100% perfect over there. I have a Nexus 6 that I used for about 6 months before getting my Lumia 950 XL and still use on occasion for a few specific apps. Apps lock up on it, the device gets low or laggy, I can't resume apps from the task list, some of that stuff just happens and it's neither Microsoft's nor Google's fault (Although sometime it is).

    I've personally never really had anywhere near the issues that any one else seems to have on my 950 XL and it's been my daily driver since November (I am however looking forward to the HP Elite x3!). The exception to that is that I'm on the Redstone Insider branch and the last 3-4 builds have been almost frustrating unstable at various times, but that's also to be expected when you using beta software. I saw over the first few months major improvements in the 10586 builds (part of me almost regrets jumping to the Redstone builds so soon due to their occasional stability issues).

    One of the things I did make sure to do early one was to basically start over with my 950 XL. That seems to have helped and on one occasion I did have to do a full reset on my phone, but after that I noticed performance was so much better. I'd expect the mobile version of Windows 10 ending up very stable sometime soon as it took until about this point on the desktop version to hit a very nice sweet spot.
    05-12-2016 11:00 AM
  24. constantreader16's Avatar
    I've also been using Continuum A LOT more lately and that is one hell of an experience actually. I wish more apps supported it, but it's nice to see some social networks and most of the Windows Apps working with it and working well now!!
    05-12-2016 11:55 AM
  25. snakebitten's Avatar
    Why do all you keep asking for a hard reset? Is W10M such a bad OS that requires a Hard Reset every update? That does not happen on desktop version. Whatever...
    It's true that upgrading the desktop does not "require" a hard reset.....but just like with these mobile devices, there is a performance advantage for doing so. With ANY OS on ANY device, it is just logical that a clean install gets better results than an upgrade.

    It's the nature of the process itself.
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    05-12-2016 02:23 PM
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