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  1. PGrey's Avatar
    But why, I have Lumia 950 since December (build 24 (I think)), and I never did hard reset. I'm really curious what are you doing to yours phones.
    I wonder about these too. I guess if I was on Inside Ring, I might be doing more resets (I used to work on the Win OS, and had to do this more frequently). As it stands, I've been on Release Preview for months, and haven't had to reset my 950XL...
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    06-15-2016 12:33 PM
  2. worldspy99's Avatar
    My device refuses to connect to Wi-Fi at work, says no Internet access, while my iPad, Nexus 5, Nexus 9 are all connected to the same network without any issues. I am going to check it soon with my SP3 and see what is going on.
    06-15-2016 04:22 PM
  3. jdballard's Avatar
    Not the first time, and doing a hard reset after every update is a shame to MS.
    I haven't had to do a hard reset on my 950XL and I've put .318, .338 and .420 on it with no issues. Same for my 640 which has installed the last three redstone builds. So it doesn't happen to everyone.
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    06-15-2016 04:23 PM
  4. CaptainLumia's Avatar
    My phone will no longer check for updates. After I install an update, I always 'check for updates' again to ensure my update was installed correctly. When I tap 'check for updates' my phone freezes for a minute, then reverts back to my homescreen, awesome.
    Chintan Gohel likes this.
    06-15-2016 04:30 PM
  5. Chintan Gohel's Avatar
    Not the first time, and doing a hard reset after every update is a shame to MS. I cant keep exhausting my Data plan to updates apps after every reset. In btw I don't have access to wifi in my location.
    You don't need to do a hard reset after every cumulative update. You only try a hard reset if you have major issues that haven't been sorted out with cumulative OS updates or app updates.
    RumoredNow likes this.
    06-15-2016 11:33 PM
  6. Chintan Gohel's Avatar
    I never had any problems before with the official 10586.XXX builds..
    but, right after updating to build 10586.420. here is my experience...-->
    first of all the most important. [BATTERY]
    overnight , it used to discharge 2-3% , but since yesterday it is discharging like 7-10% per hour without even using it. on standby.
    in morning I found 24% battery remaining , which was 58% , 6 hours before.
    I did a soft reset, only to find half of my start screen tiles blank.
    did a soft reset again....now the start screen was fine as before, but battery problem still persist.
    please anyone , if having this problem or any solution then you are welcome to share your thoughts.
    L640 XL DS
    check through this list

    A few things you can try out:
    1. Check settings >system > battery > which apps are using the most energy?
    2. Again, in battery section, which apps can run in the background? Can you disable those you don't need? Keep messaging enabled to run in background
    3. In battery section, you can also set up battery saver to kick in when the battery reaches a certain percentage. I keep mine on 100% so it's always on battery saver mode
    4. In mail app, how often do you have mails to sync? Generally the longer the time period, the less the battery usage
    5. What about brightness settings? Is it on high or auto? Auto is better than a fixed setting
    6. If you find that messaging app uses a lot of battery, this could be because it's linked with skype. Go to messaging app, settings and unlink skype
    7. In photos app, do you have auto upload of photos enabled? If yes, try to not upload high res photos and videos unless you are charging the phone and on wifi
    8. When you use some apps that are not data heavy like whatsapp or mail, you can use a lower network speed like 2G. It's what I do usually. I only use LTE when I have to use 6tag
    9. If you're using edge for basic browsing, you could try using UC browser. Not only does it use less data but you can also disable images which means you save even more on data. The less data your phone has to receive, the less the energy used
    10. In settings > privacy - check each of those settings to see which apps can use what. For example I can't understand why Word would need to access location info so I disabled that. There might be apps using services that they are not meant to use
    11. Finally, keep wifi/cellular off when you don't need to have them on. The toggles in action centre are pretty fast so it doesn't take much time in switching internet on/off
    12. Disable auto update of apps, you only update when you are ready and not when you are in need of critical things




    Hope this helps you
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    06-15-2016 11:34 PM
  7. Chintan Gohel's Avatar
    My phone will no longer check for updates. After I install an update, I always 'check for updates' again to ensure my update was installed correctly. When I tap 'check for updates' my phone freezes for a minute, then reverts back to my homescreen, awesome.
    give it some time to settle down and then try checking again.
    You can also do a soft reset if it still fails
    06-15-2016 11:35 PM
  8. Akhil_007's Avatar
    Really great information.

    but i've tried everything. from the start i've set
    1. background apps to minimum.
    2. always automatic brightness.
    3. never linked skype with messaging app.
    And it used to be pretty well for the battery, but now after this update nothing is helping.

    really missing the old build.
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    06-16-2016 01:13 AM
  9. PGrey's Avatar
    Really great information.

    but i've tried everything. from the start i've set
    1. background apps to minimum.
    2. always automatic brightness.
    3. never linked skype with messaging app.
    And it used to be pretty well for the battery, but now after this update nothing is helping.

    really missing the old build.
    What does the battery usage say are the primary apps using power?

    I ask, not because the app seems to be super-accurate, but you seem to be running out of options, and it does seem to list "large offenders" so hopefully it's a next good step, maybe there's something obvious there (if you haven't already looked).
    Last edited by PGrey; 06-16-2016 at 01:33 AM.
    06-16-2016 01:21 AM
  10. Akhil_007's Avatar
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    for last 24 hour
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    last 48 hours
    everything seems to be normal here.
    i think the problem lies in system processes
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    look at the graph and stats..
    how fast battery is draining overnight. during standby.

    fully charged at night.
    when i woke up..around 40%
    :(
    06-16-2016 01:59 AM
  11. ZeMintCool's Avatar
    I'm experiencing the same thing as Ma Rio on L1520 yet not issues with L925 but with same settings despite several soft & hard resets sometimes without restoring. The L925 is older than the L1520 so I want to doubt it could be the battery?
    Alierna and Jefe32 like this.
    06-16-2016 02:49 AM
  12. Daniel Gilbert M's Avatar
    Battery life has improved significantly for my 640 XL.
    Getting closer and closer to 8.1 performance after each update.

    What happened with the HDR function is that they have reduced the saving time. Still if you try to adjust HDR settings quickly after the photo has been taken, you will get error.
    Have to wait at least 10 seconds before attempting to edit.
    This is only for HDR without flash.
    HDR with flash saves faster.
    Post process a.k.a "Adding finishing touches" is the culprit.
    The code needs to be processed faster.

    Camera needs major update. The camera app is still not at par with Lumia Camera.
    Otherwise, system is buttery smooth. No complaints.
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    06-16-2016 03:52 AM
  13. Vivien R's Avatar
    First thing I noticed, that Cortana lost its interest to talk. I gave my usual question and she only replied: here you are, and opened the app, instead of reading out loudly...
    06-16-2016 04:08 AM
  14. Chintan Gohel's Avatar
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    for last 24 hour

    look at the graph and stats..
    how fast battery is draining overnight. during standby.

    fully charged at night.
    when i woke up..around 40%
    :(
    since upgrading to windows 10, have you ever done a hard reset at any point?
    Alierna likes this.
    06-16-2016 04:11 AM
  15. Alierna's Avatar
    my battery actually feels better. i think you need to change your battery. it's almost dead. it's not OS related.


    to that friend with battery problem. ( i forgot to reply to him).
    my battery actually feels better. i think you need to change your battery. it's almost dead. it's not OS related


    i think your problem is battery related. maybe it needs to change. my 640XL is about 20% better than previous build.
    Last edited by RumoredNow; 06-16-2016 at 11:08 AM. Reason: consolidate 3 consecutive posts addressing the same point
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    06-16-2016 05:48 AM
  16. chinni subhash's Avatar
    Lumia 950 XL on official .420 build. ALmost no issues. Battery is better. I am happy with it.
    06-16-2016 08:03 AM
  17. mikepalma's Avatar
    Lumia 950 XL on official .420 build. ALmost no issues. Battery is better. I am happy with it.
    Please take a photo Camera app and click the photo in upper right. Causes mine to turn screen off...
    06-16-2016 08:16 AM
  18. p51mustang's Avatar
    Please take a photo Camera app and click the photo in upper right. Causes mine to turn screen off...
    No problems on my L950.
    06-16-2016 08:30 AM
  19. x I'm tc's Avatar
    There are major issues with WiFi in Windows 10. My 950 also has serious problems with my work, but not my home, WiFi.

    That said, every W10 device I've used, phone, laptop or tablet or desktop (made by MS, HP, Lenovo, or custom job) all have weird WiFi problems. The same devices, running W8/1 or 7, work perfectly. I think maybe there's just something wrong with WiFi in 10. What's crazy is that no two devices have the exact same set of issues, but I also have no W10 devices that have perfectly smoothly working WiFi, out of like a dozen of them...including Surfaces.
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    06-16-2016 08:46 AM
  20. mikepalma's Avatar
    No problems on my L950.
    I am starting to wonder if I have a bum 950xl ...
    06-16-2016 09:29 AM
  21. Akhil_007's Avatar
    no..i did a clean official windows 10 installation on my L640 XL.
    never did a hard reset after that bcz it never needed any..
    battery was superb..
    even got up to 4 days of usage sometimes.
    things changed from this build. why ??
    i have no idea.
    Chintan Gohel likes this.
    06-16-2016 09:51 AM
  22. crg1970's Avatar
    I had very much the same experience with my original L1520. I have a slightly newer L1520 that does not show the same behaviour. The original L1520 went through many of the first Windows 10 mobile builds that really drained the battery heavily (only until Feb or so did my experience with the builds improve in the way of battery life). I believe those builds and the constant draining and charging damaged my battery. The other L1520 had been sitting out of the Win Mobile until recently and the performance of it is much better with this latest builds.

    In the past there were some tricks to try to re-condition a battery, but I think that is no longer applicable to these kind of devices. By the way, on Redstone, both of my L1520s are getting some ghost touching input. I am not sure if it is related to the latest builds. Has anyone seen anything like that?
    06-16-2016 10:06 AM
  23. rkrams's Avatar
    One of the main things that i found stps battery drain is setting feedback to basic and update once a week! its a huge factor! when feedback was full was getting hardly a day with l640. once i changed feedback to basic have been getting 2.5-3 days!
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    06-16-2016 10:57 AM
  24. Jakoh's Avatar
    This Build is looking A-OK on the 950. Lots of use and 24 hour standby, still at 50%.
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    06-16-2016 11:14 AM
  25. Jakoh's Avatar
    One of the main things that i found stps battery drain is setting feedback to basic and update once a week! its a huge factor! when feedback was full was getting hardly a day with l640. once i changed feedback to basic have been getting 2.5-3 days!
    How and where?
    libra89 and Sedp23 like this.
    06-16-2016 11:15 AM
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