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  1. TgeekB's Avatar
    I repeat: the 650 is better in every way than the 640. here's a very good comparison:
    Microsoft Lumia 640 vs Lumia 650 comparison: is it worth the upgrade? [Update]

    it depends on your country how much the price gap between the 640 and the 650 is. in my country the 650 is only slightly more expensive so I personally would go with the 650.
    if you are curious about Android then get a Nexus ;)
    Not totally convincing but a personal choice.
    05-31-2016 07:25 PM
  2. greedo_greedy's Avatar
    I think the Lumia 640 is still a good buy. It runs Windows 10 Mobile decently and should see future updates.
    truefluke and PantherBlitz like this.
    05-31-2016 07:43 PM
  3. Eileen Boyle's Avatar
    nothing beats the 64- at $30 from A&TT and free to unlock. best deal around and a great phone, even now
    truefluke likes this.
    05-31-2016 07:56 PM
  4. truefluke's Avatar
    I'm running WM10 via Insider program on production ring on L640, I'm quite satisfied with it. :)
    05-31-2016 09:32 PM
  5. Genghis7777's Avatar
    Google is focused on consumers. Microsoft is focused on business.
    Funny, I had to work with a few parents on a charity project. None of them could figure out how to use Google drive and they opted for One Drive and MS Office online!
    ananve and PantherBlitz like this.
    06-01-2016 04:56 AM
  6. Maurizio Troso's Avatar
    nothing beats the 64- at $30 from A&TT and free to unlock. best deal around and a great phone, even now
    Don't forget 80% Lumia customers are out of U.S., where phones are paid full price or bundled with montly-fee carrier.
    And exporting one buyed in U.S. costs much in shipping and customs
    06-01-2016 05:00 AM
  7. Gregory Newman's Avatar
    I would suggest to a person to buy a Lumia 650 because the 650 already has the new windows 10 updates and will get the big Redstone anniversary update coming out in July or August 2016. the lumia 640 will get the update to Windows 10 in the future but is now a windows 8.1 denim smart phone which is a stable OS.
    06-01-2016 10:47 AM
  8. rromerof's Avatar
    I would have said buy the 640 a few weeks ago, but now I am getting tired of things not working, bugs, and also the apparent lack of long-term commitment from Microsoft. You can count on Google sticking with Android in the long run, and you also tie in to the entire Google ecosystem of services that are very useful, particularly for consumers: Gmail, Drive, Photos, Hangouts/other messaging, Chrome OS, etc. Soon you will be able to run Android apps on a Chromebook. Google is focused on consumers. Microsoft is focused on business.
    Microsoft don't even know in what they are focused!
    06-01-2016 12:25 PM
  9. aimulaidni's Avatar
    Based on the comment you made that you want to stick with the platform because you have been using it for 2 years, I would say go for the 640 and stay on 8.1. In my view atleast, I don't see WM10 as an upgrade from 8.1. I bought a 640 the other day for my mom (sadly had to return it because of unlocking issues) and after using it for a day, I wanted to throw my 950XL in the bin. And if you can find one from ATT for $30, it would fit your budget too.
    Greg Wenzler likes this.
    06-01-2016 12:36 PM
  10. Sedp23's Avatar
    650 isn't worth $200. 640 is always a good backup to have

    Sent from mTalk
    06-01-2016 12:43 PM
  11. mary beth hale's Avatar
    Running Redstone. 1004 on my $30 640. Battery issues gone for me on this build. Everything working OK.
    TgeekB likes this.
    06-01-2016 02:40 PM
  12. Alierna's Avatar
    650's performance is way better. i own both. (actually xl model). 650 is so smooth in games. that extra 400 mhz is really helping os
    bhaspence and Maurizio Troso like this.
    06-01-2016 04:18 PM
  13. jrb363's Avatar
    I have a Lumia 640 that I bought in order to try out Windows Mobile a while back. I loved it so much that I recently upgraded to the Lumia 950XL which is, by far, the best phone I've ever owned.

    If you can find a 640 on sale it's easily worth the investment!
    06-01-2016 09:20 PM
  14. mayconvert's Avatar
    for $29, the 640 is a great phone. I would buy a New $119 Moto E or G first. at least you will have Apps and a Warranty.
    The 640 is SLOW, camera is pretty bad, battery life is terrible (3 hours SOT will kill it) and likely will never see windows 10.
    and if it did get 10, it will run even slower.
    Android is a better way to go.
    06-01-2016 11:28 PM
  15. milkyway's Avatar
    for $29, the 640 is a great phone. I would buy a New $119 Moto E or G first. at least you will have Apps and a Warranty.
    The 640 is SLOW, camera is pretty bad, battery life is terrible (3 hours SOT will kill it) and likely will never see windows 10.
    and if it did get 10, it will run even slower.
    Android is a better way to go.
    there is some serious FUD there.
    • the 640 already has the W10 update
    • the Camera is - for the price of this phone - STUNNING
    • the battery life on the 640 is amazing (at least on WP 8.1)
    06-02-2016 01:04 AM
  16. Guytronic's Avatar
    @ the OP (if you are still looking at this thread)

    Actually if I were making the choice today I'd go with the native Win10 mobile device.
    The 650 looks like a winner to me so far.

    The good deals on the 640 seemed to be limited to the US anyway (bought 2 of them for friends needing phones).
    I'd say go with the last Lumia.
    Maurizio Troso and libra89 like this.
    06-02-2016 01:59 AM
  17. Sedp23's Avatar
    for $29, the 640 is a great phone. I would buy a New $119 Moto E or G first. at least you will have Apps and a Warranty.
    The 640 is SLOW, camera is pretty bad, battery life is terrible (3 hours SOT will kill it) and likely will never see windows 10.
    and if it did get 10, it will run even slower.
    Android is a better way to go.

    Not true at all. For the price its fine. It's not going to be as fast as a flagship phone but it isn't shore at all. The camera is great for a $30 phone. Takes great pictures in daylight. Battery is great much better than the 650. This was one of the first phones that was win 10 ready.

    Sent from mTalk
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    06-02-2016 05:09 AM
  18. Maurizio Troso's Avatar
    Not true at all. For the price its fine. It's not going to be as fast as a flagship phone but it isn't shore at all. The camera is great for a $30 phone. Takes great pictures in daylight. Battery is great much better than the 650.

    Sent from mTalk
    False. Lumia 650's SD212 drains the half of 640's SD400.
    A whole intensive workday in Redstone for me
    06-02-2016 05:35 AM
  19. anon(3463402)'s Avatar
    for $29, the 640 is a great phone. I would buy a New $119 Moto E or G first. at least you will have Apps and a Warranty.
    The 640 is SLOW, camera is pretty bad, battery life is terrible (3 hours SOT will kill it) and likely will never see windows 10.
    and if it did get 10, it will run even slower.
    Android is a better way to go.
    You are joking, right?

    I won't even try to explain what's wrong in your post.

    Anyone wondering if L640 is a good phone, believe me it's beautiful device. It's nice, it's fast, good camera, good battery, supported, cheap... if that's what you need from your phone, just buy it, you'll no regret.

    Or if you want device which will never receive any update, which will give you possibility to download millions (unneeded) apps, if you choose quantity over quality, and if you want your phone look like toy, then go with android.
    Baron164 likes this.
    06-02-2016 06:29 AM
  20. baddog2's Avatar
    You are right.
    L640 LTE is very good, fast , good battery (online all day, 24/24h). Net fast, work very well with office and cloud. I have this phone from 1 year, it's cool.
    06-02-2016 07:04 AM
  21. Baron164's Avatar
    I've had a 640 running Win10 for over 6 months and it's been a very solid phone for me. My wife broke her older Lumia and we replaced her phone with a 640 as well. It's very responsive, battery lasts all day easily and I have no issues with the Camera. It's a $30 phone at this point in most places so you are not going to get top tier hardware but if you want a smart phone running Windows 10 and your on a budget it's a great phone and I'd highly recommend it. My original intent was to use the 640 temporarily while I saved up for a 950 but I found that the 640 was filling all my needs so I never felt the need to upgrade.
    anon(3463402) likes this.
    06-02-2016 08:51 AM
  22. whereismydamnphone's Avatar
    there is some serious FUD there.
    • the 640 already has the W10 update
    • the Camera is - for the price of this phone - STUNNING
    • the battery life on the 640 is amazing (at least on WP 8.1)
    Battery Life is also good on W10, i took my l640 off the charger monday 7:00pm, it's now thursday 11:37am and it still has 30% charge left.

    False. Lumia 650's SD212 drains the half of 640's SD400.
    A whole intensive workday in Redstone for me
    It might be true, it still not on par with the l640 though.

    l650 battery test: http://cdn.gsmarena.com/imgroot/revi...marena_001.jpg
    l640 battery test: http://cdn.gsmarena.com/vv/reviewsim...marena_001.jpg
    anon(3463402), Sedp23 and libra89 like this.
    06-02-2016 09:38 AM
  23. Maurizio Troso's Avatar
    Battery Life is also good on W10, i took my l640 off the charger monday 7:00pm, it's now thursday 11:37am and it still has 30% charge left.



    It might be true, it still not on par with the l640 though.

    l650 battery test: http://cdn.gsmarena.com/imgroot/revi...marena_001.jpg
    l640 battery test: http://cdn.gsmarena.com/vv/reviewsim...marena_001.jpg
    That'ld be nice same test with last released 650 firmware :)
    06-02-2016 10:10 AM
  24. oviedofreak82's Avatar
    for $29, the 640 is a great phone. I would buy a New $119 Moto E or G first. at least you will have Apps and a Warranty.
    The 640 is SLOW, camera is pretty bad, battery life is terrible (3 hours SOT will kill it) and likely will never see windows 10.
    and if it did get 10, it will run even slower.
    Android is a better way to go.
    I am going to have to disagree with you there. My wife has the 640 & it runs buttery smooth and fast. My 640 XL is equally fast. My 635 is on 10586.338 & the battery life is superb and it runs almost as fast as my 640 XL and it's a 512 MB phone.
    libra89 likes this.
    06-02-2016 10:28 AM
  25. fx747's Avatar
    I just got ad email from Microsoft - "Try now - the latest Outlook for Android‏". This Outlook for Android has new features, mine on W10M not.

    It looks like a clear message.

    I planned to upgrade from 830 to 950XL, but messages like that really put into question this whole idea with staying on W10M. What for? To be a second class customer?
    06-02-2016 10:47 AM
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