06-03-2016 10:51 AM
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  1. Marconis4's Avatar
    I'm just going to leave this here as it pretty much applies.

    http://forums.windowscentral.com/win...ml#post3464520
    Does it, though? Shouldn't these be "stable" builds? I also wanted to see if anyone noticed a degradation with every single build, which clearly many have.


    Production
    Stop receiving pre-release builds and go back to production, official, release builds only.
    05-31-2016 03:30 PM
  2. TechJunkie81's Avatar
    Currently updating my Lumia 920 to 10.0.10586.338. See how this one goes.
    05-31-2016 04:17 PM
  3. speccy's Avatar
    Does it, though? Shouldn't these be "stable" builds? I also wanted to see if anyone noticed a degradation with every single build, which clearly many have.


    Production
    Stop receiving pre-release builds and go back to production, official, release builds only.
    As the OP says, the original question is still relevant, and even more so now that many other have had the same experience.
    xandros9 likes this.
    05-31-2016 04:37 PM
  4. Panos Athanasiou's Avatar
    i believe this build had some huge impacts on performance for some devices on redstone :/ my only problem is the battery drain that occured at these 2 latest builds. everything else works great on lumia 535
    05-31-2016 05:04 PM
  5. Panos Athanasiou's Avatar
    Well insiders wanted more frequent builds and MS said this will lead to you having more bugs but on the poll insiders said yes we dont care!
    Muessig, aXross and Jeddic like this.
    05-31-2016 05:08 PM
  6. Marconis4's Avatar
    Currently updating my Lumia 920 to 10.0.10586.338. See how this one goes.
    Mine is sitting up on my charger installing. I'm praying it doesn't break Gadgets again because I was so stoked having my DT-903 finally work.
    05-31-2016 08:13 PM
  7. Jeddic's Avatar
    You're using INSIDER builds. These are used by people who sign up to test unreleased software. You will encounter bugs and not everything will work. Some builds will just outright suck and they will all have known and unknown issues. If you want a better experience, try using a production OS.
    06-01-2016 07:49 AM
  8. RAJWindows's Avatar
    Yeah!! Right, I think within 6 months android phone gets a small or big update which leads to restart which helps in cleaning the unnecessary cache and some play services memory which makes phone faster!!!
    06-01-2016 08:28 AM
  9. RAJWindows's Avatar
    How many of them are task killers or cache cleaners??!!!!
    06-01-2016 08:31 AM
  10. Marconis4's Avatar
    You're using INSIDER builds. These are used by people who sign up to test unreleased software. You will encounter bugs and not everything will work. Some builds will just outright suck and they will all have known and unknown issues. If you want a better experience, try using a production OS.
    Last time I checked, .318 was a PUBLIC release. I'm tired of being reminded about insider builds. You're missing my point --- I'm saying that I've noticed a degradation of a particular build after a few weeks, on stable PUBLIC RELEASES. This to me seems like a huge problem, as if the OS is not capable of maintaining its quality as time goes on. Many people probably don't notice this because a new build is released every few weeks.
    xandros9, justonlumia and tgp like this.
    06-01-2016 08:31 AM
  11. sheldon cohn's Avatar
    I know I'm testing builds, that isn't the problem, I'm seeing new builds be pushed and not receiving them on my BLU phone, where my 950 XL is receiving them. The 950 XL has received 2 new builds already that the BLU phone didn't receive. I had to reset the BLU phone twice, because of problems already, and would like to get a new build to see if the problems were fixed. I have several test phones, I understand that the Nokia 52 isn't being updated from 10586.318, since it has 512 MB ram, but the BLU phone has the 1 GB ram and I have 32 GB SD card installed so it should be getting the new builds.
    06-01-2016 08:34 AM
  12. SvenJ's Avatar
    There seems to be a lot of confusion on insider and public/production builds. 10586.316 is, or should be, a stable consumer release that has nothing to do with the insider program. That is what my AT&T branded and locked 950 is on. Works fine BTW. My 950XL, on the latest bleeding edge insider build does have some issues.
    I'm not aware of any timeouts on the insider builds and there certainly shouldn't be any such thing on a production build. PCs, large or small* will always exhibit degredation over time, but not in the short periods we are talking about here. I would lean towards some other issue, physical corruption of memory, maybe some odd application.
    *Normally not thought of that way, but phones are about as Personal a Computer as you can get these days.
    06-01-2016 08:40 AM
  13. Ben Wolgus's Avatar
    As a Microsoft fan I have to say that I am angry about what they have done on the mobile front.There was a time when Apple computers were essentially dead in the water but they kept plugging away for years until they built momentum. With Nadella I feel like they just abandoned the most fervent Microsoft fans. Since the Lumia 1020 I have been waiting to be wowed by a windows phone and each time I get my hopes up I am left let down. Now to have Microsoft themselves basically torpedo the platform, I have to say against all logic I feel betrayed, I invested so much time and emotion into this platform and nothing. Satya is a real disappointment on the mobile front.
    xandros9 likes this.
    06-01-2016 09:23 AM
  14. jaykin's Avatar
    I posted this comment as a contest entry
    06-01-2016 09:49 AM
  15. MorganRW's Avatar
    I too experience this. Not sure if it is the OS or apps that get upgraded that degrade things overtime. I am performing 3-4 reboots a day for silly things like keyboard not appearing when tapping in a text field, keyboard covering the text field in messaging, lock ups, etc. I know I am testing unproven software so I expect glitches but it really seems that M is struggling to find their way especially with Skype. First it is in messaging then it isn't. Now it is in phone. Just make it work like Facetime and call it a day.
    06-01-2016 10:42 AM
  16. 1994Supra's Avatar
    I can say this. Skype has a shelf life. It works for so long, then it's just broken. It's actually

    Right now, attaching a picture crashes Skype to the home screen. Sometimes the front facing camera works, sometimes it's grayed out. Lumia 950xl latest build in Fast ring. It's almost annoying enough to switch phones completely. I'm thinking about it and I've had Windows Phone's since the Cingular 8125. Yes, it's that bad.
    06-01-2016 11:13 AM
  17. spicypadthai's Avatar
    I can say this. Skype has a shelf life. It works for so long, then it's just broken. It's actually

    Right now, attaching a picture crashes Skype to the home screen. Sometimes the front facing camera works, sometimes it's grayed out. Lumia 950xl latest build in Fast ring. It's almost annoying enough to switch phones completely. I'm thinking about it and I've had Windows Phone's since the Cingular 8125. Yes, it's that bad.
    Or you could revert back to the stable official build or a maybe slightly less stable but very good Insider release build. Making a decision based on the Fast ring seems shortsighted, unless you don't understand what you're getting with those builds.
    06-01-2016 11:29 AM
  18. cHaOs667's Avatar
    I can say this. Skype has a shelf life. It works for so long, then it's just broken. It's actually

    Right now, attaching a picture crashes Skype to the home screen. Sometimes the front facing camera works, sometimes it's grayed out. Lumia 950xl latest build in Fast ring. It's almost annoying enough to switch phones completely. I'm thinking about it and I've had Windows Phone's since the Cingular 8125. Yes, it's that bad.
    Sorry but you are trying to use beta software and get annoyed by bugs?

    That's pathetic because it is intended that the fast ring builds contains many bugs and errors. If you receive and use fast ring builds it is expected that you experience those issues and that you report those to Microsoft so that they can fix them until the next build.

    I have a Lumia 930 with fast ring builds for testing purposes but my regular Lumia 950XL only gets the regular releases because it has to work properly all the time...

    ...and I am very very happy with the current state of the regular build for the 950XL.
    06-01-2016 11:54 AM
  19. tgp's Avatar
    I'm tired of being reminded about insider builds.
    I am more or less here as a spectator anymore, since as of yesterday I no longer own a Windows phone. But your statement here is borne of a common reaction in this thread, and even the forum. If a user says they have an issue on a production build, the general advice is to install an insider build, "it fixes those issues." If the user has an issue on an insider build, the advice is to "get back on production. Insider is beta, bugs are inevitable."

    We cannot win! Whether we're on production, insider, fast ring, slow ring, production release, WP8, WP8.1, W10M, WP7, WebOS, iOS, Android, Ford, BMW, Volvo, Airbus, we're doing it wrong!
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    06-01-2016 11:57 AM
  20. rromerof's Avatar
    Disable what? Why should I have to disable anything? It's annoying because I hate using my iPhone but I'm not in the mood to deal with the BS right now.
    Unlike you, after switching from W10m to iOS, I've never been happier with smoothness and speed of the Apple device. After every build/update of apps/OS, I compare the user experience between both platforms, just to find out that W10m keeps delaying a lot to open apps, to retrieve data, to show that data and finally to crash for no reason. Microsoft should fire their developers... oh wait
    xandros9 likes this.
    06-01-2016 12:10 PM
  21. rromerof's Avatar
    Maybe, those of you who have this problem have SD-cards with bad sectors on them. (I had a similar problem on 8.1, then i changed my SD-card, and the issues ceased)
    Or your phones could have bad internal memory sectors (as you use the phone the internal memory fills up and the bad sectors might be blocking the running of apps)
    Or your phones could simply be faulty.
    Or... the Os is not good at all.
    xandros9 likes this.
    06-01-2016 12:12 PM
  22. spicypadthai's Avatar
    I am more or less here as a spectator anymore, since as of yesterday I no longer own a Windows phone. But your statement here is borne of a common reaction in this thread, and even the forum. If a user says they have an issue on a production build, the general advice is to install an insider build, "it fixes those issues." If the user has an issue on an insider build, the advice is to "get back on production. Insider is beta, bugs are inevitable."

    We cannot win! Whether we're on production, insider, fast ring, slow ring, production release, WP8, WP8.1, W10M, WP7, WebOS, iOS, Android, Ford, BMW, Volvo, Airbus, we're doing it wrong!
    Yes, you get it, nice. That's how you troubleshoot and try to fix things. If you've been on the fast ring since day 1 and have a problem, the obvious thing to try is production. Same if you've been on production and have something you can't live with. If all options fail, then you have a decision to make.
    06-01-2016 01:15 PM
  23. wgs84's Avatar
    You're using INSIDER builds. These are used by people who sign up to test unreleased software. You will encounter bugs and not everything will work. Some builds will just outright suck and they will all have known and unknown issues. If you want a better experience, try using a production OS.
    Is he though? I thought the OP was talking about .318. I'm pretty sure that version is a public release.
    xandros9 likes this.
    06-01-2016 08:08 PM
  24. bozza72's Avatar
    Im with you %100 2 to 3 weeks tops then it all starts going pete tong apps freezing or just plain not opening
    06-02-2016 01:54 AM
  25. anon(3463402)'s Avatar
    14356 was released today and it works like a charm on my L640, except outlook live tiles are dead. I hope it will last longer this time.
    06-02-2016 05:17 AM
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