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10-17-2016 06:08 AM
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  1. zimilaci's Avatar
    Hey Guys,

    any news regarding the Surround recording feature?
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    MODERATOR'S NOTE: This was originally in the 950 XL section and is referring to that model.
    Last edited by xandros9; 07-19-2016 at 09:50 AM.
    05-27-2016 06:51 AM
  2. luisem1789's Avatar
    i can notice, by default, when you record video, 4 mics works, but i dont know if is a surround, sounds really great.
    05-27-2016 08:26 AM
  3. zimilaci's Avatar
    Sure, I know what you mean, I see... sorry hear that as well, but it is only stereo, but not 5.1 ......
    05-29-2016 03:56 PM
  4. zimilaci's Avatar
    Hi There,

    after a few months I still using my 950XL and really hoping for a surround 5.1 recording....as it was before with other lumia devices....

    I have no clue if theres any sign of that implementation, or will be ever implemented at all??

    Or is there a chance to downgrade to denim where the 5.1 was default?
    07-19-2016 09:00 AM
  5. xandros9's Avatar
    I've merged this with your previous thread and moved it to W10M to be more general. Please bump older threads rather than creating a new one each time you with to open up discussion again.

    Anyways, I have no idea whether Microsoft will get around to anything. I suspect the mobile division lacks resources and is doing its best to divvy it up among the most urgent things. No clue if it'll ever happen.

    And you cannot downgrade the 950 XL to an OS it never shipped with.
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    07-19-2016 09:53 AM
  6. mtf1380's Avatar
    Hi There,

    after a few months I still using my 950XL and really hoping for a surround 5.1 recording....as it was before with other lumia devices....

    I have no clue if theres any sign of that implementation, or will be ever implemented at all??
    The next possibility is with the, soon to be released, Firmware update; if it doesn't show then...there's no telling.
    07-19-2016 10:12 AM
  7. EspHack's Avatar
    for people that manage to get the lumia camera 5 app on their icon-930-1520 running TH2 or RS1, 5.1 sound works just fine, as well as bass filter, so you better look in that direction, somehow get that lumia cam 5 app installed on your 950

    other than that you can look into upgrading to a 8.1 phone to get 5.1 sound :P
    07-19-2016 03:00 PM
  8. zimilaci's Avatar
    Hi There, thanks.... is there no new fast ring builds?
    07-20-2016 12:33 PM
  9. zimilaci's Avatar
    Upgrading you mean downgrading? :D well its something :) I try this lumia camera 5 app :) thanks
    07-20-2016 12:34 PM
  10. mtf1380's Avatar
    Hi There, thanks.... is there no new fast ring builds?
    Last fast ring build was Monday, 18-Jul: OS: 14393

    Also, new Firmware (01078.00053.16236.35005) is available is some regions; but unfortunately it is reported to NOT have 5.1 surround sound;(
    07-20-2016 01:15 PM
  11. zimilaci's Avatar
    why do you think...should I wait for the official release on 2nd august.... or just go with the fast ring?
    07-20-2016 02:44 PM
  12. xandros9's Avatar
    I don't think you'll have issues, but don't come screaming at me if there are. :)
    07-20-2016 03:14 PM
  13. EspHack's Avatar
    Originally posted by zimilaci
    why do you think...should I wait for the official release on 2nd august.... or just go with the fast ring?
    wait a month after 2nd august, some cumulative updates surely needed before non-insiders can use it
    07-20-2016 03:16 PM
  14. mtf1380's Avatar
    why do you think...should I wait for the official release on 2nd august.... or just go with the fast ring?
    go for it.
    07-20-2016 03:16 PM
  15. PGrey's Avatar
    What's the use-case for 5.1 recording, I'm just curious?
    How do you connect all the microphones, or is having 5 mics concentrated in a 5-inch space really effective?

    I'm not try to challenge the viability, I'm actually really interested in how this works, in "real world" use.
    EspHack likes this.
    07-20-2016 03:20 PM
  16. EspHack's Avatar
    Originally posted by PGrey
    What's the use-case for 5.1 recording, I'm just curious?
    How do you connect all the microphones, or is having 5 mics concentrated in a 5-inch space really effective?
    the phones have 4 HAAC mics positioned strategically, size doesnt matter in this end of the process, the use case is having incredible sound fidelity and positioning while playback if you have the 5.1 or even 4.0 speakers, also the bitrate was so high you can outperform pretty much any audio recording from this year latest phones, even a dedicated solution like a gopro camera sounds terrible in comparison
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    07-20-2016 03:23 PM
  17. PGrey's Avatar
    Interesting. I guess I figured you had to have the mics spread out, like a playback scenario for 5.1 (at least this makes the perception of "sound movement" relative to video better, IME).
    I'm really curious now, I'm going to look around for a diagram and/or physics explanation, cool stuff.
    07-20-2016 03:30 PM
  18. zimilaci's Avatar
    you can find sample files on the internet with 5.1 audio.

    like here : http://forums.windowscentral.com/nok...-surround.html
    07-21-2016 02:52 AM
  19. Maurizio Troso's Avatar
    Interesting. I guess I figured you had to have the mics spread out, like a playback scenario for 5.1 (at least this makes the perception of "sound movement" relative to video better, IME).
    I'm really curious now, I'm going to look around for a diagram and/or physics explanation, cool stuff.
    Usually is a firmware / software emulation, like the 3D audio apps for desktop, which start by a ambience stereo or triple mic array, and using filters and algorythms .

    Guess only iPhones and Galaxyes uses 4 mics till now
    07-21-2016 02:58 AM
  20. hazqeel's Avatar
    on my lumia 930 with windows phone 8.1 bitrate was 640 now with windows 10 mobile it is only 192wp_ss_20161007_0001.jpg

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    Last edited by xandros9; 10-07-2016 at 12:37 PM.
    10-07-2016 06:17 AM
  21. daimv's Avatar
    Interesting, though 5.1 does not necessarily equal better quality than stereo. If you truly record in 5.1 and you have a 5.1 speaker setup, then you could get some cool 3D audio. But, probably not from just the phone, it doesn't have a 5.1 output and I don't know if bluetooth audio supports 5.1. Maybe with a USB DAC. But from a PC with the appropiate connections sure. But 3D audio and audio quality isn't the same. And maybe stereo recording does use the different microphones for noise filtering etc so if it foes that's cool and helps with quality. though as I said in that other thread, the 5.1 microphones I've seen are quite expensive and much bigger than a cellphone.
    Maurizio Troso likes this.
    10-07-2016 08:22 AM
  22. Joshua Jackson's Avatar
    What's the use-case for 5.1 recording, I'm just curious?

    Concert videos!!!
    Feel like you're in the crowd.
    2160p video and surround sound (probably 4 channel instead of 5).
    JJ
    10-16-2016 06:45 PM
  23. AuraTigital's Avatar
    To be honest, I think they should work on Dolby Atmos instead(Used by some films and recently in a game called Overwatch), which creates binaural audio for stereo output. Sounds extremely good. With current hardware I'd say it might be possible as this is software processed.
    10-16-2016 11:26 PM
  24. AndyCalling's Avatar
    Not much point in Atmos because few people have a PC sound chip that can decode it. You'd need an external home theatre system connected. Also, best reason to use Atmos it for over 5.1 channels and the phones just don't have the mics for that. A couple of other points to note, Atmos would require a licence payment for each user so would likely be a paid upgrade whereas (at least, for the 930/1520) we have already bought a Dolby Digital licence with the phone. May be a charge for 950 owners if MS did not include the licence with the original W10. Also, to address an earlier comment, WM10 does still include Dolby Headphone surround which reads the 5.1 track rather than just Prologic but of course this will use a 3D system to produce the sound. Remember though, 3D surround in headphones coming from a true 5.1 sound source sounds just as good as discrete speakers. The wave pattern produced is the same.
    10-17-2016 05:41 AM
  25. AndyCalling's Avatar
    Additional: I just don't understand why they don't make it easy to get the previous camera app on these phones whilst they think about getting the new one working properly. What's the reason? Do they just want to peeve as many customers as they can manage? I can't see the benefit for MS in restricting us like this. At this rate, W11 will be out before they get around to fixing things.
    10-17-2016 05:45 AM
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