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  1. mcvmcv's Avatar
    Why is Windows 10 mobile so bad? It is so unreliable. Used Windows mobile for around a year, and I'm sure it's going to be my last.

    Had Windows 8 on my Lumia for around six months, it seemed fine. Updated to 10 once it came out of beta. I avoided the beta versions as I didn't want the problems, I have better things to do with my time. It still looks like it's in beta.

    The bugs pick the worst possible time to appear, and Microsoft just don't seem to care. Even the Feedback app is bad. I've been trying to give it time to get it's act together but it gets worse.

    I use the phone for calls, texts, emails, calendar, music, skype, weather, notes, and it's all become a bad experience. Cannot believe Microsoft are trying to pass this off as a mobile platform.

    Calls, the dialler is badly designed, bad layout for common actions, dial-pad is slow .
    Texts, how to I display the number I'm texting?
    Emails, cannot reply. Zoom sometimes just blurs screen. App fails to open, needing a restart.
    Calendar, Some new items disappear if I lose a data connection, without warning.
    Music, Mix Radio is gone.
    Skype, Keeps ringing once call answered.
    Weather, the Live Tile just does what it feels like.

    Fed up with it all.
    The quality of some software is terrible. Why bother. Is it that bad a company to work for?
    Windows Mobile is not going to be around for long.
    mikepalma, flitchtag, v535 and 3 others like this.
    05-21-2016 09:44 PM
  2. Chintan Gohel's Avatar
    Why is Windows 10 mobile so bad? It is so unreliable. Used Windows mobile for around a year, and I'm sure it's going to be my last.

    Had Windows 8 on my Lumia for around six months, it seemed fine. Updated to 10 once it came out of beta. I avoided the beta versions as I didn't want the problems, I have better things to do with my time. It still looks like it's in beta.

    The bugs pick the worst possible time to appear, and Microsoft just don't seem to care. Even the Feedback app is bad. I've been trying to give it time to get it's act together but it gets worse.

    I use the phone for calls, texts, emails, calendar, music, skype, weather, notes, and it's all become a bad experience. Cannot believe Microsoft are trying to pass this off as a mobile platform.

    Calls, the dialler is badly designed, bad layout for common actions, dial-pad is slow .
    Texts, how to I display the number I'm texting?
    Emails, cannot reply. Zoom sometimes just blurs screen. App fails to open, needing a restart.
    Calendar, Some new items disappear if I lose a data connection, without warning.
    Music, Mix Radio is gone.
    Skype, Keeps ringing once call answered.
    Weather, the Live Tile just does what it feels like.

    Fed up with it all.
    The quality of some software is terrible. Why bother. Is it that bad a company to work for?
    Windows Mobile is not going to be around for long.
    Try a hard reset
    05-21-2016 11:36 PM
  3. EspHack's Avatar
    Why is Windows 10 mobile so bad? It is so unreliable. Used Windows mobile for around a year, and I'm sure it's going to be my last.

    Had Windows 8 on my Lumia for around six months, it seemed fine. Updated to 10 once it came out of beta. I avoided the beta versions as I didn't want the problems, I have better things to do with my time. It still looks like it's in beta.

    The bugs pick the worst possible time to appear, and Microsoft just don't seem to care. Even the Feedback app is bad. I've been trying to give it time to get it's act together but it gets worse.

    I use the phone for calls, texts, emails, calendar, music, skype, weather, notes, and it's all become a bad experience. Cannot believe Microsoft are trying to pass this off as a mobile platform.

    Calls, the dialler is badly designed, bad layout for common actions, dial-pad is slow .
    Texts, how to I display the number I'm texting?
    Emails, cannot reply. Zoom sometimes just blurs screen. App fails to open, needing a restart.
    Calendar, Some new items disappear if I lose a data connection, without warning.
    Music, Mix Radio is gone.
    Skype, Keeps ringing once call answered.
    Weather, the Live Tile just does what it feels like.

    Fed up with it all.
    The quality of some software is terrible. Why bother. Is it that bad a company to work for?
    Windows Mobile is not going to be around for long.
    that's my summary of w10 as a whole, not only on mobile, it just isn't the same
    05-22-2016 01:51 AM
  4. Draganta's Avatar
    Did you do a factory reset after the update to 10? Otherwise just roll back to 8.1, it solved many problems on my mom's 640 XL (sadly not all).
    Chintan Gohel likes this.
    05-23-2016 06:00 AM
  5. Krystianpants's Avatar
    There seem to be more issues on non-native devices. Those are devices that are originally 8.1 and moved over to windows 10. MS will keep updating the software and such but I think they are more focused on their new 950/xl devices and their new OEM partner devices. And the way they are killing their phone platform on purpose, they don't mind taking their sweet time with the non-native unit issues.

    Make sure you're also on the latest production preview. If you go to Redstone well... you don't go onto a roller coaster not expecting a roller coaster ride.
    Tien-Lin Chang likes this.
    05-23-2016 10:46 AM
  6. Lord Method Man's Avatar
    that's my summary of w10 as a whole, not only on mobile, it just isn't the same
    Same experiences here. Windows 8.1 and WP 8.1 were both rock solid. Windows 10 gives me a plethora of mostly-small but annoying issues every day.
    mcvmcv, slivy58, Baemir and 3 others like this.
    05-23-2016 10:58 AM
  7. TechFreak1's Avatar
    Why is Windows 10 mobile so bad? It is so unreliable. Used Windows mobile for around a year, and I'm sure it's going to be my last.

    Had Windows 8 on my Lumia for around six months, it seemed fine. Updated to 10 once it came out of beta. I avoided the beta versions as I didn't want the problems, I have better things to do with my time. It still looks like it's in beta.

    The bugs pick the worst possible time to appear, and Microsoft just don't seem to care. Even the Feedback app is bad. I've been trying to give it time to get it's act together but it gets worse.

    I use the phone for calls, texts, emails, calendar, music, skype, weather, notes, and it's all become a bad experience. Cannot believe Microsoft are trying to pass this off as a mobile platform.

    Calls, the dialler is badly designed, bad layout for common actions, dial-pad is slow .
    Texts, how to I display the number I'm texting?
    Emails, cannot reply. Zoom sometimes just blurs screen. App fails to open, needing a restart.
    Calendar, Some new items disappear if I lose a data connection, without warning.
    Music, Mix Radio is gone.
    Skype, Keeps ringing once call answered.
    Weather, the Live Tile just does what it feels like.

    Fed up with it all.
    The quality of some software is terrible. Why bother. Is it that bad a company to work for?
    Windows Mobile is not going to be around for long.
    First and foremost which Lumia do you have?


    1. You can swipe between the three pivot views, depending on your phone the dial pad may appear slow and also it looks like you have done a restore after installing WM10- a WP8 restore on WM10 has been known to cause issues. Why? we can only speculate as pretty much everyone's experience has been different and will be so. Not everyone uses their phone the same way, for instance what you may consider as light usage may be deemed as moderate usage by some. Furthermore not everyone has the exact combination of apps installed.
    2. The numbers have always been displayed at the top, if it's a saved contact then the name will appear at the top.
    3. Update the outlook app
    4. You appear to have sync issues as entries should not disappear when internet connection is gone.
    5. MixRadio was killed of by Line - not an O/S issue.
    6. Try Reinstalling the app
    7. Hard rest and do not restore, or alternative you can use the many free weather apps such as 4castr.
    Last edited by TechFreak1; 05-23-2016 at 03:03 PM.
    05-23-2016 01:24 PM
  8. blackburberry's Avatar
    Why is Windows 10 mobile so bad?
    Something to make iOS look good?
    -Occam's Razor
    Tien-Lin Chang likes this.
    05-23-2016 03:00 PM
  9. slivy58's Avatar
    There seem to be more issues on non-native devices. Those are devices that are originally 8.1 and moved over to windows 10. MS will keep updating the software and such but I think they are more focused on their new 950/xl devices and their new OEM partner devices. And the way they are killing their phone platform on purpose, they don't mind taking their sweet time with the non-native unit issues.

    Make sure you're also on the latest production preview. If you go to Redstone well... you don't go onto a roller coaster not expecting a roller coaster ride.
    Well I think many devices for whatever reason, native or not, just don't take kindly to running W10M, not sure why this is other than pinning it on a poorly written/implemented OS, too many “same/similar” devices having a wide range of problems, or not.
    05-23-2016 05:34 PM
  10. curseoftheninja's Avatar
    Everyone's answer is "factory reset." What a terrible response.

    Any OS that you have to factory rests after every update is an OS which is not ready to be deployed on a phone that initially retailed at $600.

    No wonder WP is below 1%.
    05-23-2016 07:04 PM
  11. KimRM's Avatar
    Everyone's answer is "factory reset." What a terrible response.

    Any OS that you have to factory rests after every update is an OS which is not ready to be deployed on a phone that initially retailed at $600.

    No wonder WP is below 1%.
    While I agree with you that it's terrible, It's the only way to fix it. MS didn't manage to work out the "restore from backup" process from 8.1 devices. That's the sad truth. Seems to mess up a lot of data the OS depends on. Every time I have tried to restore it will just not run well afterwards. And the solution to the problem is to reset and install again without restoring from backup.

    When someone complains about a bad experience after upgrading to Win10, we must provide the solution. Not just say; go buy an android because Windows 10 mobile is crap. That's not a productive response.

    The phone that retailed at $600 was a piece of hardware. The price for the hardware was $600. The OS will be updated free of charge and get better and better over time.
    Chintan Gohel and TgeekB like this.
    05-23-2016 07:43 PM
  12. vader42's Avatar
    There seem to be more issues on non-native devices.
    I think this is the key. MS probably tests only on 950(xl) and other native w10m phones. My 950xl has been pretty bulletproof since the last update. The 3gb of memory helps I think as well. I actually like the fact that the phone behaves the same way as the desktop - but this could be just me. I feel sorry for people who are having a bad experience, when w10m works, it is a great experience.

    Oh, also, use the production OS, not insider - although it is fun, there are bugs.
    05-23-2016 10:09 PM
  13. Maurizio Troso's Avatar
    As wroten before, only X5X serie seems running smooth with Threshold and Redston (except some annoying proximity and light sensors 950 recurring bug)

    Only difference btwn X5X and others is a recent firmware upate.
    Am I right?
    05-24-2016 02:18 AM
  14. mikepalma's Avatar
    No business or app developer cares about 0.7% of users. They focus on the 99% which is appropriate for their business model and responsibility to their shareholders. That's the truth, like it or not.
    broar94, rinosaur and flitchtag like this.
    05-24-2016 02:28 AM
  15. mstabes's Avatar
    Wouldn't say Win10M is bad. I've used it since the first pre-release and it's definitely got a whole lot better with time. And it definitely seems to run better on my 950XL than it does on a 1520. But you still "expect" something weird to happen (at least I do :-) ) - like the screen staying black for 20 seconds, or an app just shutting down for no reason. Which brings me to the real reason I stopped using my 950XL a month ago and reverted to my Galaxy Note 4. The choice of apps (well, the apps I use) is so thin on Win Mobile, and the quality of the available apps also leaves a lot to be desired (but that does seem to be changing for the better, thankfully).
    I can forgive the OS its little eccentricities, but I can't see myself returning to Win Mobile until the app store gets its house in order.
    Chintan Gohel likes this.
    05-24-2016 02:43 AM
  16. anon(9573638)'s Avatar
    Everyone's answer is "factory reset." What a terrible response.

    Any OS that you have to factory rests after every update is an OS which is not ready to be deployed on a phone that initially retailed at $600.

    No wonder WP is below 1%.
    Not to talk down on Android but i have had similar experiences on Android where only a Hard Reset would fix things. So it's not like this thing is W10M exclusive.
    Chintan Gohel and raycpl like this.
    05-24-2016 12:54 PM
  17. Canjok's Avatar
    Because they make unnecessary changes to the OS and deploy new bugs while doing so.
    # sad truth
    05-24-2016 01:02 PM
  18. curseoftheninja's Avatar
    Not to talk down on Android but i have had similar experiences on Android where only a Hard Reset would fix things. So it's not like this thing is W10M exclusive.
    Sure. I'm not saying that other OS's don't have to ever factory reset because of bugs/problems. There is no flawless OS.

    I am saying with every single update to W10 Mobile things went wrong with my ATT 950, and the answer was "Factory Reset."

    That takes a lot of time. You have to re-download apps, music, emails, texts, etc. And you essentially have to do that every 1-2 months.

    I factory reset my ATT Lumia 950 three times since I bought it in November. I was having problems 2 weeks ago with battery drain, and Lumia support said "Factory reset again." For the fourth time. That is 4 times in 6 months. That is completely unacceptable for a "flagship phone."

    One can say "lol go to lagdroid" or "it'll get better" until they are blue in the face, but it is no wonder that people are leaving. Simply look at the Lumia 950 sub-forum on this site. It is almost exclusively people having problems and not enjoying their devices. We are essentially beta testers, yet some of us were duped into buying new phones that are unstable. I shouldn't have to wait a year for my new phone to work.

    There came a point when I said to myself "I shouldn't have to be doing this on a smart phone." I didn't want to jump ship, but I was sick and tired of constant problems.

    If anyone wants to stay with W10 Mobile, then great! Lots of people like being in the nitty-gritty, downloading test builds and searching forums to figure out why the phone isn't working. I don't think that's dumb or a waste of time. Buy the phone you want.

    But that is not me. I came to Windows Phone back with the Lumia 900 because it was a breath of fresh air and ran like a dream. It is neither those things anymore. It was a cause of constant frustration.

    Maybe in a year or 2 it will be where it should be. I will gladly come back then.
    EspHack, libra89, slivy58 and 4 others like this.
    05-24-2016 02:08 PM
  19. Maurizio Troso's Avatar
    That's so curious users with the same phone gor opposite experiences
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    05-25-2016 02:15 AM
  20. Chintan Gohel's Avatar
    That's so curious users with the same phone gor opposite experiences
    it's is as if the software has a naughty line of code that executes havoc if your imei number ends in an odd number but will run smoothly if your imei number ends in an even number.
    05-25-2016 02:52 AM
  21. Andrea988's Avatar
    Really puzzled at some of the comments because I had a 930 and had no issues with it, even after upgrading, and I now have a 950 and until the very latest recent update I haven't had a single issue with it until now.

    The only issue I have now is that if I scale the text to over 100% it scales the text on the browser up to such a large size it's unusable. I'm sure there will be a fix somewhere but apart from that, and not liking the dull-looking new Calendar I've had no problems whatsoever. I didn't even have to do a hard reset.
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    08-27-2016 12:30 PM
  22. EspHack's Avatar
    hard resets are overrated, even my spoofed 928 is running flawlessly on redstone, while I see a bunch of 950 users complaining, whether w10m will perform on X device is a complete gamble at this point, thats the real issue here

    but on the bright side I can say redstone feels like a finished, pretty much consumer-ready OS, at least when compared to threshold 2 that is
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    08-27-2016 01:31 PM
  23. mlbrowninsc's Avatar
    I have the latest release preview build on my 950 and 950 xl. Both perform quite well. I enjoy using them but will say that my 6s feels like a more polished product. But I Windows 10 mobile does seems to be making improvement. So ill hang in there and see where it goes.

    Sent from mTalk
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    08-27-2016 09:13 PM
  24. Plazma1's Avatar
    Ya - literally cripples my day. I've bought a mid range unlocked android phone and I hate the UI and lack of tiles - but man even without google services turned on, I'm not missing calendar events, seeing app crashes and running into all the random restarts that Windows 10 Mobile has brought upon us.
    08-28-2016 04:17 PM
  25. Nate Silver's Avatar
    I think they laid off all the Nokia folks, and now nobody really knows how these phones work. Feels like its been two steps forward and one step back for a while now. Is it better? Yes. Is it as stable as IOS or Android? No. That's just been my experience (well, not with IOS, I've never used it) but I never have to fiddle around this much with my Android phones, and I can't remember the last time I had a crash or freeze. Can't say the same for my Icon. But in spite of it all, I find myself repeatedly going back to the Icon. I just love that phone, and much prefer the windows phone UI. Just wish they could get it so it 'just works'.
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    08-28-2016 06:24 PM
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